Forward pass and off side: refs admit Parramatta blunder

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CHRIS BARRETT
March 23, 2010
ALREADY frustrated that a crucial forward pass was missed during their heartbreaking 24-20 loss to Parramatta, Manly are seething that match officials also overlooked the fact that an Eels player was offside during the very same play.

NRL referees boss Robert Finch yesterday admitted a pass from interchange hooker Kris Keating to centre Joel Reddy, who proceeded to score under the posts in the 73rd minute of Sunday's game, had travelled a metre forward. Finch said Manly coach Des Hasler had informed him of a further Eels indiscretion in the same movement - halfback Jeff Robson being clearly offside before picking up a chip kick from Jarryd Hayne.

Footage shows Robson at least a step in front of Hayne when the fullback puts boot to ball (see photo right). The No.7 was then first to gather the ball, flicking it inside to Hayne, who distributed it to Keating before it was thrown - forward - out to Reddy.

Finch told the Herald he would examine vision of the incident today. While referees Shayne Hayne and Brett Suttor were unable to refer the forward pass to video referee Tim Mander, they could have done so to seek an adjudication on other possible infringements, including the fact Robson was offside. Instead, a try was awarded without a referral.

Hasler was scathing in his assessment of the performance of touch judges Jeff Younis and Gavin Reynolds, in particular,on Sunday, offering to pay for them to get a check-up at an eye specialist. Yesterday he escaped censure for his post-match comments, as did Canterbury's Kevin Moore and South Sydney's John Lang for their criticism of referees following weekend losses.

Finch admitted officials had erred in allowing the Keating pass to stand and said a penalty should also have earlier been awarded to Parramatta for obstruction when Manly scored their first try.

''It travelled, I reckon, five metres forward across the ground,'' Finch said of Keating's pass to Reddy. ''But anyone who understands momentum and the anatomy of a forward pass, you're probably looking - once you take in the momentum of a player as well, not being a scientist - but probably a metre. I'm pretty disappointed with the team's performance yesterday afternoon.''

Hayne and Suttor will retain their places in charge of NRL games this weekend but touch judge Reynolds could be dropped today. ''Especially Shane Hayne, he's a referee of the year internationally,'' Finch said. ''A referee of his experience, he's got a few brownie points on the board. I'm more critical of the sideline official.''

While Hasler and his fellow coaches escaped fines, which can be up to $10,000, for their thoughts on refereeing performances there was a reminder yesterday that some were walking the tightrope with their remarks. Moore's suggestion that the Bulldogs could not get ''a fair crack of the whip'' against the Dragons on Friday night was a leading example.

NRL chief operating officer Graham Annesley said clubs would be fined if coaches overstepped the mark. ''Referees understand that they are accountable but they should not have to accept accusations of bias, nor should they be subjected to public ridicule or abuse,'' said Annesley, a former referee.

''There were a couple of comments this weekend that were at the edge of what we would allow before imposing substantial fines. The rules remain clear: if the integrity of the referee is challenged, if demeaning or insulting comments are used then clubs can expect to be fined.''

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Moore got off the 10,000 fine!!!
 

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Just allow the video ref to make call on forward passes.

More hold ups in games, but pretty much 90% of tries go upstairs anyway so it prob wont even matter.
 

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Its only round two and a team has already blatantly been ripped off by the refereeing.

I hate Manly but its a disgraceful decision!!

Just allow the video ref to make call on forward passes.

More hold ups in games, but pretty much 90% of tries go upstairs anyway so it prob wont even matter.
Are forward passes pretty much the only thing a video referee cant make a judgement on?

I'm sure they used to be able to but people complained because it was too hard to judge with the angle
 

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Are forward passes pretty much the only thing a video referee cant make a judgement on?

I'm sure they used to be able to but people complained because it was too hard to judge with the angle
That was the issue as refs keep going back to video refs to see if there is a forward pass but the angles always turn out inconclusive
 

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Just like the Dogs v Dragons last year its fine for the referee to come out the day after the event but that doesn't give the 2 points to the team that were robbed, I think Parramatta are the favoured team this year and a few decisions are going to go their way.
 

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The two ref system was introduced to help stop misakes like this, not to give the refs a break. Four officials on the field can't see what has happened. Thousands of fans can...... go figure.
 

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I watched it, Manly got f^cked over no question....... parra got back into the game with something like 5 penalties in a row and a try that wasn't even close to being legal (1 meter forward my @ss, it was 5 meters if not more).

There was nothing even about it
 

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fail fail fail fail fail...thats the best way to describe the refs tbh
 

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NRL chief operating officer Graham Annesley said clubs would be fined if coaches overstepped the mark. ''Referees understand that they are accountable but they should not have to accept accusations of bias, nor should they be subjected to public ridicule or abuse,'' said Annesley, a former referee.

''There were a couple of comments this weekend that were at the edge of what we would allow before imposing substantial fines. The rules remain clear: if the integrity of the referee is challenged, if demeaning or insulting comments are used then clubs can expect to be fined.''
Accusations of bias, and public ridicule or abuse is exactly what some of the referee's should get, they are professionals being paid to do a job, not volunteers. For the players to give it their all and lose due to ref stupidity isn't right.

If a club says something about a ref they get fined, if a ref is incompetent, they get nothing lasting (even the wank who cost us the game v the Dragons last year still has his job right?). Apologies the week after mean nothing.
 

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Accusations of bias, and public ridicule or abuse is exactly what some of the referee's should get, they are professionals being paid to do a job, not volunteers. For the players to give it their all and lose due to ref stupidity isn't right.

If a club says something about a ref they get fined, if a ref is incompetent, they get nothing lasting (even the wank who cost us the game v the Dragons last year still has his job right?). Apologies the week after mean nothing.
agreed...its like ok we gotten the apology but what next???
 
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