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Will you get the Vaccine?

  • Yes, I plan too

    Votes: 13 8.4%
  • Yes, already 1st dose

    Votes: 18 11.6%
  • Yes, I am 100% vaxxed

    Votes: 93 60.0%
  • No

    Votes: 21 13.5%
  • Indecisive

    Votes: 10 6.5%

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Haven’t you heard, Or seen our adds? :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: Guess you wouldn’t of ... but we are kicking Covids ass here in NZ.!! You all take care over there brothers, let’s hope it stays contained.!!
 

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Haven’t you heard, Or seen our adds? :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: Guess you wouldn’t of ... but we are kicking Covids ass here in NZ.!! You all take care over there brothers, let’s hope it stays contained.!!
Its all good as long as you don't have your boarder shut on September 1st should be good .knowing my luck that day it will fucking happen lol
 

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Its all good as long as you don't have your boarder shut on September 1st should be good .knowing my luck that day it will fucking happen lol
It’s very likely South, but you never know mate .!!
 

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well the website says to get tested for covid if you have a runny nose so yeah i just want to be a good boy and make sure i’m following
You could get tested or not, getting tested just helps to make sure we don't have cases in the community which helps us live normal as possible pandemic life.
It's entirely you're choice, i find it odd though you will not get tested or have any desire to get tested but you are making an issue over something you have no intentions to do anyway
 

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You could get tested or not, getting tested just helps to make sure we don't have cases in the community which helps us live normal as possible pandemic life.
It's entirely you're choice, i find it odd though you will not get tested or have any desire to get tested but you are making an issue over something you have no intentions to do anyway
problem is i could have had it 2 weeks ago and not known and test positive for it tomorrow due to having it 2 weeks ago so you know..just want to make sure
 

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Must be all the fluoride keeping everyone docile how everyone still believes this lol
 

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So we’ve now had alleged cases right before Christmas, New Years, Easter, now Mother’s Day and then eid next week
Suss?
 

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I'll happily pay for you to go to India for 2 weeks plus expenses if you come back with proof it don't exist I'll throw in 15k
Why are they extending the restrictions if there are no cases?
maybe cause no one is taking their poison, and why is no one talking about the blood clots from the vaccines
 

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Why are they extending the restrictions if there are no cases?
That's a reasonable question that can be debated.

maybe cause no one is taking their poison,
Who is no one ? And what poison are you talking about

and why is no one talking about the blood clots from the vaccines

There's plenty of talk about the blood clots of vaccines how many millions of people died from covid? How many millions have been sick?
How many millions have had the jab? How many have died or got sick
 

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lol you don’t know what the longer term effects are

you also obviously think it’s ok for a small percentage of people die from it even though 2/3 of the worlds epidemiologists say the vaccine will be useless by the end of the year.

It’s also been stated that by having the vaccine it doesn’t mean you can’t pass the virus on anyway. There’s a reason healthcare workers aren’t having it.

Maybe take your mum to get it, if she dies then that’s cool, because millions more die from covid.

I’ll take you up on the free trip to india, let me know when you’ve got the money ready and i’ll let you know when i’m free.
 

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lol you don’t know what the longer term effects are

you also obviously think it’s ok for a small percentage of people die from it even though 2/3 of the worlds epidemiologists say the vaccine will be useless by the end of the year.

It’s also been stated that by having the vaccine it doesn’t mean you can’t pass the virus on anyway. There’s a reason healthcare workers aren’t having it.

Maybe take your mum to get it, if she dies then that’s cool, because millions more die from covid.

I’ll take you up on the free trip to india, let me know when you’ve got the money ready and i’ll let you know when i’m free.
As opposed to the short term and long term effects of covid?
Where did I say i think its ok for people to die? A small percentage of people will die having reactions going into surgery ,yes my parents are having the shot as soon as they can which I think is in a few weeks they are very aware there's a small chance they can have a reaction.like anything
" there's a reason why health care workers aren't having it" what health care worker's none ? Half Where's the study on this would be interesting to see .
Also Where's the study of 2/3 of epidemiologists think the vaccine will be useless by years end?
 

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lol you don’t know what the longer term effects are

you also obviously think it’s ok for a small percentage of people die from it even though 2/3 of the worlds epidemiologists say the vaccine will be useless by the end of the year.

It’s also been stated that by having the vaccine it doesn’t mean you can’t pass the virus on anyway. There’s a reason healthcare workers aren’t having it.

Maybe take your mum to get it, if she dies then that’s cool, because millions more die from covid.

I’ll take you up on the free trip to india, let me know when you’ve got the money ready and i’ll let you know when i’m free.
Is this the 2/3 you were referring to?
Two-thirds of epidemiologists warn mutations could render current COVID vaccines ineffective in a year or less; New survey from People’s Vaccine Alliance shows urgency of vaccinating all countries
 

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Sorry the link was broken Here's the 2/3 story and the importance of the world being vaccinated
Two-thirds of epidemiologists warn mutations could render current COVID vaccines ineffective in a year or less; New survey from People’s Vaccine Alliance shows urgency of vaccinating all countriesFormatView original

Epidemiologists from some of the world’s leading academic institutions delivered a stark warning today of the risk the world is taking by failing to ensure all countries have sufficient vaccines to protect people from COVID-19. In a survey of 77 epidemiologists from 28 countries, carried out by The People’s Vaccine Alliance, two-thirds thought that we had a year or less before the virus mutates to the extent that the majority of first-generation vaccines are rendered ineffective and new or modified vaccines are required. Of those surveyed, almost a third gave a timeframe of nine months or less. Fewer than one in eight said they believed that mutations would never render the current vaccines ineffective.

The overwhelming majority - 88 per cent - said that persistent low vaccine coverage in many countries would make it more likely for vaccine resistant mutations to appear.

The People’s Vaccine Alliance, a coalition of over 50 organisations including African Alliance, Oxfam, Public Citizen and UNAIDS warned that at the current rate it was likely that only 10 per cent of people in the majority of poor countries will be vaccinated in the next year.

Nearly three-quarters of those surveyed - who included epidemiologists, virologists and infectious disease specialists from institutions including Johns Hopkins, Yale, Imperial College, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Cambridge University, the University of Edinburgh and The University of Cape Town - said that open sharing of technology and intellectual property could increase global vaccine coverage. The People's Vaccine Alliance is calling for the lifting of pharmaceutical monopolies and the sharing of technology to urgently boost vaccine supply.

Devi Sridhar, Professor of Global Public Health at the University of Edinburgh, said: “The more the virus circulates, the more likely it is that mutations and variants will emerge, which could make our current vaccines ineffective. At the same time, poor countries are being left behind without vaccines and basic medical supplies like oxygen.

“As we've learned, viruses don't care about borders. We have to vaccinate as many people as possible, everywhere in the world, as quickly as possible. Why wait and watch instead of getting ahead of this?”

While he didn’t specify a timeframe, Gregg Gonsalves, Associate Professor of Epidemiology at Yale University, echoed the urgency to vaccinate globally. Gonsalves said: “With millions of people around the world infected with this virus, new mutations arise every day. Sometimes they find a niche that makes them more fit than their predecessors. These lucky variants could transmit more efficiently and potentially evade immune responses to previous strains. Unless we vaccinate the world, we leave the playing field open to more and more mutations, which could churn out variants that could evade our current vaccines and require booster shots to deal with them.

“We all have a self-interest in ensuring that everyone around the world, no matter where they live have access to COVID-19 vaccines. The virus doesn’t respect borders and new variants somewhere on the planet mean none of us are safe.”

Quarraisha Abdool Karim, Associate Scientific Director of CAPRISA and Professor in Clinical Epidemiology at Columbia University, said: “As nations start to expand their vaccination programmes we are once again reminded about our inter-dependence. High coverage rates and herd immunity in one country or region of the world while others, particularly low- and middle-income countries, continue to wait in line will create the perfect environment for the virus to continue to mutate and negate the benefits of any vaccine protection.

“In contrast, there are enormous benefits for everyone to have more equitable access to available doses of vaccines and achieve herd immunity globally sooner. As scientists, advocates, and decision-makers we must ensure that as many people are vaccinated all over the world and as soon as possible so that we can all focus our efforts in rebuilding our communities, livelihoods, and economies and know that we are all safe from COVID-19 and be better prepared for the next pandemic.”

The survey shows that it is imperative for the safety of all citizens in all countries that people in developing countries are vaccinated as soon as possible. Failure to tackle global vaccine inequality heightens the risk of further mutations.

Despite this imperative, rich country defence of the monopolies of pharmaceutical giants mean that global supplies are being artificially rationed, with a handful of companies deciding who lives and who dies. Earlier this month, rich countries blocked a proposal to waive intellectual property rights for COVID-19 vaccines. The People’s Vaccine Alliance urges them to reconsider when talks resume at the World Trade Organisation in April.

The Alliance is also calling for all pharmaceutical corporations working on COVID-19 vaccines to openly share their technology and intellectual property through the World Health Organization COVID-19 Technology Access Pool, in order to speed up and ramp up the production and rollout of vaccines to all countries.

Anna Marriott, Oxfam’s Health Policy Manager, said: “In many rich nations, vaccinated people are starting to feel safer, but unless we vaccinate all nations, there is a huge risk that the protection offered by vaccines will be shattered by fresh mutations.

“This survey highlights that we need a people’s vaccine, not only to protect people in the world’s poorest countries, but to ensure that people all over the world who’ve already been vaccinated aren’t put at risk again.”

Current vaccines appear to be at least partially effective against existing mutations but where new vaccines are needed it will take many months before they are approved for use and even longer to begin rolling them out. In the meantime, lockdowns and travel bans will continue to be the main protections against rising infections and fatalities. New vaccine recipes will also be subject to the same pharmaceutical monopolies, further restricting access for the rest of the world. Dr Mohga Kamal Yanni, Senior Health Policy Advisor to The People Vaccine Alliance, said: “If we were in a war with a country called COVID, would governments leave vital decisions on production, supply and price in the hands of arms producing companies?

“Given vaccines are our most crucial weapon in the fight against COVID-19, world leaders must take control to enable the World Health Organisation’s COVID Technology Access Pool to facilitate sharing of technology and Intellectual Property so that all capable companies can maximise global vaccine production.”
 
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