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News Curtis Scott arrested after Moore Park incident

Lov_Dog

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I wonder how different the video footage is to Jack Wighton's street fighter impersonation 2 years ago?
Granted Wighton was not fighting constabulary, and despite that he received 10-match ban and $10K fine.
 

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Nope, thats not how it works.

No offence but you dont really know what you are talking about, but will keep arguing the point anyway, so we are going to have to agree to disagree.
He has a tendancy to argue in this manner, very foolish.
 

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OK, I understand that you truly believe that to be the case, but can you please explain it to me because I have read everything available on the no fault stand down policy and I can't see any other interpretation. Help me out here, please.

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Is there a face palm emoji anyone??

Sorry to butt in. Continue to enjoy posting.. lol
 

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OK, I understand that you truly believe that to be the case, but can you please explain it to me because I have read everything available on the no fault stand down policy and I can't see any other interpretation. Help me out here, please.

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I think there appears to be a general misunderstanding in relation to how the ‘no fault stand down’ policy works.

When a player is charged with a substantive offence (most serious of offences charged) carrying a maximum of 11 years or more of imprisonment, they are automatically stood down ie De Belin. This is not discretionary.

When the substantive offence is less than 11 years, the NRL has a discretion as to whether to stand that player down. The NRL has indicated when the offence is domestic violence, or includes harm against women, then they will apply this discretion positively.

Although Scott was charged with numerous offences, the substantive offence of (common) assault officer in execution of duty is 5 years

In my view, the fact Scott was charged with a number of offences, plus the offending includes violence against law official should be sufficient for the discretion to stand him down. It goes to his port character and bad look for the game. I’m not sure why he has opted not to, generally the rule doesn’t fall on the strength of the police case, however I would say there is body worn footage and a number of officers (witnesses) present, it sounds like a solid case.

Obviously, Scott has plead not guilty means either he didn’t assault police or raise a self-defence argument (ie police were aggressors and he needed to protect himself).

I am fairly confident police would not have charged had the body worn not have favorited their version of events.

Hope this helps.
 
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I have to wonder given the NRL is allowing him to play, and his lawyer is pretty confident about his chances (Sam Macedone isn't one to play the media is he?) and both have seen the video footage that indeed there isn't much in it?
 

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I have to wonder given the NRL is allowing him to play, and his lawyer is pretty confident about his chances (Sam Macedone isn't one to play the media is he?) and both have seen the video footage that indeed there isn't much in it?
Based on the conduct of Greenberg previously, I would say Greenberg has allowed him to play due to the lack of media attention and controversy the incident has attracted (which Greenberg has been guilty of falling trap to previously).

I am fairly confident the police case would be a a strong one given the incident was captured on body-worn camera.
 

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I think there appears to be a general misunderstanding in relation to how the ‘no fault stand down’ policy works.

When a player is charged with a substantive offence (most serious of offences charged) carrying a maximum of 11 years or more of imprisonment, they are automatically stood down ie De Belin. This is not discretionary.

When the substantive offence is less than 11 years, the NRL has a discretion as to whether to stand that player down. The NRL has indicated when the offence is domestic violence, or includes harm against women, then they will apply this discretion positively.

Although Scott was charged with numerous offences, the substantive offence of (common) assault officer in execution of duty is 5 years

In my view, the fact Scott was charged with a number of offences, plus the offending includes violence against law official should be sufficient for the discretion to stand him down. It goes to his port character and bad look for the game. I’m not sure why he has opted not to, generally the rule doesn’t fall on the strength of the police case, however I would say there is body worn footage and a number of officers (witnesses) present, it sounds like a solid case.

Obviously, Scott has plead not guilty means either he didn’t assault police or raise a self-defence argument (ie police were aggressors and he needed to protect himself).

I am fairly confident police would not have charged had the body worn not have favorited their version of events.

Hope this helps.
Thank you, finally, someone who interprets the NRL no fault stand down policy in the same way as I do.

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I think there appears to be a general misunderstanding in relation to how the ‘no fault stand down’ policy works.

When a player is charged with a substantive offence (most serious of offences charged) carrying a maximum of 11 years or more of imprisonment, they are automatically stood down ie De Belin. This is not discretionary.

When the substantive offence is less than 11 years, the NRL has a discretion as to whether to stand that player down. The NRL has indicated when the offence is domestic violence, or includes harm against women, then they will apply this discretion positively.

Although Scott was charged with numerous offences, the substantive offence of (common) assault officer in execution of duty is 5 years

In my view, the fact Scott was charged with a number of offences, plus the offending includes violence against law official should be sufficient for the discretion to stand him down. It goes to his port character and bad look for the game. I’m not sure why he has opted not to, generally the rule doesn’t fall on the strength of the police case, however I would say there is body worn footage and a number of officers (witnesses) present, it sounds like a solid case.

Obviously, Scott has plead not guilty means either he didn’t assault police or raise a self-defence argument (ie police were aggressors and he needed to protect himself).

I am fairly confident police would not have charged had the body worn not have favorited their version of events.

Hope this helps.
I understand it, it's still a ridiculously stupid policy though imo
 

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Canberra centre Curtis Scott has had five of seven charges – including assaulting police – withdrawn after a magistrate declared his arrest in January "unlawful".

Scott was handcuffed and arrested by police at Moore Park on the Australia Day weekend earlier this year after attempts to wake him while he was slumped against a tree failed.

The 22-year-old was accused of assaulting two officers before being Tasered and taken to Surry Hills Police Station.

Following the tendering of police bodycam footage in court on Wednesday, Magistrate Jennifer Giles said: "It is drawing a very long, frightening bow to argue that police can handcuff someone they are trying to wake up while sleeping under a tree that is not under arrest."

Scott is due to return to court later this week for sentencing on the two charges he had already pleaded guilty to, behaving in an offensive manner near a public place.

Argument over legal costs will also take place then, while he is currently sidelined with a leg injury.

Scott has played throughout 2020 while his legal matter has been ongoing.

His form has been down at times since arriving from Melbourne over summer but he is expected to come back into the selection frame for the Raiders' round-19 clash with the Warriors.

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Another incident now making the Police look bad...
 

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Canberra centre Curtis Scott has had five of seven charges – including assaulting police – withdrawn after a magistrate declared his arrest in January "unlawful".

Scott was handcuffed and arrested by police at Moore Park on the Australia Day weekend earlier this year after attempts to wake him while he was slumped against a tree failed.

The 22-year-old was accused of assaulting two officers before being Tasered and taken to Surry Hills Police Station.

Following the tendering of police bodycam footage in court on Wednesday, Magistrate Jennifer Giles said: "It is drawing a very long, frightening bow to argue that police can handcuff someone they are trying to wake up while sleeping under a tree that is not under arrest."

Scott is due to return to court later this week for sentencing on the two charges he had already pleaded guilty to, behaving in an offensive manner near a public place.

Argument over legal costs will also take place then, while he is currently sidelined with a leg injury.

Scott has played throughout 2020 while his legal matter has been ongoing.

His form has been down at times since arriving from Melbourne over summer but he is expected to come back into the selection frame for the Raiders' round-19 clash with the Warriors.

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Another incident now making the Police look bad...
Combine a lawyer who specialises in getting shitbags out of assault and alcohol related charges and a sympathetic magistrate and you could get off most charges tbh.
 

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Combine a lawyer who specialises in getting shitbags out of assault and alcohol related charges and a sympathetic magistrate and you could get off most charges tbh.
Dunno anything about this magistrate, does she have form?
 

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Dunno anything about this magistrate, does she have form?
No idea tbh. Just going off her comments.

There's always some technically... probably also highlights how poorly trained cops continue to be as well
 

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If anyone saw the video played before the courts, you'd realise he was actually innocent and the police officers in question were morons. I hope he now takes further action personally against the officers who played part in his arrest.

He was handcuffed, repeatedly punched in the back without any means of defending himself and pepper-sprayed. One cop even had the audacity to mock Scott for writhing in pain as the spray burned his eyes as he laughed and said “Come on mate, it’s not that bad’
 
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Just saw the video. Fuken shameful. Idiots.
Same, how is that not assault by the cops?

They accuse home of lashing out when he's simply saying "I've done nothing wrong". Then taser him a couple of times for "lashing out".
 

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Same, how is that not assault by the cops?

They accuse home of lashing out when he's simply saying "I've done nothing wrong". Then taser him a couple of times for "lashing out".
I dare say they will be getting in a fair bit of trouble over this.
 

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I have to admit when the news first broke at the start of the year I was thinking what a piss head and prejudged.

Fair enough he was drunk that night. Apparently caused some damage to property (did he do something to a bike?). But his arrest was completely unlawful. He was maced and tasered while half passed out and handcuffed. And was not a threat to anyone.

I am always a person who thinks police have it tough and deserve respect. But these cops were absolute pigs and spoil it for the rest. I hope he does sue and these officers are reprimanded because I’m sure the next guy that wasn’t an nrl player would cop the same treatment yet it gets swept under the carpet.

Sad that people we trust with protecting us put us in unnecessary danger like this.

He doesn’t look like such a big dickhead now. Hope he can get back to some form now that this is over.
 
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