Gladys Berejiklian to quit politics

[CaptainJackson]

I wonder if the ABC would invest the same money and resources into investigating Daniel Andrews or The Potato head that rules QLD at the moment for any reason with the vigor they have Berejiklian.. I doubt it.

It was the ICAC not the ABC

 

[El Padrino]

Daily Telegraph headline

"Non bulldogs fan Gladys has resigned"

 

[Bazildog]

I understand this point of view but let's also remember she defended pork barrelling saying everyone does it. While there may be some level of truth to this (I stress "some level"), she defended this known method of corruption, basically saying everyone does it so it doesn't matter if I do it.

Cmon mate, is she wrong with that statement? Seriously Australian politics of all parties are immersed in the practice, so is she just stupid for being honest..

 

[wendog33]

Miss Corruption.

Didn't miss!

 

[BELMORE]

Has anyone seen the cover for this mornings Fin Review? It is about the most powerful people in Australia, and suggests that the states have become more powerful at the expense of the feds. The front cover has a photo of Gladys...

NSW carrying the Australian economy

 

[Bazildog]

It was the ICAC not the ABC

You watch enough ABC to know that is not correct. They were just on 24 bragging about thier in depth investigations being the reason for ICAC pursuining it.

 

[CaptainJackson]

Cmon mate, is she wrong with that statement? Seriously Australian politics of all parties are immersed in the practice, so is she just stupid for being honest..

I edited my post to include the following

(I stress "some level" as some alleged instances of it occurring in the past, would be difficult to prove if it was in fact pork barrelling)

While "pub tests" may claim pork barrelling, I think there are many cases where there was genuine need for infrastructure projects but still had a label of "pork barrelling" associated with it. So no, I can't agree with the pork barrelling statement unless it's investigated and found to be so.

 

[CaptainJackson]

You watch enough ABC to know that is not correct. They were just on 24 bragging about thier in depth investigations being the reason for ICAC pursuining it.

So when the ABC investigated Eddie Obeid, Ian Macdonald, etc that was ok?

And we're blaming the ABC for uncovering corruption?

 

[Psycho Doggie]

I understand this point of view but let's also remember she defended pork barrelling saying everyone does it. While there may be some level of truth to this (I stress "some level" as some alleged instances of it occurring in the past, would be difficult to prove if it was in fact pork barrelling), she defended this known method of corruption, basically saying everyone does it so it doesn't matter if I do it.

That was stupid and dangerous. But I don't think that is why she is in front of ICAC. It would be good if it was, but at this stage too many people are trotters deep in the stuff to risk the kind of uncertainty that could sweep the general population if this was strictly acted on. At this stage of things it feels like the lesser evil to let her at least see the year out before moving on these things. But its done now.

Personally I'd rather see Barilaro go for questionable behaviour before Gladys.

 

[Psycho Doggie]

Is she behind bars.

She is looking ironically powerful. Goes to show that this caught a lot of people off guard though. If the AFR had even an inkling that this was going to happen they'd have not run the piece or put Gladys on the cover.

 

[CaptainJackson]

That was stupid and dangerous. But I don't think that is why she is in front of ICAC. It would be good if it was, but at this stage too many people are trotters deep in the stuff to risk the kind of uncertainty that could sweep the general population if this was strictly acted on. At this stage of things it feels like the lesser evil to let her at least see the year out before moving on these things. But its done now.

Personally I'd rather see Barilaro go for questionable behaviour before Gladys.

Without a doubt the current state government will be worse off without her as leader (I'd personally like to see Andrew Constance but I know it won't happen).

But I'd rather an ICAC and penalties with teeth to it. For example, there is no way in the world Eddie Obeid should be allowed out, he should serve the rest of his life in prison. Accountability has to be there. Of the recent premiers, I think it was Barry O'Farrell who can actually claim injustice, over a bottle of wine ffs!

 

[gregeastwood]

Dominic Paratay or however you spell it will take over most likely. He will do good for the people.

 

[Psycho Doggie]

Without a doubt the current state government will be worse off without her as leader (I'd personally like to see Andrew Constance but I know it won't happen).

But I'd rather an ICAC and penalties with teeth to it. For example, there is no way in the world Eddie Obeid should be allowed out, he should serve the rest of his life in prison. Accountability has to be there. Of the recent premiers, I think it was Barry O'Farrell who can actually claim injustice, over a bottle of wine ffs!

Obeid was flat out corrupt, he should be in jail for the rest of, and all his assets should be stripped.

I'm not a fan of Constance, always felt a bit wrong to me, and when he went and unjustifiably misrepresented and blasted charities in the wake of the fires that was enough. Don't like him.

The treasurer has a lot to answer for with the iCare stuff, which he hasn't been made to answer for.

Barilaro is slimier than a bucket of slugs.

NSW for a while now has been in a situation where the party that has been in power for a while just gets so awful they get voted out out of spite but only once the other side has been out of power for long enough that the voters have forgotten how bad they were when they were last in.

 

[wendog33]

It's a bit naive to think that she was oblivious to the corruption of her boyfriend IMO.

If you've listened to all the conversation tapes held by ICAC between the 2, it's hard not to conclude, by what she said and replied to him, that she wasn't fully aware of his illegal dealings and favourable grants she made to his electorate as the NSW Treasurer.


Anyway, on another front, her Govt clearly now have the most progressive climate change policies at present.

Her book should be very interesting, if she explains the behind the scenes frustrations she's had with scomo backgrounding behind her back with vaccinations and also last years fires.

After Sky got on her case, with all their jackals, it was just a matter of time.

DictatorDan outlasted her. Who'd a thought.

 

[CaptainJackson]

I'm not a fan of Constance, always felt a bit wrong to me, and when he went and unjustifiably misrepresented and blasted charities in the wake of the fires that was enough. Don't like him.

Can you link me to this? I hadn't heard about this

The treasurer has a lot to answer for with the iCare stuff, which he hasn't been made to answer for.

Barilaro is slimier than a bucket of slugs.

Dominic Perrottet and Rob Stokes have put their hands up for leadership (I'm hearing).

Batilaro is part of the Nationals so I don't think he's eligible for leadership.

 

[El Padrino]

Lynne Anderson for leadership?

 

[Psycho Doggie]

Can you link me to this? I hadn't heard about this

NSW Minister tears into Red Cross for sitting on bushfire donations while victims suffer

An emotional Andrew Constance attacks charities who have received millions in donations for not handing out relief money fast enough while traumatised bushfire victims are "on their knees" and living in tents.

www.abc.net.au

 

[CaptainJackson]

NSW Minister tears into Red Cross for sitting on bushfire donations while victims suffer

An emotional Andrew Constance attacks charities who have received millions in donations for not handing out relief money fast enough while traumatised bushfire victims are "on their knees" and living in tents.

www.abc.net.au

You know what, I can forgive that. He was very stressed out at the time and was amongst those people who had lost everything, so the emotional toll on him could've resulted in outbursts that probably weren't proper or right.

 

[Bazildog]

So when the ABC investigated Eddie Obeid, Ian Macdonald, etc that was ok?

And we're blaming the ABC for uncovering corruption?

I dont mind the different points of view mate thats healthy, but compareing what Obied and Sir Lunchalot Macdonald did to this with Berejiklian is pretty ridicoulous. As for Pork Barreling and you not believing I will just say its like the age old masturbation question. Your answer will only reveal you to be either a fool or a liar, a fool if you dont or a liar if you do but say you dont.

I think this is a real shame and another reason why its hard to get the best people into politics instead of the private sector, who the fuck would want to put up with scrutiny and rubbish they do for the rubbish money.

 

[wendog33]

So when the ABC investigated Eddie Obeid, Ian Macdonald, etc that was ok?

And we're blaming the ABC for uncovering corruption?

ABC had an expose of Andrews Govt corruption with Crown Casinos and money laundering a few weeks ago....they go after everyone (where there's a story). Sometimes it takes a while for mainstream to pick it up (see Christian Porter).

Clearly incumbent Govts will be their natural targets. No story in going after opposition parties unless its some sensationalist stuff.

Thank God we have the ABC. Otherwise the only other investigative journalism is A Current Affair

ABC now giving her a glowing endorsement of her time as Premier. Introduced Opal card, did well as Health, Transport Minster etc etc. (except for ICAC investigations).

It's probably the best thing for the Liberal Party with a new leader and a refresh heading into the next phase of C19.

NSW Premier ICAC scalps:
Greiner
O'Farrell
Gladys?

Any others?