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Unfortunately after 26 days in a row without a local transmission, NSW has recorded one..


“The source of the case remains under investigation. Urgent genome sequencing is underway to help determine whether this infection was acquired through work at the hotel quarantine facility or from elsewhere in the community. Results are expected in next 24 hours.”

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I thought they had a rule, as with aged care health workers, that they could only work at one venue?
 

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Doxxing is fucked up. As is harrassing people who are just doing their jobs.

btw I found this line interesting:

Less well-known public health officials around the country, many of them women, have been targeted and harassed.

But earlier this week there seemed to be jokes and laughter and bemusement at another woman being harrassed (and seemingly driven out of her own city of New York), Ivanka Trump, simply for being the daughter of Donald Trump and supporting his political campaign.

No one seems to mind calling her all sorts of names, intimidating her and abusing her, but when it comes to other women who support the democrat side of politics - different story.
There's a huge difference between a health official trying to help others and a self-serving parasite whose only ambition is actively fleece others of their money for their corrupt father's survival. I realise you won't see that difference so we'll put in the column with all those other facts you don't see.
 

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Doxxing is fucked up. As is harrassing people who are just doing their jobs.

btw I found this line interesting:

Less well-known public health officials around the country, many of them women, have been targeted and harassed.

But earlier this week there seemed to be jokes and laughter and bemusement at another woman being harrassed (and seemingly driven out of her own city of New York), Ivanka Trump, simply for being the daughter of Donald Trump and supporting his political campaign.

No one seems to mind calling her all sorts of names, intimidating her and abusing her, but when it comes to other women who support the democrat side of politics - different story.
This, and many other examples of illegal practices as a relative and unqualified presidential assistant to Tdump may have something to do with the scorn that is now arising about her.

 

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There's a huge difference between a health official trying to help others and a self-serving parasite whose only ambition is actively fleece others of their money for their corrupt father's survival. I realise you won't see that difference so we'll put in the column with all those other facts you don't see.
The opposite side of that coin is to say that many health officials have implemented guidelines which have ruined the lives of tens of thousands of small business owners. Many small business owners have lost their livelihoods due to the guidelines.

Does that mean it's now Ok to dox these public officials and intimidate them?

Your argument is completely biased towards one side. Which is why it is far better to simply say that doxxing and intimdating people is never ok, regardless of what you think about their occupation.
 

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The opposite side of that coin is to say that many health officials have implemented guidelines which have ruined the lives of tens of thousands of small business owners. Many small business owners have lost their livelihoods due to the guidelines.

Does that mean it's now Ok to dox these public officials and intimidate them?

Your argument is completely biased towards one side. Which is why it is far better to simply say that doxxing and intimdating people is never ok, regardless of what you think about their occupation.
And your argument is ignorant of the fact one is a health official who is quietly going about their job while the other is a socialite who publicly flaunts where they live, where they go, what they do, why they do it, who they do it with and above all how much it is worth. You are also ignorant of the fact intimidation is what the Trumps, all the Trumps, try and do to everyone else so seeing them get some of their own medicine = boo farking hoo!

We may have to extend your column of ignorance to keep accommodating your ever growing list.
 

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And your argument is ignorant of the fact one is a health official who is quietly going about their job while the other is a socialite who publicly flaunts where they live, where they go, what they do, why they do it, who they do it with and above all how much it is worth. You are also ignorant of the fact intimidation is what the Trumps, all the Trumps, try and do to everyone else so seeing them get some of their own medicine = boo farking hoo!

We may have to extend your column of ignorance to keep accommodating your ever growing list.
So it's Ok to dox someone, but only if they meet certain criteria? Just trying to work out what your standard is.
 

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A lot higher, and far more decent, than yours!
 

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The opposite side of that coin is to say that many health officials have implemented guidelines which have ruined the lives of tens of thousands of small business owners. Many small business owners have lost their livelihoods due to the guidelines.

Does that mean it's now Ok to dox these public officials and intimidate them?

Your argument is completely biased towards one side. Which is why it is far better to simply say that doxxing and intimdating people is never ok, regardless of what you think about their occupation.
Is it really fair a shit ton of American drs an nurses have work day and night not see their family risk sickness and death themselves just to look after some selfish fuck because its his " right " not to wear a mask .its hard enough for them with people doing the right thing
 

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So it's Ok to dox someone, but only if they meet certain criteria? Just trying to work out what your standard is.
Obviously you have no idea what doxxing actually is as you can't dox someone who already publicly flaunts all their personal details.
 

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Is it really fair a shit ton of American drs an nurses have work day and night not see their family risk sickness and death themselves just to look after some selfish fuck because its his " right " not to wear a mask .its hard enough for them with people doing the right thing
Quote from the hippocratic oath taken in Australia.

i.e. Every nurse and doctor signs up to protecting and caring for patients regardless of their background, beliefs, criminality or otherwise.

I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient;
 

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Obviously you have no idea what doxxing actually is as you can't dox someone who already publicly flaunts all their personal details.
I wasn't referring to Ivanka, I'm asking whether you are ok with someone being doxxed if they have particular political beliefs.

As for Ivanka, I think it's a shame that the same people who pretend to be feminists and care about women are so enthusiastic about intimidating and taking joy in the idea they can 'run a woman out of town'.
 

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So it's Ok to dox someone, but only if they meet certain criteria? Just trying to work out what your standard is.
So it's ok to invade a person's most intimate privacy because they don't fit into your little box of gender dichotomy. Just trying to work out how discriminatory your standard is.


#socialism
#USAallCauseMortalityYearOnYear
 

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I wasn't referring to Ivanka, I'm asking whether you are ok with someone being doxxed if they have particular political beliefs.

As for Ivanka, I think it's a shame that the same people who pretend to be feminists and care about women are so enthusiastic about intimidating and taking joy in the idea they can 'run a woman out of town'.
I was and so were you so stop trying to now move the goalposts. You are as transparent as a sheet of glad wrap mate.
 

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Quote from the hippocratic oath taken in Australia.

i.e. Every nurse and doctor signs up to protecting and caring for patients regardless of their background, beliefs, criminality or otherwise.

I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient;
The fuck has that got to do American drs and nurse's and being stretched and frustrated?
 

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Is it really fair a shit ton of American drs an nurses have work day and night not see their family risk sickness and death themselves just to look after some selfish fuck because its his " right " not to wear a mask .its hard enough for them with people doing the right thing
It is beyond being fair or unfair, it borders on criminal. I should qualify that, what I mean is that most laws and ordinances are broken through selfish behaviour. In western democracy everyone is at liberty to do and say anything EXCEPT for such things as would impinge the liberty of others. It is pretty hard to see how that isn't the case here.
 

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So it's ok to invade a person's most intimate privacy because they don't fit into your little box of gender dichotomy. Just trying to work out how discriminatory your standard is.


#socialism
#USAallCauseMortalityYearOnYear
This is my point. Biological Men should go to the men’s bathroom and same for women.
 

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What was that country that certain people keep holding up as the example that there should be no lockdowns? Sweden?

Swedes' support for anti-lockdown stance slips amid rising Covid deaths

A six-monthly poll by Statistics Sweden this week showed support for the prime minister’s centre-left Social Democrats had dropped nearly five percentage points to 29.4% since May, amid signs Swedes are increasingly unconvinced by the country’s strategy.

A survey last week found confidence in authorities’ capacity to control the crisis had fallen sharply to 42% from 55% in October, while 44% of respondents said they felt not enough was being done to fight Covid-19, up from 31% the previous month. More than 80% of those surveyed said they were either “somewhat” or “very worried” that Sweden’s health service would not be able to cope with the challenge.


I just copied and pasted the bit with the evidential data, click here to see the rest of the article. Also in the article was this, which is very interesting:

As the national health agency announced 6,485 new infections and 33 more deaths on Thursday, the prime minister, Stefan Löfven, said the country’s high schools would switch to distance learning from 7 December for the rest of the term.

“This is being done so as to have a slowing effect on the spread of the disease,” Löfven said, adding that the measure was “not an extended break”. What the country did now “will determine how we can celebrate Christmas”, he said.


Pretty soon they will have basically the same policies as the other Scandi countries, just with a higher death count because they waited so long before putting the right measures in place.

And before anyone starts jumping up and down and saying "but the economy", Sweden did worse than the other Scandi ecomonies in the key 2nd Q.
 
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