Howarth no try

Philistine said:
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News.com.au published this picture as "proof" that a try was scored. Somebody's hand is wrapped around the ball. It doesn't matter if it is a Penrith hand or a Melbourne hand - the rest of the hand and the arm to which it is attached had to be under the ball, there is nowhere else it can go! Unless we are looking at a severed hand that doesn't belong to any of the players, it must be preventing the ball from contacting the ground.
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I am hearing there are doctored images going around on social media. This image could be one. I'd have to have another look at the footage but I remember a panthers hand always under the ball
 
Philistine said:
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News.com.au published this picture as "proof" that a try was scored. Somebody's hand is wrapped around the ball. It doesn't matter if it is a Penrith hand or a Melbourne hand - the rest of the hand and the arm to which it is attached had to be under the ball, there is nowhere else it can go! Unless we are looking at a severed hand that doesn't belong to any of the players, it must be preventing the ball from contacting the ground.
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It's always been said "It doesn't have to touch the ground, it just has to contact a blade of grass"... whch it did. My biggest concern is that if it ws against the Dogs they would have awarded it withot a second look. The inconsistancy of the officiating is the downfall of the game.
 
There is only one thing better than watching Melbourne lose a grand final and have a referee decision to complain about, like a penalty try , and that is Manly losing in the last seconds of a grand final they thought the had won.
Munster being exposed to 10 million people as a dirty muncher is the icing on the cake.
Only listened to the last few minutes of commentary to savour Billy Slater's commentary.
Went on mute after a minute. The thought of Slater AND Johns commentating was way too much.
Apparently ch9 dropped Phil Gould because he would be biased. Haha.
 
BELMORE said:
No try. Are there people that actually think it was a try? lol
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Yes. Andrew Johns. Lol for me there was clearly an arm under the ball at all times. That looked pretty obvious to me.
 
ILiveForDib said:
Not trying to cause a stir up just genuinely think it contacted the ground. Irrelavent matter now, more a poor reflection of the state of NRL officiating which as we know has lost consistency and foreseeability.
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Thinking and seeing are fifferent things. It went up no try as well remember.
 
Philistine said:
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News.com.au published this picture as "proof" that a try was scored. Somebody's hand is wrapped around the ball. It doesn't matter if it is a Penrith hand or a Melbourne hand - the rest of the hand and the arm to which it is attached had to be under the ball, there is nowhere else it can go! Unless we are looking at a severed hand that doesn't belong to any of the players, it must be preventing the ball from contacting the ground.
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Ball is still in the air in this photo
 
Novdoggie said:
I am hearing there are doctored images going around on social media. This image could be one. I'd have to have another look at the footage but I remember a panthers hand always under the ball
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No, look at the live video footage
It was 100% a TRY
 
Howarth didn't get up and celebrate the "try".
It was only when the replay showed it got close to the ground that he showed any interest.
The fact that cokey johns said it was a try confirms it indeed was not.
 
Lol at anyone who actually thinks this was a try. There's a Fuckin arm under it the whole time.
 
I'd have been happy with the call either way. Had it have gone up as a TRY it would have been given the benefit of the doubt.

Based on the evidence, we can't 100% say it's a TRY so on-field decision stands.
 
How did he not even score it to start with, but kudos to panthers for stopping it
 
capt obvious said:
How did he not even score it to start with, but kudos to panthers for stopping it
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Looks like he held the ball on a bad angle and sort of limited himself on the point of the ball reaching the in-goal. His own arm limited it. Which is crazy because the line was open when he dived over. Just desperation and execution of the panthers to pile on and make it a no try.
 
Kaz said:
www.foxsports.com.au

‘That’s a tough sell’: Confusion over Bunker controversy as NRL releases new no-try footage

‘That’s a tough sell’: Confusion over Bunker controversy as NRL releases new no-try footage
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au

No try
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“Replays appeared to show Howarth grounding the ball but journalists at the ground were taken into a room by NRL officials to show high definition footage of Howarth not scoring”

..so they took journos into a room to show them HD footage rather than just showing it to all viewers. Ok
 
The replay of this is the entirety of the grand final that I've watched. Looked like there was contact with the ground to me.
 
Chris Harding said:
El Masri's progress was not halted when he scored that try, and the ball and ball carrying arm never touched the ground before he planted the ball in goal. It was a legitimate try.
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most people that are held up don’t have their arm touch the ground.. that’s why they are held up. I say el Masri was a try but so was Howarth. My point is the Howarth try was more a try than el Masri
 
Philistine said:
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News.com.au published this picture as "proof" that a try was scored. Somebody's hand is wrapped around the ball. It doesn't matter if it is a Penrith hand or a Melbourne hand - the rest of the hand and the arm to which it is attached had to be under the ball, there is nowhere else it can go! Unless we are looking at a severed hand that doesn't belong to any of the players, it must be preventing the ball from contacting the ground.
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maybe there was a hand under the ball but the ball still made contact with the grass.. even for a split second… TRY!
 
Blue_boost said:
maybe there was a hand under the ball but the ball still made contact with the grass.. even for a split second… TRY!
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Agreed, the ball literally touched the grass. Process was rushed thought they would’ve spent more time reviewing it .
 
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