Headline of the year so far

[CroydonDog]

Don't really care about Folau playing qcup, and the story itself isn't particularly interesting, but the headline gave me a laugh.

Well played news.com.au well played...

 

[KambahOne]

lol this will be pun fun.

This back door deal has a real smell about it.

 

[CaptainJackson]

Up there with James Maloney messaging him gay porn when they were playing together

 

[KiwiDog7]

It would be a real bummer if we don’t see him playing NRL again

 

[Blue_boost]

Folau is the real victim. What did he do wrong?

Just because his vote was a no to gay marriage. Incredible the backlash he's copped.

 

[Dognacious]

Folau is the real victim. What did he do wrong?

Just because his vote was a no to gay marriage. Incredible the backlash he's copped.

Not quite. He posted that all gay ppl are going to hell.

 

[Dognacious]

It would be a real bummer if we don’t see him playing NRL again

Its a shitty situation tbh

 

[Blue_boost]

Not quite. He posted that all gay ppl are going to hell.

That's his opinion. Wasn't he just relaying a religious belief? It might be true and it might not be. Who knows?

Just because he voted "no" he is the devil?

 

[DinkumDog]

That's his opinion. Wasn't he just relaying a religious belief? It might be true and it might not be. Who knows?

Just because he voted "no" he is the devil?

Nothing to do with that.
He posted it.
He was warned by Rugby AU not to do it again.
Said terms were placed in his then new lucrative contract that he agreed to and signed.
He breached those terms when he did it again.
What he believes is up to him.
He was sacked for breach of contract, end of.
Rugby AU settled not because they admitted they were wrong but that litigation would be time consuming and expensive and rugby has enough problems as it is.
When the ACL backed Falau it could’ve turned into a drawn out shit fight.
So they settled and moved on. No admissions.
Simples.

 

[Blue_boost]

Nothing to do with that.
He posted it.
He was warned by Rugby AU not to do it again.
Said terms were placed in his then new lucrative contract that he agreed to and signed.
He breached those terms when he did it again.
What he believes is up to him.
He was sacked for breach of contract, end of.
Rugby AU settled not because they admitted they were wrong but that litigation would be time consuming and expensive and rugby has enough problems as it is.
When the ACL backed Falau it could’ve turned into a drawn out shit fight.
So they settled and moved on. No admissions.
Simples.

Sure that is his Rigby deal but why does NRL turn their back to him (excuse the pun).

It's because if his gay views.. if your pro same sex marriage you are ok but if your against, your demonised

 

[DublinDogg]

Its a shitty situation tbh

He’s at the arse end of his career anyway...

 

[DinkumDog]

Sure that is his Rigby deal but why does NRL turn their back to him (excuse the pun).

It's because if his gay views.. if your pro same sex marriage you are ok but if your against, your demonised

Nope.
Nothing to do with marriage.
Had he simply said that as a Christian he’s opposed to gay marriage it would’ve ended there.

He suggested ‘hell awaits’ gays (and drinkers etc).
Yeah I know he quoted an old bible passage.
Common sense should tell you that isn’t going to go down too well. When you already agreed not to say it.

As for the NRL - they referred to themselves as ‘inclusive’ and said what he did isn’t consistent with their views. Translation: we have enough bad headlines and aren’t going to take on any more.

When will people accept the consequences of their own actions and stop looking to pass the buck?

Anyway, a 3 year old story. Time to move on.

 

[Blue_boost]

Nope.
Nothing to do with marriage.
Had he simply said that as a Christian he’s opposed to gay marriage it would’ve ended there.

He suggested ‘hell awaits’ gays (and drinkers etc).
Yeah I know he quoted an old bible passage.
Common sense should tell you that isn’t going to go down too well. When you already agreed not to say it.

As for the NRL - they referred to themselves as ‘inclusive’ and said what he did isn’t consistent with their views. Translation: we have enough bad headlines and aren’t going to take on any more.

When will people accept the consequences of their own actions and stop looking to pass the buck?

Anyway, a 3 year old story. Time to move on.

The NRL say they are inclusive? But exclude him? (Folau)..

So is Matt lodge deserving of a second chance, Russell packer, all of the drug cheating Sharks, but Folau who just said a few words from the Bible excluded?

 

[DinkumDog]

The NRL say they are inclusive? But exclude him? (Folau)..

So is Matt lodge deserving of a second chance, Russell packer, all of the drug cheating Sharks, but Folau who just said a few words from the Bible excluded?

I don’t condone any of those players being allowed to play but it’s two different matters as well - individual acts of stupidity and violence vs sending a message to whole of society. Twice.

Anyway, I’m not here to debate whether Izzy should’ve been allowed back or not - I simply stated he was sacked for breach of contract and that’s all.

It appears St. Merge had a nibble at getting him back but suffered backlash for doing so - I don’t think it even got to the NRL as to whether they’d allow it or not - so that tells you that there’s still a bunch of people unhappy at what Izzy said.

He’s near the end of his career anyway, so the debate is rather pointless.

 

[Blue_boost]

I don’t condone any of those players being allowed to play but it’s two different matters as well - individual acts of stupidity and violence vs sending a message to whole of society. Twice.

Anyway, I’m not here to debate whether Izzy should’ve been allowed back or not - I simply stated he was sacked for breach of contract and that’s all.

It appears St. Merge had a nibble at getting him back but suffered backlash for doing so - I don’t think it even got to the NRL as to whether they’d allow it or not - so that tells you that there’s still a bunch of people unhappy at what Izzy said.

He’s near the end of his career anyway, so the debate is rather pointless.

Apparently all the Jarryd Hayne memorabilia has been stripped out at the eels. No mention of him anywhere.

 

[DinkumDog]

Apparently all the Jarryd Hayne memorabilia has been stripped out at the eels. No mention of him anywhere.

Since his conviction?
Or since he left the club?
Criminal matters are entirely different and I don’t think anyone has ever suggested what Izzy did was illegal.

 

[Blue_boost]

Since his conviction?
Or since he left the club?
Criminal matters are entirely different and I don’t think anyone has ever suggested what Izzy did was illegal.

Wasn't Russell packer a criminal matter too? Matt lodge? But Izzy punished more ?

 

[DinkumDog]

Wasn't Russell packer a criminal matter too? Matt lodge? But Izzy punished more ?

Lodge was arrested in the US but pleaded down to a civil matter which the NRL doesn’t get involved in. Packer served his time and was released. These blokes are clearly grubs and I’m not defending them, but to my knowledge they haven’t re-offended.

Not sure why you keep comparing the matters.

Ask yourself, purely from the optics: Izzy did what he did twice - after he had agreed not to do it again after the first time and then signed a multi-million dollar contract agreeing to those terms, which he then ignored. Even if the NRL allowed him to play - who’s going to take the risk, particularly at this stage of his career? St. Merge allegedly enquired and were howled down by their members and sponsors. How about asking them why their stance rather than the NRL?

 

[TwinTurbo]

Ask yourself, purely from the optics: Izzy did what he did twice - after he had agreed not to do it again after the first time and then signed a multi-million dollar contract agreeing to those terms, which he then ignored. Even if the NRL allowed him to play - who’s going to take the risk, particularly at this stage of his career? St. Merge allegedly enquired and were howled down by their members and sponsors. How about asking them why their stance rather than the NRL?

The problem the NRL has is that it has not been proven that Folau breached his RA contract, as they (RA and Folau) mutually agreed to terminate the contract and RA actually paid Folau for his agreement to that. Folau can rightly claim that he has done nothing wrong (in regards to breaching his contract) and therefore the NRL has no legal grounds to refuse to register a contract between him and an NRL club. What the NRL can do is stall for months, maybe even years if they go legal, which is what they threatened StGeorge with. The majority of StG members I know were desperate to get a player of his calibre, as for sponsors who knows, does StGeorge Bank have more church going customers than gay ones?

The court of public opinion is another matter but we need to keep in mind that an overwhelming 89% of the responses at the time to The Australian survey was that RA should not sack Israel Folau over his social media posts.

The Australian

Should Rugby Australia sack Israel Folau over his social media posts?

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Personally I don't care either way, but we (NRL) are losing RTS so it would be good to get one back.

Go Dogs

 

[DinkumDog]

Personally I don't care either way

I don’t care either.
It wasn’t mutual though.
He was sacked.
He took legal action.
The ACL got in his corner - ‘Thoughts and Prayers’
Translation: Legal Fees.
Rugby AU settled to avoid costly and lengthy litigation.

Israel Folau's rugby union contract terminated as punishment for players' code of conduct breach - ABC News

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Rugby Australia and Israel Folau settle legal dispute over sacking - ABC News

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