Howarth no try

[Cook]

Someone on here suggested Kiraz should not have jumped and challenged the Manly high kicks to the winger....we know now Ivan reads TK

They got lucky imo. Storm instead if catching should of tried bat ons etc. Would of had instant success if did it right. Panther had 5 guys around ball. We got our pants pulled down a few time in year doing same thing. Coates somehow squeezed a kick in for try with 17 players on him

 

[Psycho Doggie]

Howarth didn't get up and celebrate the "try".
It was only when the replay showed it got close to the ground that he showed any interest.
The fact that cokey johns said it was a try confirms it indeed was not.

That guy has the strike rate of blind duck trying to play whack-a-mole. It becomes entertaining listening to nein commentary and picking the opposite of what Johns picks, because he is almost always wrong. It has become such a thing that some of the other comms have been giving him grief over it

 

[Kaz]

Hand



Arm

 

[Haddaway]

People still carrying on like this is a try lol

 

[maroondog72]

Awesome defence from Penrith. That’s why they’ve won four on the Trott.

 

[Haslerhasworms]

That guy has the strike rate of blind duck trying to play whack-a-mole. It becomes entertaining listening to nein commentary and picking the opposite of what Johns picks, because he is almost always wrong. It has become such a thing that some of the other comms have been giving him grief over it

I literally don't know whether to feel sorry for him or just laugh at his "expert commentary"

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Awesome defence from Penrith. That’s why they’ve won four on the Trott.

They won 4 on the trot because of sport washing.

 

[Psycho Doggie]

I literally don't know whether to feel sorry for him or just laugh at his "expert commentary"

It is like some kind of universal constant. The sun will rise in the morning. The tides will go up and down. Whatever Johns says should happen will be the exact opposite of what actually happens.

 

[chisdog]

Of course it was a try. The ball only needs to brush the grass momentarily. The ball carrier maintained possession. It don’t need to sit there visible for 5 minutes touching the ground. Panthers did well to smother the ball carrier to make it look like it was held up.. Cleary was on the ground when he scored and then Jumped in to make it look like a held
Up..

That was more of a try than the el Masri try in the 04 grand (held up and double movement )

it was a try!

I think panthers deserved the win but howarth scored a try.

You gave yourself up as somebody who doesn't know the rules when you mentioned double movement with Haz.

El Masri muscles his way over | NRL.com

So if you watch it again, you will see that Hazem is always moving & scores within a reasonable time frame. The double movement theory I cannot fathom whatsoever. For it to be a double movement, he would have had to have touched the ball down whilst held in the field of play & promoted the ball into the in goal. He was in the in goal with both of his movements, so that one has no basis to it at all..

nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2018.pdf

P15.

 

[Blue_boost]

You gave yourself up as somebody who doesn't know the rules when you mentioned double movement with Haz.

El Masri muscles his way over | NRL.com

So if you watch it again, you will see that Hazem is always moving & scores within a reasonable time frame. The double movement theory I cannot fathom whatsoever. For it to be a double movement, he would have had to have touched the ball down whilst held in the field of play & promoted the ball into the in goal. He was in the in goal with both of his movements, so that one has no basis to it at all..

nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2018.pdf

P15.

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so if a player continues to struggle his momentum isnt stopped? El Masri basically has a another leap after his progress had stopped.. when players are held up of course they are trying to score but their momentum stops.. as el Masri did..

I also said el Masri was a try (as I’m a bulldog) but everyone who is not a bulldog says no way.. I also said the howarth try was more of a try than el Masri

 

[Blue_boost]

You cant do a double movement in the ingoal just from field of play to ingoal

the best thing panthers did was smother howarth so the ref could never see the ball touch the ground.. they all stood in front of him on purpose. Howarth scores and then Cleary jumps on him to smother the view.

it was a try! Ball definitely grazed the ground at some point.. there are photos that prove it.. even if there was a hand under the ball, the ball is bigger than a hand.. any part of the ball touches the ground or even brushes it = TRY!!

 

[Blue_boost]

I was at the 2004 grand final and when el masri jumped over for a second effort I looked at a mate and chuckled.. he was held up but we took it.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I heard a report that said the Bunker vision (that clarified the "No Try") was in 4K and since CH9 was broadcasting in 750p they couldn't show it quick enough. That's why it was shown in 4K to a bunch of journalists and Melbourne staff after the game.


Hello CH9. if you can't (or won't) broadcast games in 4K then give them all to Foxtel, they can and do.


Team First

 

[Brendan7]

Under the rules the right decision was made, do I agree with the rues no. Set up a no try, and every man an his dog can't tell if it was 2 days later so it's at best inconclusive which comes back no try anyway. However I hate this guessing by refs, as if Klein has any idea from where he was and the touch judge had 10 blokes in the way. So basically we have two officials taking a hail mary guess and hoping for the best.

I have been saying for 2 years watch this system rear it's ugly head in a big game, here we are. A ref should have a third alternative to send it up as "I don't know". Reverts back to the old system of benefit of the doubt to the attacker in this situation.

 

[Blue_boost]

Under the rules the right decision was made, do I agree with the rues no. Set up a no try, and every man an his dog can't tell if it was 2 days later so it's at best inconclusive which comes back no try anyway. However I hate this guessing by refs, as if Klein has any idea from where he was and the touch judge had 10 blokes in the way. So basically we have two officials taking a hail mary guess and hoping for the best.

I have been saying for 2 years watch this system rear it's ugly head in a big game, here we are. A ref should have a third alternative to send it up as "I don't know". Reverts back to the old system of benefit of the doubt to the attacker in this situation.

agree that benefit of the doubt should go with the attacker.. he did score and Penrith swarmed in to block view of the ball..

With the el masri try from 04… he was held up.. you could go make a cup of tea come back and then he jumps over to score with a second effort

 

[Brendan7]

agree that benefit of the doubt should go with the attacker.. he did score and Penrith swarmed in to block view of the ball..

With the el masri try from 04… he was held up.. you could go make a cup of tea come back and then he jumps over to score with a second effort

Not all the time, I'm happy for the ref to have 3 options, "Try", "No try", or "I don't know or have an opinion". The third one would be benefit of the doubt to the attacker.

 

[Disposable Hero]

Of course it was a try. The ball only needs to brush the grass momentarily. The ball carrier maintained possession. It don’t need to sit there visible for 5 minutes touching the ground. Panthers did well to smother the ball carrier to make it look like it was held up.. Cleary was on the ground when he scored and then Jumped in to make it look like a held
Up..

That was more of a try than the el Masri try in the 04 grand (held up and double movement )

it was a try!

I think panthers deserved the win but howarth scored a try.

Howarths reaction did not help.
He got up not lookong confident of the try

 

[The_Chimpster]

Yes. They are blinded by their hatred of Penrith and in particular Luai aka The GOAT.

Your avatar looks like a face hugger is ready to latch onto some luscious lady boi

 

[CroydonDog]

I must admit i only half watched the game - what was the initial on-field decision? I think there's not enough to overturn a decision either way.

 

[Kung fu man]

the best thing panthers did was smother howarth so the ref could never see the ball touch the ground.. they all stood in front of him on purpose. Howarth scores and then Cleary jumps on him to smother the view.

it was a try! Ball definitely grazed the ground at some point.. there are photos that prove it.. even if there was a hand under the ball, the ball is bigger than a hand.. any part of the ball touches the ground or even brushes it = TRY!!

The ball under the hand is outdated it was relevant when there was little or no grass now some part of the ball touches hand or not