For & Against: Will Barrett lead Bulldogs back to finals in 2021?

Will we be in the finals this year?

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Paul Zalunardo & Chris KennedyTimestampTue 9 Feb 2021, 12:50 PM


Can a new coach, a handful of impressive signings and a much-needed dose of good fortune turn the Bulldogs into a finals side in 2021?
The Bulldogs won just three matches in 2020, only avoiding the wooden spoon by having a superior points differential to a Brisbane side that lost 17 of their last 18 games.

In this week's For & Against, NRL.com journalists Paul Zalunardo and Chris Kennedy discuss the merits of Canterbury staging a dramatic turnaround and ending the year with finals football.

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NRL.com journalist Paul Zalunardo

They need everything to go right, but the Bulldogs are in with a shout of staging a remarkable turnaround and reaching the 2021 finals.
Yes, Canterbury did only win three matches from 20 starts last season, but nine of their 17 losses were by eight points or less.
Self-belief, especially when it comes to young teams, carries plenty of water.

Bulldogs head to Kiama

Bulldogs head to Kiama

Bulldogs head to Kiama

If Canterbury had won two, or maybe even all, of the three matches they lost by eight or less during the opening six rounds of 2020 (either side of the COVID-19 break) they would have been feeling grand with a 3-3 or 4-2 record. Confidence levels would have been high.
Instead, they were 1-5 and for all intents and purposes the finals were out of the picture. What followed was a season marred by a coaching change and six more losses in winnable matches.

The belief hasn’t been high in close matches in recent years, but an incoming coach who has already proven himself could be the magic elixir.

Everybody’s heading to Magic Round

Everybody’s heading to Magic Round

Everybody’s heading to Magic Round

One thing you can’t deny about Trent Barrett’s coaching is that he can improve an attack. Funnily enough, that’s just what the Dogs need.
He did that at Manly, and albeit with more talent, replicated it when working as the attack coach for Ivan Cleary at the Panthers.
Canterbury’s attack was regularly found wanting in 2020 but as well as having Barrett, the backline will have a new look this year.

A lot will rest on the shoulders of new halfback Kyle Flanagan. After being unable to find a halves combination that can spark an attack in recent years, Canterbury are hoping they have one piece of the solution to that puzzle in place.
That issue should be totally rectified when Matt Burton strides into town in November, although the player and his agent are keen for that to happen earlier.

There is also a pair of Origin-standard outside backs preparing to make their club debuts.
Nick Cotric comes from Canberra and Corey Allan caps a six-month period that included making his name as a top-shelf fullback at Souths and playing in a winning State of Origin team.

Analysing the Bulldogs' 2021 draw

Analysing the Bulldogs' 2021 draw

Analysing the Bulldogs' 2021 draw

While integrating that trio into a new-look attack was high on Barrett’s list of summer priorities, getting Dallin Watene-Zelezniak back to his best should also be prominent on his to-do list.

DWZ needs to again become a try-scoring threat and a strong ball-runner when his side is carting the ball off their own line.
As far as making the top eight, there are some vulnerable teams from last year’s finals.

Cronulla, Newcastle and Parramatta are the three most likely to find the going tough. Even though the Eels finished in the top four, their record of 10 wins by eight points or less suggests things were not as dominant as the results indicated.

On paper, the Gold Coast, Warriors and Manly are ahead of Canterbury when it comes to finding sides capable of moving from the bottom eight into the finals, but a strong start for the men from Belmore may just make them the story of 2021.

Bulldogs halfback Kyle Flanagan.
Bulldogs halfback Kyle Flanagan.©bulldogs.com.au

NRL.com reporter Chris Kennedy

The Bulldogs look like they will show plenty of improvement in 2021 off the back of some smart recruiting and a change of coach – but finals football is still a bridge too far.

The recruitment of halfback Kyle Flanagan and fullback Corey Allan should add some polish in attack. Adding Nick Cotric to the backline won't hurt and Jack Hetherington should bring some fire and brimstone to the pack.

Incoming coach Trent Barrett had a great year guiding the young Penrith attack last year and no doubt learned plenty from his time as Manly head coach.

The Bulldogs will be a lot better than last year but it will be very tough for them to rise as high as the playoff equation. This is why.

Defensively they finished 2020 with the second-most missed tackles after Cronulla, second-most ineffective tackles behind Gold Coast, second-most tries conceded behind Brisbane and fourth-most line breaks conceded.

In attack, they had the fewest line breaks and fewest tackle breaks of any club, well behind the second-worst team in each category.

They also had the second-fewest tries scored (beating Brisbane by one). Barrett is a renowned attacking coach but the former Blues and Kangaroos five-eighth is starting from a pretty low base.

Improving from 15th to eighth or better is a massive jump when you have to reverse those sorts of numbers. It's not unprecedented – remarkably the last-placed Eels and Barrett's own 15th-placed Sea Eagles under new coach Des Hasler each jumped from the bottom two in 2018 to the finals a year after.

Corey Allan.
Corey Allan.©NRL Photos
But such wild swings are the exception rather than the rule.

While this team has some talented playmakers, every one of them is still finding his feet at NRL level.

Flanagan was in and out of the Roosters side last year, Allan only got his chance late in the season through the injury to Latrell Mitchell, Jeremy Marshall-King is still developing into an NRL hooker and Flanagan's halves partner is yet to be determined.

The pack is workmanlike rather than dynamic, and it's a similar story in the backs.

The blue and whites will give a good account of themselves this year and be a tough team to beat more often than not.

They're building to something and the experience this year for the young playmakers will be vital next year when further roster strengthening should give them a genuine shot of returning to finals footy.

 

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Paul Zalunardo & Chris KennedyTimestampTue 9 Feb 2021, 12:50 PM


Can a new coach, a handful of impressive signings and a much-needed dose of good fortune turn the Bulldogs into a finals side in 2021?
The Bulldogs won just three matches in 2020, only avoiding the wooden spoon by having a superior points differential to a Brisbane side that lost 17 of their last 18 games.

In this week's For & Against, NRL.com journalists Paul Zalunardo and Chris Kennedy discuss the merits of Canterbury staging a dramatic turnaround and ending the year with finals football.

For

NRL.com journalist Paul Zalunardo

They need everything to go right, but the Bulldogs are in with a shout of staging a remarkable turnaround and reaching the 2021 finals.
Yes, Canterbury did only win three matches from 20 starts last season, but nine of their 17 losses were by eight points or less.
Self-belief, especially when it comes to young teams, carries plenty of water.

Bulldogs head to Kiama

Bulldogs head to Kiama

Bulldogs head to Kiama

If Canterbury had won two, or maybe even all, of the three matches they lost by eight or less during the opening six rounds of 2020 (either side of the COVID-19 break) they would have been feeling grand with a 3-3 or 4-2 record. Confidence levels would have been high.
Instead, they were 1-5 and for all intents and purposes the finals were out of the picture. What followed was a season marred by a coaching change and six more losses in winnable matches.

The belief hasn’t been high in close matches in recent years, but an incoming coach who has already proven himself could be the magic elixir.

Everybody’s heading to Magic Round

Everybody’s heading to Magic Round

Everybody’s heading to Magic Round

One thing you can’t deny about Trent Barrett’s coaching is that he can improve an attack. Funnily enough, that’s just what the Dogs need.
He did that at Manly, and albeit with more talent, replicated it when working as the attack coach for Ivan Cleary at the Panthers.
Canterbury’s attack was regularly found wanting in 2020 but as well as having Barrett, the backline will have a new look this year.

A lot will rest on the shoulders of new halfback Kyle Flanagan. After being unable to find a halves combination that can spark an attack in recent years, Canterbury are hoping they have one piece of the solution to that puzzle in place.
That issue should be totally rectified when Matt Burton strides into town in November, although the player and his agent are keen for that to happen earlier.

There is also a pair of Origin-standard outside backs preparing to make their club debuts.
Nick Cotric comes from Canberra and Corey Allan caps a six-month period that included making his name as a top-shelf fullback at Souths and playing in a winning State of Origin team.

Analysing the Bulldogs' 2021 draw' 2021 draw

Analysing the Bulldogs' 2021 draw

Analysing the Bulldogs' 2021 draw

While integrating that trio into a new-look attack was high on Barrett’s list of summer priorities, getting Dallin Watene-Zelezniak back to his best should also be prominent on his to-do list.

DWZ needs to again become a try-scoring threat and a strong ball-runner when his side is carting the ball off their own line.
As far as making the top eight, there are some vulnerable teams from last year’s finals.

Cronulla, Newcastle and Parramatta are the three most likely to find the going tough. Even though the Eels finished in the top four, their record of 10 wins by eight points or less suggests things were not as dominant as the results indicated.

On paper, the Gold Coast, Warriors and Manly are ahead of Canterbury when it comes to finding sides capable of moving from the bottom eight into the finals, but a strong start for the men from Belmore may just make them the story of 2021.

Bulldogs halfback Kyle Flanagan.
Bulldogs halfback Kyle Flanagan.©bulldogs.com.au

NRL.com reporter Chris Kennedy

The Bulldogs look like they will show plenty of improvement in 2021 off the back of some smart recruiting and a change of coach – but finals football is still a bridge too far.

The recruitment of halfback Kyle Flanagan and fullback Corey Allan should add some polish in attack. Adding Nick Cotric to the backline won't hurt and Jack Hetherington should bring some fire and brimstone to the pack.

Incoming coach Trent Barrett had a great year guiding the young Penrith attack last year and no doubt learned plenty from his time as Manly head coach.

The Bulldogs will be a lot better than last year but it will be very tough for them to rise as high as the playoff equation. This is why.

Defensively they finished 2020 with the second-most missed tackles after Cronulla, second-most ineffective tackles behind Gold Coast, second-most tries conceded behind Brisbane and fourth-most line breaks conceded.

In attack, they had the fewest line breaks and fewest tackle breaks of any club, well behind the second-worst team in each category.

They also had the second-fewest tries scored (beating Brisbane by one). Barrett is a renowned attacking coach but the former Blues and Kangaroos five-eighth is starting from a pretty low base.

Improving from 15th to eighth or better is a massive jump when you have to reverse those sorts of numbers. It's not unprecedented – remarkably the last-placed Eels and Barrett's own 15th-placed Sea Eagles under new coach Des Hasler each jumped from the bottom two in 2018 to the finals a year after.

Corey Allan.
Corey Allan.©NRL Photos
But such wild swings are the exception rather than the rule.

While this team has some talented playmakers, every one of them is still finding his feet at NRL level.

Flanagan was in and out of the Roosters side last year, Allan only got his chance late in the season through the injury to Latrell Mitchell, Jeremy Marshall-King is still developing into an NRL hooker and Flanagan's halves partner is yet to be determined.

The pack is workmanlike rather than dynamic, and it's a similar story in the backs.

The blue and whites will give a good account of themselves this year and be a tough team to beat more often than not.

They're building to something and the experience this year for the young playmakers will be vital next year when further roster strengthening should give them a genuine shot of returning to finals footy.

Yup PS Bear is not dead
 

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Yes Sir he will... or will come very fucking close.!! Either way, TBAZ has already been successful in what he has done to date and in very short time. 2021 will be massive compared to recent years gone, bring it on..!!
 

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Since the arrival of Corey Allan, I have thought we can potentially sneak into the finals this year, if a lot of things go our way. In any case, we will improve on 2020 and jump up the ladder to some degree. We are well placed for 2022, but I think we will get some joy this year, after years in the wilderness, if expectations don't start outweighing reality.
 

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Since the arrival of Corey Allan, I have thought we can potentially sneak into the finals this year, if a lot of things go our way. In any case, we will improve on 2020 and jump up the ladder to some degree. We are well placed for 2022, but I think we will get some joy this year, after years in the wilderness, if expectations don't start outweighing reality.
I think this is a fair summation. Either we just sneak into the 8 or just miss it. Either way it gives us a good building block for 22 with some new players we know are arriving and undoubtedly some dead wood going out the door.

I heard Peter Doust say once on Talking Sport that most clubs work out their potential rosters 2 or 3 years in advance. Barrett and co will already have a plan of some sort in place.
 

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I think we can slip into the finals, if a lot of things go our way. I think we can at least go fairly close this year.
 

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2022, IF we sign a top/good hooker. 9th-12th will be a good placement for this year.
 

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We need a few things to go our way to make the finals.

- Gelling as a team and adjusting to Tbaz’s new structures as quickly as possible.
- Players like JMK, Averillo, Atoni, Hetherington and possibly Ogden taking that next step and developing into fully fledged NRL players.
- A few early season confidence building wins.
- A slice of luck with close results falling our way.

Unfortunately the way I see it there’s just a little too much to do for finals this year but it will be a big step forward for finals in 22
 

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The thing nobody mentions about all the close losses last season is that the teams that beat us by those small margins played the worse games of their season and still won. We have a long way to go , but definitely heading in the right direction
 

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Actually closer than I thought;

Will The Bulldogs make the finals in 2021?

Yes = 40%

No 60%

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Couple reasons why I think we will make the 8 this year
- will be much better in attack with the addition of a real half in Flanno, strike player in Cotric (potentially Avo) and another ball player out the back in Allen
- almost a guaranteed 2 points with Flanno kicking. We have lost heaps of close games in the past few years due to having a shit kicker
I don’t even think we will scrape in, I think we will finish top 6 easily.
 
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