Covid-19 related debates (argue in this thread only)

[Bob dog]

Will a two week lockdown fix anything?
I don't think the Government want the economy affected.
Shame all previous efforts have gone to waste.

 

[AlzzBulldog]

36 dead yesterday … 33 vaxxed…

 

[Dogna88]

36 dead yesterday … 33 vaxxed…

Ok now work it out as a percentage of their own category.

Bricky tried the "raw number game" yesterday... failed miserably.


And if you wouldn't mind. Just curiously. You wouldnt be relying on 1 day of data to support your argument would you?

 

[DinkumDog]

Ok now work it out as a percentage of their own category.

Bricky tried the "raw number game" yesterday... failed miserably.


And if you wouldn't mind. Just curiously. You wouldnt be relying on 1 day of data to support your argument would you?

Don’t hold your breath mate. @AlzzBulldog is famous for dropping in random comments and when challenged disappears like a fart into the wind…

 

[belmore_utd]

Ok now work it out as a percentage of their own category.

Bricky tried the "raw number game" yesterday... failed miserably.


And if you wouldn't mind. Just curiously. You wouldnt be relying on 1 day of data to support your argument would you?

I think we’re due for a dose of perspective.

I can feel the mood at the moment.

Everyone could do with a bit of positivity.

And frankly - some of the alarmism about coronavirus is over the top.

Yes, we know it’s not to be ignored.

We know we have to get vaccinated and take precautions.

But we’re sick of the doomsday predictions.

NSW is not in a crisis.

We’re not in lockdown.

We are learning to live with the virus.

Some people have short memories.

Vaccines were our ticket to freedom.

Our leaders promised we would get our lives back, if we got the jab.

Restrictions were supposed to ease at 80% double dose.

NSW is now at almost 95%.

But it seems some people want the goal-posts moved again.

It sounds like they'd prefer another year locked up at home.

Well that’s up to them.

But I’m very keen to move on with my life.

The whole point of the vaccine was to treat COVID like the flu.

Case numbers are meant to now be irrelevant.

What really matters is - hospitalisations and intensive care.

Right now there are 339,000 people with coronavirus in NSW.

More than 99% are mild enough to be treated from home.

Omicron is highly contagious, but it’s the mildest COVID strain yet.

Up to 5 times weaker than Delta.

We spoke to the South African doctor who discovered Omicron in November.

Dr Angelique Coetzee described Omicron as “very mild” with a “low chance of hospitalisation”... even in the unvaccinated.

She told us that on day 1!

In NSW your chances of dying from coronavirus is 0.1%

The odds of going to hospital is 0.8%

The odds of ending up in intensive care is 0.05%

And our obsession with COVID has seen us lose sight of far more sinister diseases.

There’s new data out from the Bureau of Statistics.

Last year between January and October… 125,000 Australians passed away.

Coronavirus represented, just 1.3% of our deaths.

1,671 in total.

Almost 75% of our COVID victims had underlying health issues.

But in the same period that COVID killed 1,671.

41,000 Australians from cancer.

13,000 from Dementia and Alzheimer’s

11,600 from heart disease.

7,000 from strokes and brain aneurisms.

4,000 from diabetes.

2,500 from suicide.

1,800 from drug overdoses.

And almost 2,000 from accidental falls.

Or to break it down even further.

Yesterday- NSW Health reported the death of 17 people with coronavirus.

Again, absolutely tragic for the families of those who died.

But here’s the reality check.

On the same day 17 people died from coronavirus in NSW - an estimated 136 Australians died of cancer.

There are serious health issues that have been neglected - because of our one track mind about COVID.

A disease with a death rate in Australia… of 0.1%

Ergo a pandemic of accidental falls

 

[Natboy]

I think we’re due for a dose of perspective.

I can feel the mood at the moment.

Everyone could do with a bit of positivity.

And frankly - some of the alarmism about coronavirus is over the top.

Yes, we know it’s not to be ignored.

We know we have to get vaccinated and take precautions.

But we’re sick of the doomsday predictions.

NSW is not in a crisis.

We’re not in lockdown.

We are learning to live with the virus.

Some people have short memories.

Vaccines were our ticket to freedom.

Our leaders promised we would get our lives back, if we got the jab.

Restrictions were supposed to ease at 80% double dose.

NSW is now at almost 95%.

But it seems some people want the goal-posts moved again.

It sounds like they'd prefer another year locked up at home.

Well that’s up to them.

But I’m very keen to move on with my life.

The whole point of the vaccine was to treat COVID like the flu.

Case numbers are meant to now be irrelevant.

What really matters is - hospitalisations and intensive care.

Right now there are 339,000 people with coronavirus in NSW.

More than 99% are mild enough to be treated from home.

Omicron is highly contagious, but it’s the mildest COVID strain yet.

Up to 5 times weaker than Delta.

We spoke to the South African doctor who discovered Omicron in November.

Dr Angelique Coetzee described Omicron as “very mild” with a “low chance of hospitalisation”... even in the unvaccinated.

She told us that on day 1!

In NSW your chances of dying from coronavirus is 0.1%

The odds of going to hospital is 0.8%

The odds of ending up in intensive care is 0.05%

And our obsession with COVID has seen us lose sight of far more sinister diseases.

There’s new data out from the Bureau of Statistics.

Last year between January and October… 125,000 Australians passed away.

Coronavirus represented, just 1.3% of our deaths.

1,671 in total.

Almost 75% of our COVID victims had underlying health issues.

But in the same period that COVID killed 1,671.

41,000 Australians from cancer.

13,000 from Dementia and Alzheimer’s

11,600 from heart disease.

7,000 from strokes and brain aneurisms.

4,000 from diabetes.

2,500 from suicide.

1,800 from drug overdoses.

And almost 2,000 from accidental falls.

Or to break it down even further.

Yesterday- NSW Health reported the death of 17 people with coronavirus.

Again, absolutely tragic for the families of those who died.

But here’s the reality check.

On the same day 17 people died from coronavirus in NSW - an estimated 136 Australians died of cancer.

There are serious health issues that have been neglected - because of our one track mind about COVID.

A disease with a death rate in Australia… of 0.1%

Ergo a pandemic of accidental falls

Great post mate. Well done

 

[Dogna88]

I think we’re due for a dose of perspective.

I can feel the mood at the moment.

Everyone could do with a bit of positivity.

And frankly - some of the alarmism about coronavirus is over the top.

Yes, we know it’s not to be ignored.

We know we have to get vaccinated and take precautions.

But we’re sick of the doomsday predictions.

NSW is not in a crisis.

We’re not in lockdown.

We are learning to live with the virus.

Some people have short memories.

Vaccines were our ticket to freedom.

Our leaders promised we would get our lives back, if we got the jab.

Restrictions were supposed to ease at 80% double dose.

NSW is now at almost 95%.

But it seems some people want the goal-posts moved again.

It sounds like they'd prefer another year locked up at home.

Well that’s up to them.

But I’m very keen to move on with my life.

The whole point of the vaccine was to treat COVID like the flu.

Case numbers are meant to now be irrelevant.

What really matters is - hospitalisations and intensive care.

Right now there are 339,000 people with coronavirus in NSW.

More than 99% are mild enough to be treated from home.

Omicron is highly contagious, but it’s the mildest COVID strain yet.

Up to 5 times weaker than Delta.

We spoke to the South African doctor who discovered Omicron in November.

Dr Angelique Coetzee described Omicron as “very mild” with a “low chance of hospitalisation”... even in the unvaccinated.

She told us that on day 1!

In NSW your chances of dying from coronavirus is 0.1%

The odds of going to hospital is 0.8%

The odds of ending up in intensive care is 0.05%

And our obsession with COVID has seen us lose sight of far more sinister diseases.

There’s new data out from the Bureau of Statistics.

Last year between January and October… 125,000 Australians passed away.

Coronavirus represented, just 1.3% of our deaths.

1,671 in total.

Almost 75% of our COVID victims had underlying health issues.

But in the same period that COVID killed 1,671.

41,000 Australians from cancer.

13,000 from Dementia and Alzheimer’s

11,600 from heart disease.

7,000 from strokes and brain aneurisms.

4,000 from diabetes.

2,500 from suicide.

1,800 from drug overdoses.

And almost 2,000 from accidental falls.

Or to break it down even further.

Yesterday- NSW Health reported the death of 17 people with coronavirus.

Again, absolutely tragic for the families of those who died.

But here’s the reality check.

On the same day 17 people died from coronavirus in NSW - an estimated 136 Australians died of cancer.

There are serious health issues that have been neglected - because of our one track mind about COVID.

A disease with a death rate in Australia… of 0.1%

Ergo a pandemic of accidental falls

Yup. Look at the non-argument covid thread. I agree.

But it has nothing to do with my post.

My response was to Alzz' post and what he is insinuating

 

[belmore_utd]

Yup. Look at the non-argument covid thread. I agree.

But it has nothing to do with my post.

My response was to Alzz' post and what he is insinuating

Oh you mean the echo chamber thread?

Thought you wanted to play the raw numbers game?

 

[Dogna88]

Oh you mean the echo chamber thread?

Thought you wanted to play the raw numbers game?

No. I dont play the raw numbers game.

Thats the whole point.

Thats what Alzz and Bricky did.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Will a two week lockdown fix anything?
I don't think the Government want the economy affected.
Shame all previous efforts have gone to waste.

Probably not. It's full blown spread now. Lockdown would have very little effect.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

I think we’re due for a dose of perspective.

I can feel the mood at the moment.

Everyone could do with a bit of positivity.

And frankly - some of the alarmism about coronavirus is over the top.

Yes, we know it’s not to be ignored.

We know we have to get vaccinated and take precautions.

But we’re sick of the doomsday predictions.

NSW is not in a crisis.

We’re not in lockdown.

We are learning to live with the virus.

Some people have short memories.

Vaccines were our ticket to freedom.

Our leaders promised we would get our lives back, if we got the jab.

Restrictions were supposed to ease at 80% double dose.

NSW is now at almost 95%.

But it seems some people want the goal-posts moved again.

It sounds like they'd prefer another year locked up at home.

Well that’s up to them.

But I’m very keen to move on with my life.

The whole point of the vaccine was to treat COVID like the flu.

Case numbers are meant to now be irrelevant.

What really matters is - hospitalisations and intensive care.

Right now there are 339,000 people with coronavirus in NSW.

More than 99% are mild enough to be treated from home.

Omicron is highly contagious, but it’s the mildest COVID strain yet.

Up to 5 times weaker than Delta.

We spoke to the South African doctor who discovered Omicron in November.

Dr Angelique Coetzee described Omicron as “very mild” with a “low chance of hospitalisation”... even in the unvaccinated.

She told us that on day 1!

In NSW your chances of dying from coronavirus is 0.1%

The odds of going to hospital is 0.8%

The odds of ending up in intensive care is 0.05%

And our obsession with COVID has seen us lose sight of far more sinister diseases.

There’s new data out from the Bureau of Statistics.

Last year between January and October… 125,000 Australians passed away.

Coronavirus represented, just 1.3% of our deaths.

1,671 in total.

Almost 75% of our COVID victims had underlying health issues.

But in the same period that COVID killed 1,671.

41,000 Australians from cancer.

13,000 from Dementia and Alzheimer’s

11,600 from heart disease.

7,000 from strokes and brain aneurisms.

4,000 from diabetes.

2,500 from suicide.

1,800 from drug overdoses.

And almost 2,000 from accidental falls.

Or to break it down even further.

Yesterday- NSW Health reported the death of 17 people with coronavirus.

Again, absolutely tragic for the families of those who died.

But here’s the reality check.

On the same day 17 people died from coronavirus in NSW - an estimated 136 Australians died of cancer.

There are serious health issues that have been neglected - because of our one track mind about COVID.

A disease with a death rate in Australia… of 0.1%

Ergo a pandemic of accidental falls

True

 

[N4TE]

Just got my third like 10 minutes ago instead of waiting 15 minutes I’m at Summer Hill pub.

 

[Natboy]

Just got my third like 10 minutes ago instead of waiting 15 minutes I’m at Summer Hill pub.

Love it. I did the same and numbs the arm haha. Enjoy mate

 

[N4TE]

Love it. I did the same and numbs the arm haha. Enjoy mate

If I drop dead least they can say he died doing what he loved..

 

[DinkumDog]

I think we’re due for a dose of perspective.

I can feel the mood at the moment.

Everyone could do with a bit of positivity.

And frankly - some of the alarmism about coronavirus is over the top.

Yes, we know it’s not to be ignored.

We know we have to get vaccinated and take precautions.

But we’re sick of the doomsday predictions.

NSW is not in a crisis.

We’re not in lockdown.

We are learning to live with the virus.

Some people have short memories.

Vaccines were our ticket to freedom.

Our leaders promised we would get our lives back, if we got the jab.

Restrictions were supposed to ease at 80% double dose.

NSW is now at almost 95%.

But it seems some people want the goal-posts moved again.

It sounds like they'd prefer another year locked up at home.

Well that’s up to them.

But I’m very keen to move on with my life.

The whole point of the vaccine was to treat COVID like the flu.

Case numbers are meant to now be irrelevant.

What really matters is - hospitalisations and intensive care.

Right now there are 339,000 people with coronavirus in NSW.

More than 99% are mild enough to be treated from home.

Omicron is highly contagious, but it’s the mildest COVID strain yet.

Up to 5 times weaker than Delta.

We spoke to the South African doctor who discovered Omicron in November.

Dr Angelique Coetzee described Omicron as “very mild” with a “low chance of hospitalisation”... even in the unvaccinated.

She told us that on day 1!

In NSW your chances of dying from coronavirus is 0.1%

The odds of going to hospital is 0.8%

The odds of ending up in intensive care is 0.05%

And our obsession with COVID has seen us lose sight of far more sinister diseases.

There’s new data out from the Bureau of Statistics.

Last year between January and October… 125,000 Australians passed away.

Coronavirus represented, just 1.3% of our deaths.

1,671 in total.

Almost 75% of our COVID victims had underlying health issues.

But in the same period that COVID killed 1,671.

41,000 Australians from cancer.

13,000 from Dementia and Alzheimer’s

11,600 from heart disease.

7,000 from strokes and brain aneurisms.

4,000 from diabetes.

2,500 from suicide.

1,800 from drug overdoses.

And almost 2,000 from accidental falls.

Or to break it down even further.

Yesterday- NSW Health reported the death of 17 people with coronavirus.

Again, absolutely tragic for the families of those who died.

But here’s the reality check.

On the same day 17 people died from coronavirus in NSW - an estimated 136 Australians died of cancer.

There are serious health issues that have been neglected - because of our one track mind about COVID.

A disease with a death rate in Australia… of 0.1%

Ergo a pandemic of accidental falls

By far the most sensible post I’ve seen you make on this topic - well done. I don’t know anyone who lives in fear.Yes some are overly cautious but pretty much everyone I know including me just exercise common sense and are getting on with our lives.

I’m not critical of anyones personal decision not to vax - what I speak out against is the bullshit being spread which can cause damage whether that’s health, financial or both. There’s been multiple reports of those who spread crap who’ve gone on to contract the Rona (pre-Omicron) and die and that’s no way to treat each other. Other than that, the sooner this thing is in the rear view mirror the better for everyone - obviously.

 

[Doogie]

I think we’re due for a dose of perspective.

I can feel the mood at the moment.

Everyone could do with a bit of positivity.

And frankly - some of the alarmism about coronavirus is over the top.

Yes, we know it’s not to be ignored.

We know we have to get vaccinated and take precautions.

But we’re sick of the doomsday predictions.

NSW is not in a crisis.

We’re not in lockdown.

We are learning to live with the virus.

Some people have short memories.

Vaccines were our ticket to freedom.

Our leaders promised we would get our lives back, if we got the jab.

Restrictions were supposed to ease at 80% double dose.

NSW is now at almost 95%.

But it seems some people want the goal-posts moved again.

It sounds like they'd prefer another year locked up at home.

Well that’s up to them.

But I’m very keen to move on with my life.

The whole point of the vaccine was to treat COVID like the flu.

Case numbers are meant to now be irrelevant.

What really matters is - hospitalisations and intensive care.

Right now there are 339,000 people with coronavirus in NSW.

More than 99% are mild enough to be treated from home.

Omicron is highly contagious, but it’s the mildest COVID strain yet.

Up to 5 times weaker than Delta.

We spoke to the South African doctor who discovered Omicron in November.

Dr Angelique Coetzee described Omicron as “very mild” with a “low chance of hospitalisation”... even in the unvaccinated.

She told us that on day 1!

In NSW your chances of dying from coronavirus is 0.1%

The odds of going to hospital is 0.8%

The odds of ending up in intensive care is 0.05%

And our obsession with COVID has seen us lose sight of far more sinister diseases.

There’s new data out from the Bureau of Statistics.

Last year between January and October… 125,000 Australians passed away.

Coronavirus represented, just 1.3% of our deaths.

1,671 in total.

Almost 75% of our COVID victims had underlying health issues.

But in the same period that COVID killed 1,671.

41,000 Australians from cancer.

13,000 from Dementia and Alzheimer’s

11,600 from heart disease.

7,000 from strokes and brain aneurisms.

4,000 from diabetes.

2,500 from suicide.

1,800 from drug overdoses.

And almost 2,000 from accidental falls.

Or to break it down even further.

Yesterday- NSW Health reported the death of 17 people with coronavirus.

Again, absolutely tragic for the families of those who died.

But here’s the reality check.

On the same day 17 people died from coronavirus in NSW - an estimated 136 Australians died of cancer.

There are serious health issues that have been neglected - because of our one track mind about COVID.

A disease with a death rate in Australia… of 0.1%

Ergo a pandemic of accidental falls

Pretty concise and rational statement which goes back to my point a few 1000 posts ago, when does the Govt drop using the Public Health Act to implement actions? Govts with a green light to do whatever they want forever never ends well.

Really surprised by this. There's no way BU wrote this. Unless...

Run out of weed?

 

[Dogna88]

Pretty concise and rational statement which goes back to my point a few 1000 posts ago, when does the Govt drop using the Public Health Act to implement actions? Govts with a green light to do whatever they want forever never ends well.

Really surprised by this. There's no way BU wrote this. Unless...

Run out of weed?

Or mushrooms.

Nar Rod is more the mushie type

 

[Doogie]

Missus just returned from work. Asked her to quietly check on vax status of the people in her ICU (in greater Sydney) a few days ago. 88% of her hospitals ICU are unvaxxed.

Whether they have comorbidities - her response was the vaxxed have some underlying issues, I didn't ask about the unvaxxed. Didn't want more details as its an invasion of privacy as is. And I'm not giving exact numbers for the same reason.

So u can think I'm making this up - your call - DGAF. I know its a reality. Don't care about a number on a website - this is from someone that if you're in her hospital - will bust her gut to save your life. If u don't trust that - you're probably beyond help.

 

[Riggs80]

Conspiracy - how dare they do a study on a existing medication that is easily available

Blood thinner could be used to treat and stop transmission of COVID-19

Initial results of an Australian study indicate the drug Heparin could be “a promising treatment” and also “a possible preventative against the virus” when inhaled.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Dogna88]

Conspiracy - how dare they do a study on a existing medication that is easily available

Blood thinner could be used to treat and stop transmission of COVID-19

Initial results of an Australian study indicate the drug Heparin could be “a promising treatment” and also “a possible preventative against the virus” when inhaled.

www.smh.com.au

I'm waiting for Rod to say herpin is owned by pfizer