Facebook called the bluff lol

[south of heaven]

If I hate the media and don't use facebook, does this effect me?

I got no idea what this shits about, I don't even like talking to my mrs

 

[Scoooby]

Facebook meh... deleted that crap 12 years ago.

 

[The DoggFather]

Facebook meh... deleted that crap 12 years ago.

Would you believe I never had it?

 

[DinkumDog]

I havent read this whole article but it has a
time line on NBN. Time line should be accurate but I don't know what the writers political views are.

It was used as a political football at the behest of Murdoch and shouldn't have been.

This Is What Australia's NBN Should Have Been Like

It’s the end of a long week, work has been stressful, your dog is mad at you for some reason, and the only thing you want to do is watch a heap of Netflix. But alas, rather than the crystal clear quality stream you expected for your third rewatch of Beyoncé’s Homecoming, you’re going to […]

goat.com.au

You can’t just blame Murdoch.
There’s way more to it than that.

The simple fact is both Labor and the Coalition massively underestimated the reality of the task both in terms of cost and timeline. Both are to blame and eventually 5G will be an affordable alternative that’s superior. That’s why the NBN finished the rollout last year and is now investing in next gen tech:

NBN changes coming to bring the National Broadband Network up to 1Gbps for most Australians by 2023 - Ausdroid

It’s almost trite to talk about how the original plans for Australia’s National Broadband Network didn’t quite work out the way it was intended, and there’s also not all that much argument that the NBN we’ve wound up with in 2020 isn’t exactly world class. While some premises enjoy blazing fast...

ausdroid.net

It’s a never ending battle because technology (and demand for it) is moving so quickly.

 

[wendog33]

Yeah. I’m not exactly a fan of Rupes but to suggest he’s the only game in town isn’t right either.

And you said you'd watched The Loudest Voice and you don't blame Rupert! Lol

 

[CroydonDog]

Barnsey's videos have also been blocked. now they have gone too far.

 

[DinkumDog]

If I hate the media and don't use facebook, does this effect me?

Nope, you’re good....

 

[DinkumDog]

And you said you'd watched The Loudest Voice and you don't blame Rupert! Lol

Huh?
What did Roger Ailes have to do with the NBN?

 

[Rodzilla]

He's a smart guy, you don't get rich giving things away.
I'm sure you wouldn't sit idly by if someone was attacking your empire. Doesn't mean I like him - I don't especially and I'm very anti far right garbage like Fox and Sky News.

But the NBN as it stood in 2013 was impossible to roll out as an all fibre network. That's not to blame Labor - I would've loved an all fibre network but it was just impractical as it was first envisaged - they only finished the rollout last year and that was WITH the MTM. If it were all fibre construction would go on for many more years and cost untold billions more. Rupes was never going to beat the internet and he knew it. Why do you think Foxtel started Kayo and Binge as an example?

As for his ability to not make money - that's just crap - there's a diversified portfolio of profitable businesses - do you honestly think FoxSports and HarperCollins don't make money as just two examples? Or looking more into the digital space, Storyful?

Him wanting governance is no different to when Uber disrupted the taxi industry. The taxi industry demanded it and got it.

His Google deal is smart - and makes sense for both.
Microsoft also support the draft laws.
Zuckerberg is an arrogant punk - and one day he'll pick a fight he won't win.

If you want 'guarantees' - I guarantee you other governments are watching this closely - and if Australia sets the bar others will follow.

fox sports dont make money and harper collins is nothing, news limited is a sinking ship and rupert murdoch shouldnt care as much because he is going to die soon

oh and they are doing the all fibre network now

 

[wendog33]

Huh?
What did Roger Ailes have to do with the NBN?

Ailes-Murdoch-Fox-disproportional political influence/Murdoch-NBN-disproportionate political influence.

I see the common denominator

 

[DinkumDog]

fox sports dont make money and harper collins is nothing, news limited is a sinking ship and rupert murdoch shouldnt care as much because he is going to die soon

Superbly researched .
FoxSports earned $2.72bn last year.
HarperCollins earned $1.67bn last year.
If that’s ‘nothing’ I’ll take it.
Yeah, he’ll die eventually and he’s preparing for the future, that’s why he sold many Fox entities to Disney for $71bn. With that sort of cash in the bank the ship ain’t sinking regardless of what you might think of it.

 

[DinkumDog]

Ailes-Murdoch-Fox-disproportional political influence/Murdoch-NBN-disproportionate political influence.

I see the common denominator

OK. Talk about a long bow. But OK.
We’ll just leave aside that the original NBN plan could never have been built for $15bn shall we?

 

[wendog33]

OK. Talk about a long bow. But OK.
We’ll just leave aside that the original NBN plan could never have been built for $15bn shall we?

No probably fudged the figures to deliver it in the very first instance.

 

[Scoooby]

Would you believe I never had it?

Of corse , I would even hope you never had it hahaa.!!!

 

[DinkumDog]

No probably fudged the figures to deliver it in the very first instance.

Huh?
Rupes is pretty good with numbers.
If the original publicly available NBN plan was so grossly under-costed (it was) - why the need to lobby to ‘dumb it down’? The facts are a nowhere near complete network could’ve been built under the original costing and rollout plan.

I’m not blaming Labor - it was an ambitious project - just poorly executed. Abbott was equally wrong when he said no-one would ever need more than 12mb/s.

It’s just not as simple as you’re trying to make it out to be. The NBN plan did not change purely because of Murdoch and the Coalition and that’s indisputable.

 

[Rodzilla]

Superbly researched .
HarperCollins earned $1.67bn last year.
If that’s ‘nothing’ I’ll take it.
Yeah, he’ll die eventually and he’s preparing for the future, that’s why he sold many Fox entities to Disney for $71bn. With that sort of cash in the bank the ship ain’t sinking regardless of what you might think of it.

that harper collins revenue is down btw, all revenues are down, netflix revenue $25B, murdoch losing money everywhere, foxtel cash cow sinking but hanging his hat on $1.67B revenue from a print publisher

he has lost this media battle just like when he bought myspace for half a billion

 

[AlzzBulldog]

Motherfuckers took down sport bible as well... I’m ready to throw hands

 

[DinkumDog]

that harper collins revenue is down btw, all revenues are down, netflix revenue $25B, murdoch losing money everywhere, foxtel cash cow sinking but hanging his hat on $1.67B revenue from a print publisher

he has lost this media battle just like when he bought myspace for half a billion

Of course revenue is down.
It’s down everywhere.
A little pandemic caused that.

Of course he’s made mistakes and MySpace was one of them - but News is still not a ‘sinking ship’ no matter which way you slice it.

Netflix burn cash like I’ve never seen.
$25bn revenue for $1.9bn profit - less than 0.01%.

They can’t keep putting up the price either - Disney+ is half the price of Netflix. It’s going to catch up with them sooner or later.

 

[Cook]

Huh?
Rupes is pretty good with numbers.
If the original publicly available NBN plan was so grossly under-costed (it was) - why the need to lobby to ‘dumb it down’? The facts are a nowhere near complete network could’ve been built under the original costing and rollout plan.

I’m not blaming Labor - it was an ambitious project - just poorly executed. Abbott was equally wrong when he said no-one would ever need more than 12mb/s.

It’s just not as simple as you’re trying to make it out to be. The NBN plan did not change purely because of Murdoch and the Coalition and that’s indisputable.

Didn’t you hear, Murdoch is to blame for everything.

 

[DinkumDog]

Motherfuckers took down sport bible as well... I’m ready to throw hands

iT’s A mSm cOnSpIrAcY .