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You calling me a pig and you’re full blooded Slovenian?
Yeah no worries.
Go have a shower you smelly old pea brained Slav!
Nah. Not calling you a pig. It's a line from a movie, but clearly it's gone straight over your head. All good.

A few things though mate:

I smell? Have a shower? Not a bad idea mate. Will get on that asap. Thanks!

Pea brained? Completely agree. It's like we've known each other for years!

Slav? Nah. That's where I'll draw the line. I'm fucked up but not THAT fucked up. :grinning:
 

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Coincides with the same time antibiotics were established!
Natural antibiotics have been around for ever the first true antibiotic i think was penicillin in the late 20s well after the Spanish flu, I didn't think antibiotics were used to treat such viruses anyway.but don't QUOTE me on it i have little knowledge when it comes to medical science, ill ask @Lov_Dog to help clear this one up
 

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I get my information from the father of understanding lol.

You think doctors and scientists are gods? Lol you bloody atheist!

I get my information by going outside every once in a while.
I only know of one person who says he lost a family member to covid but he reckons the hospital lied and put a covid tag on him.

ive said before I definitely don’t trust doctors and scientists.
I had a virus a few years ago which almost killed me and the doctors couldn’t diagnose it.
That is where I lost 100% faith in doctors and science and realise they’re not perfect like the rest of us!
So... you went from trusting them 100% to trusting them 0%?

I'll give you the tip, most people find some middle ground. Any scientist or doctor is human, and therefore fallible. However just as I'm going to entrust my car to a mechanic with 20+ years experience under his belt keeping cars running because there is less risk they will stuff it up, I'm going to go with what the epidemiologist with 20+ years experience dealing with contagions says, because there is less risk they will stuff it up. Is the risk eliminated? No, and anyone who approaches science or medicine expecting it to be 100% is destined for disappointment. But we have among us people who are here because they came across experts with remarkable training, skill, and knowledge, people like @ASSASSIN and @Mr 95%, and others who would have had substantial reduction in function if it weren't for science and medicine like @utility half. They aren't here because science and medicine is 100%, they are here because science and medicine is doing genuine hard yards to figure stuff out.
 
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So... you went from trusting them 100% to trusting them 0%?

I'll give you the tip, most people find some middle ground. Any scientist or doctor is human, and therefore fallible. However just as I'm going to entrust my car to a mechanic with 20+ years experience under his belt keeping cars running because there is less risk they will stuff it up, I'm going to go with what the epidemiologist with 20+ years experience dealing with contagions says, because there is less risk they will stuff it up. Is the risk eliminated? No, and anyone who approaches science or medicine expecting it to be 100% is destined for disappointment. But we have among us people who are here because they came across experts with remarkable training, skill, and knowledge, people like @ASSASSIN. They aren't here because science and medicine is 100%, they are here because science and medicine is doing genuine hard yards to figure stuff out.
Add me too.. My Doc got me to breathe independently again. One day he stood at the end of my intensive care bed watching me breathe.. He concluded that I breathe differently to others..what he meant by that I don’t know..than using an unpublished science paper..he used the technique to help me breathe.. Thanks to him I have fantastic breathing considering my level of injury!!
 

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These people who don't acknowledge, nor trust, the consensus and overall body of work, and studies, that scientists deliver for the good of mankind are illogical and a menace...asking us to disbelieve everything presented to us by epidemiologists and scientists, and what we see with our own eyes as evidence, is Neanderthal thinking IMHO.

Give us viable alternative explanations, instead of the unfounded half truths and quasi superstition, conspiracy theories and foolish pig headed closed mindedness presented so far.
 
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Add me too.. My Doc got me to breathe independently again. One day he stood at the end of my intensive care bed watching me breathe.. He concluded that I breathe differently to others..what he meant by that I don’t know..than using an unpublished science paper..he used the technique to help me breathe.. Thanks to him I have fantastic breathing considering my level of injury!!
Duly added. I can also be included, though not to the extent of your self and the bearded one. Many years ago I listened to a GP try to help me with something I didn't understand and that he, in hindsight, was absolutely not specialised in. Six months down the road, and doing much worse, I ended up by chance seeing someone with relevant training and expertise, and positive results came very quickly. The issue turned out to be panic disorder, which was distressing and confusing at the time, but has well researched and comprehendible diagnostics, physiological aspects, and treatment. I don't distrust or heap scorn on GPs as a result, they are typically very good at what they do. I happened to get one who made the simple error of not referring onwards.

These days GPs are more worded up on things like panic disorder, but for people who are experiencing it to an extreme level I'd still be wanting them to see a Psychologist.
 

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I get my information from the father of understanding lol.

You think doctors and scientists are gods? Lol you bloody atheist!

I get my information by going outside every once in a while.
I only know of one person who says he lost a family member to covid but he reckons the hospital lied and put a covid tag on him.

ive said before I definitely don’t trust doctors and scientists.
I had a virus a few years ago which almost killed me and the doctors couldn’t diagnose it.
That is where I lost 100% faith in doctors and science and realise they’re not perfect like the rest of us!
You should go back and get reevaluated. It appears tinfoilitis is an ongoing health complication.
 

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I knew you would reply with something like this.
That’s right dumbo if you don’t understand something just belittle the person.
That is going to make you seem more intelligent?

just make sure you have a reminder to watch the 6pm news!
Maybe people would take you more seriously if you had a stronger argument than "it's all lies" or "according to the people I talk to on the street."
 
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So... you went from trusting them 100% to trusting them 0%?

I'll give you the tip, most people find some middle ground. Any scientist or doctor is human, and therefore fallible. However just as I'm going to entrust my car to a mechanic with 20+ years experience under his belt keeping cars running because there is less risk they will stuff it up, I'm going to go with what the epidemiologist with 20+ years experience dealing with contagions says, because there is less risk they will stuff it up. Is the risk eliminated? No, and anyone who approaches science or medicine expecting it to be 100% is destined for disappointment. But we have among us people who are here because they came across experts with remarkable training, skill, and knowledge, people like @ASSASSIN and @Mr 95%. They aren't here because science and medicine is 100%, they are here because science and medicine is doing genuine hard yards to figure stuff out.
I'd be literally blind if not for medical science.... @Memberberries is lucky, he's only figuratively blind.
 

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So... you went from trusting them 100% to trusting them 0%?

I'll give you the tip, most people find some middle ground. Any scientist or doctor is human, and therefore fallible. However just as I'm going to entrust my car to a mechanic with 20+ years experience under his belt keeping cars running because there is less risk they will stuff it up, I'm going to go with what the epidemiologist with 20+ years experience dealing with contagions says, because there is less risk they will stuff it up. Is the risk eliminated? No, and anyone who approaches science or medicine expecting it to be 100% is destined for disappointment. But we have among us people who are here because they came across experts with remarkable training, skill, and knowledge, people like @ASSASSIN and @Mr 95%. They aren't here because science and medicine is 100%, they are here because science and medicine is doing genuine hard yards to figure stuff out.
Yep, after 3 years of research on my old heart at the Victor Chang Institute at St Vincent's, it is now currently being studied in Canada. Australia, Canada and the US share studies/info.
 

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Natural antibiotics have been around for ever the first true antibiotic i think was penicillin in the late 20s well after the Spanish flu, I didn't think antibiotics were used to treat such viruses anyway.but don't QUOTE me on it i have little knowledge when it comes to medical science, ill ask @Lov_Dog to help clear this one up
Speaking of antibiotics, just started a heavy duty course because of this beauty...

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