Official Hooking Rajab

[Philistine]

O'Neil is not in Rajabs league sorry

O'Neill was captain of the S G Ball team last season. He is still young enough to play Jersey Flegg. How about you let him get a few games under his belt before you write him off?

 

[Natboy]

LOL. If “Khaled Rajab is John Smith he doesn’t get the attention”… if that’s not trying to say if Rajab wasn’t Lebanese then I don’t know what is…

You’ve again twisted what I said. Please read my comment and get back to me

 

[04 Dreaming]

I got abused by half this forum when I declared Rajab as someone not to get excited about before the Knights game lol

 

[Dogs Of War]

I got abused by half this forum when I declared Rajab as someone not to get excited about before the Knights game lol

If Flanno goes, I will say it again, Rajab should bulk up and look to play a hooker role. He has some crafts about him, half decent kicking game. Low risk given the money we would offer him. We will need if the Flanno role off the bench spelling Reed works, someone else to fill that role. It would also be a change of pace cause he plays the game a little different to Reed.

 

[Philistine]

I got abused by half this forum........

I can't believe this. What has TK descended to? Half the forum must be hatters, possibly even pinko commie Stalinists.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Does anyone really think that Ciraldo and Tangata-Toa don't talk everyday about how every NSW Cup player is going?
That Ciraldo, Potter and Tangata-Toa don't review every second of the video of every game in every grade every week?
That Ciraldo, Potter and Tangata-Toa don't attend every NSW Cup, Jersey Flegg, Ron Massey Cup, SG Ball etc game live whenever possible?
That the rest of the high performance team, trainers, physios, dietitians, welfare etc aren't involved in every player discussion?

They know far more about every player than we will ever know.


Always a Bulldog

 

[wendog33]

Does anyone really think that Ciraldo and Tangata-Toa don't talk everyday about how every NSW Cup player is going?
That Ciraldo, Potter and Tangata-Toa don't review every second of the video of every game in every grade every week?
That Ciraldo, Potter and Tangata-Toa don't attend every NSW Cup, Jersey Flegg, Ron Massey Cup, SG Ball etc game live whenever possible?
That the rest of the high performance team, trainers, physios, dietitians, welfare etc aren't involved in every player discussion?

They know far more about every player than we will ever know.


Always a Bulldog

Whats going wrong then lol

 

[TwinTurbo]

Whats going wrong then lol

I'm not sure exactly what the questions is that you are asking Wendy.

If it's about selections then maybe the coaching staff are making exactly the right selections based on their far superior knowledge and that we on here are wrong because our opinions are based on very inferior knowledge.


Always a Bulldog

 

[wendog33]

I'm not sure exactly what the questions is that you are asking Wendy.

If it's about selections then maybe the coaching staff are making exactly the right selections based on their far superior knowledge and that we on here are wrong because our opinions are based on very inferior knowledge.


Always a Bulldog

I'm asking based on results.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Whats going wrong then lol

If your questions is in the overall context of what's going wrong.

Maybe nothing, that the results we are getting are exactly what we should be getting. Maybe where we are is solely due to the quality of players that we have available each week, their lack of experience, new players in a new team every week not yet working as team, the effect of the forced changes, injuries players are carrying, disruptive pre season etc.

Maybe it all turns around when we have a full roster, existing players are 100% fit and they have more NRL experience, plus we get some new, quality NRL experienced players and the pathways start to produce NRL worthy players.

Pretty much what Gould said 18 months ago, at the start of this season and again earlier this week.


Always a Bulldog

 

[wendog33]

Does anyone really think that Ciraldo and Tangata-Toa don't talk everyday about how every NSW Cup player is going?
That Ciraldo, Potter and Tangata-Toa don't review every second of the video of every game in every grade every week?
That Ciraldo, Potter and Tangata-Toa don't attend every NSW Cup, Jersey Flegg, Ron Massey Cup, SG Ball etc game live whenever possible?
That the rest of the high performance team, trainers, physios, dietitians, welfare etc aren't involved in every player discussion?

They know far more about every player than we will ever know.


Always a Bulldog

Seems a bit too airy fairy TT. You aren't acknowledging the problems or the poor results obtained by any of these coaches and high performance staff you talk of.

It isnt working and there are inherent problems with effort and motivation et that dont appear to be solved by any of these people you appear to have so much faith in.

 

[Bad Billy]

Rajab should never have been hooked. He was being exposed by tactics. There’s virtually no 5/8th in the game that would’ve stopped those tries 1on1.
Ciraldo needed to address why he was being so easily exposed.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Seems a bit too airy fairy TT. You aren't acknowledging the problems or the poor results obtained by any of these coaches and high performance staff you talk of.

It isnt working and there are inherent problems with effort and motivation et that dont appear to be solved by any of these people you appear to have so much faith in.

Obviously I acknowledge the win versus loss results are poor, I'm just as unhappy as any Bulldog's supporter. But maybe the results are representative of the current playing group that we put on the field each week, that's the best that they can produce. Inconsistency is just part of that, we can play well during a game, but not the whole game. We can play well for a whole game, but not every game.

There is plenty of history of a good team of players not working with the coach, change the coach and suddenly the team gels. Is that because the new coach is a genius? Is it because the old coach was an idiot? Not always, sometimes it's just timing, the same players needed the extra games experience playing together and the new coach arrived at just the right time. Warriors this year, prime example.

There is also plenty of history of an average team of players not working with a great coach, add a few players and suddenly the team gels even when a very average coach takes over. Sometimes it's just the handful of players that make a huge difference, for example us in 2009 when we added Brett Kimmorley, Josh Morris, Michael Ennis, David Stagg, Ben Hannant and Greg Eastwood with Kevin Moore as the coach. Does anyone really think changing the coach made that difference?

In regards to points for and against, I see that as a factor more related to "speeding up the game", set restarts, shot clocks on everything, etc. It makes it very difficult for a team that gets behind to grind out a win, something Bulldogs are famous for. It's very difficult to come back from a large deficit in possession, teams get on role and there is no chance to recover from the fatigue. Last night Tigers and Sharks is a prime example, 12 all at half time, Sharks get on role in the 2nd half and it's 36 to 12 at full time.


Always a Bulldog

 

[Dognacious]

The guy wasnt ready sure but be fair. Defending alongside Knockonboor and Alamoti would be horrendous.

We keep saying it but until the deficient, mistake riddled, poor defender shirt grabbers are not selected by CC, and anyone else who wants to give even 90% is picked, then the team is cooked. The team has given up and lost their competitiveness and have made their judgement on the coach...mind you they havent earnt the right but thats the state of the team atm.

Its all CC's fault for not identifying the slackers and continuously picking these guys. Its up to Gus to get rid of them. It should be as obvious to Gus and CC as much as it is obvious to us what the first problem is and then start working on all the other issues.

Oki and Perham must be great trainers and CC's strongest supporters and this can only be the reason he leaves them in the team to the teams detriment. Most of the other players appear to have zoned out.

What do u mean cc keeps picking the halves the same / doesnt hook them? We have had burton at 6 and 7, ko, Flanagan, and rajab partnering him. How many halves do u think we have in the top 30?

 

[billy beane]

If your questions is in the overall context of what's going wrong.

Maybe nothing, that the results we are getting are exactly what we should be getting. Maybe where we are is solely due to the quality of players that we have available each week, their lack of experience, new players in a new team every week not yet working as team, the effect of the forced changes, injuries players are carrying, disruptive pre season etc.

Maybe it all turns around when we have a full roster, existing players are 100% fit and they have more NRL experience, plus we get some new, quality NRL experienced players and the pathways start to produce NRL worthy players.

Pretty much what Gould said 18 months ago, at the start of this season and again earlier this week.


Always a Bulldog

Spot on mate .... a comment based on an understanding of how footy works at the NRL level.

A rare find indeed around these parts.

The Gus and CC detractors will not be happy.

 

[wendog33]

What do u mean cc keeps picking the halves the same / doesnt hook them? We have had burton at 6 and 7, ko, Flanagan, and rajab partnering him. How many halves do u think we have in the top 30?

Halves? Who mentioned halves. Read it again.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Seems a bit too airy fairy TT. You aren't acknowledging the problems or the poor results obtained by any of these coaches and high performance staff you talk of.

It isnt working and there are inherent problems with effort and motivation et that dont appear to be solved by any of these people you appear to have so much faith in.

It doesn’t mean that at all. When bringing in new systems, and you would see this at work yourself. Some like to push back cause they see nothing wrong with how it worked before and the old system they used was working for them so why change. Once CC gets these guys on board the team will be better for it. As long as the majority buy in and learn what’s expected the team will go forward. It’s up to CC to work out how each player needs to hear that message so they understand how they work in that, and how simple that message needs to be.

 

[wendog33]

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It doesn’t mean that at all. When bringing in new systems, and you would see this at work yourself. Some like to push back cause they see nothing wrong with how it worked before and the old system they used was working for them so why change. Once CC gets these guys on board the team will be better for it. As long as the majority buy in and learn what’s expected the team will go forward. It’s up to CC to work out how each player needs to hear that message so they understand how they work in that, and how simple that message needs to be.

Agree mate but this is not ij any way relevant to the discussion between TT and myself.

 

[Dognacious]

Halves? Who mentioned halves. Read it again.

Dont know what went wrong there. My reply doesnt match the post, but i was reading a post by someone about Ciraldo not trying things in the halves being a problem. Something went askew.

Anyways. Yeh........

 

[wendog33]

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Dont know what went wrong there. My reply doesnt match the post, but i was reading a post by someone about Ciraldo not trying things in the halves being a problem. Something went askew.

Anyways. Yeh........

No worries.