Coronavirus.

[south of heaven]

You continue to avoid replying to my request (twice, maybe thrice) to explain simple graphs and the data used to generate them.
I won't "feel warm and fuzzy" until you do that - will you abide?

The knock out isn't enough going full deliverance with the ear twist and making him squeal lol

 

[Mr 95%]

So I dont get any kudos for telling him to fuck off

Hold on ... feel better?

 

[CaptainJackson]

So I dont get any kudos for telling him to fuck off

Bro you and I are the ones who don't have patience for him and tell him to get fucked.

Youre in the same boat as me.

We're the forums unsung heroes

 

[Lov_Dog]

So I dont get any kudos for telling him to fuck off

How dare we form a group with similar opinions - like on a forum for a football team we all purport to support!!
And then find more common underlying similarities/difference in our beliefs, opinions and choose to converse on them.

Genuine KUDOS O captain! My captain!

 

[The DoggFather]

Bro you and I are the ones who don't have patience for him and tell him to get fucked.

Youre in the same boat as me.

We're the forums unsung heroes

I just think we say what the nicer members think but won't say lol

 

[CaptainJackson]

I just think we say what the nicer members think but won't say lol

We're just too honest

 

[Lov_Dog]

The knock out isn't enough going full deliverance with the ear twist and making him squeal lol

Agree - despite the posters perpetual requests for evidence and insight, seems hypocritical that it cannot now engage after several requests for same.
One could only conclude that it is incapable and yet cannot admit it.

 

[CaptainJackson]

Agree - despite the posters perpetual requests for evidence and insight, seems hypocritical that it cannot now engage after several requests for same.
One could only conclude that it is incapable and yet cannot admit it.

I know exactly what you mean. @utility half does this all the time when we're discussing Adam idiot

 

[Tassie Devil]

Massive kudos from me bro.

Seconded

 

[Dawgfather]

Honestly it's pretty bad how people give facts more credit than their own fictional beliefs.

I support people like you who fight for fiction and misinformation. It's people like you who make the flat earth go around.

It’s funny watching how fast all of you are to nod in vigorous agreement with each other whilst you all ironically pretend to be so open and considerate of wide ranges of views.

None of you have probably had a thought in your lives that wasn’t put there by the media or your government. And if one materialised you would quickly wipe it for fear of not fitting in. Cowardice personified.

There’s nothing admirable or courageous about finding as many insecure ppl as possible - people who are looking to ‘join the herd’, just to find some way of fitting in, because they have no faith in their own individual character. People with such little character they need to find support by liking each other’s posts on an online forum as some way of pretending that they have some opinion worth paying attention to.

 

[CaptainJackson]

It’s funny watching how fast all of you are to nod in vigorous agreement with each other whilst you all ironically pretend to be so open and considerate of wide ranges of views.

None of you have probably had a thought in your lives that wasn’t out there by the media or your government. And if one materialised you would quickly wipe it for fear of not fitting in. Cowardice personified.

There’s nothing admirable or courageous about finding as many insecure ppl as possible - people who are looking to ‘join the herd’, just to find some way of fitting in, because they have no faith in their own individual character. People with such little character they need to find support by liking each other’s posts on an online forum as some way of pretending that they have some opinion worth paying attention to.

Spoken like a true lunatic who has such a high opinion of himself but really his head is stuck that far up his own arse

You've become the forum jester doofus

 

[Dawgfather]

Spoken like a true lunatic who has such a high opinion of himself but really his head is stuck that far up his own arse

You’re a robot mate. Go read something that challenges yourself.

 

[Lov_Dog]

ok so now it has regressed into attacking folks who present actual facts supported by evidence, because it cannot back up false claims on simple graphs or explain data presented by media and governments.
HA!

 

[Tassie Devil]

You’re a robot mate. Go read something that challenges yourself.

Guarantee mate that reading your absolute garbage is the biggest challenge we've all got to get through on a daily basis. None of it makes sense.

 

[CaptainJackson]

You’re a robot mate. Go read something that challenges yourself.

Thanks for the realisation that your stupid fucked up posts don't challenge anyone and that you've suggested reading something else.

You're a clown, a massive massive clown. Have fun at your next IPA meeting love child of rowan Dean and miranda devine

 

[Lov_Dog]

I have family throughout Texas, a few of them have had COVID, in each instance they were either asymptomatic or the symptoms were barely recognisable. None went to hospital. Of course this isn't representative of everyone, and clearly many people have been either quite sick or have died.

The situation might seem bad because the media keeps telling you it's bad multiple times a day and they also remind you of the COVID numbers multiple times a day. They don't tell you the number of cancer/heart disease/fentanyl over-doses and suicides every day.

The reality is that hospitals still have capacity and hopefully will continue to have capacity over the winter. Current stats are:

California: % of inpatient beds taken up: 63.7% (i.e. 36.3% of beds are available still)
Texas: % of inpatient beds taken up: 68%

California: % of ICU beds taken up: 64.5%
Texas: % of ICU beds taken up 73.8%

COVID-19 Data Dashboard - Hospital Capacity Snapshot | NHSN | CDC

www.cdc.gov

Also, the number of total deaths occurring in the U.S (from any cause) is currently below the 5 year average in most age categories (except 65 and older), but even in these older age categories, the current numbers are basically exactly on the average.

So on the topic of whether or not there is more, less or the same amount of death occurring compared to the last 5 years in America, the current data shows there is the same number of deaths occurring in older age groups and less deaths occurring than average in the younger age groups.

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Can you please explain how these graphs illustrate that there is less death in 2020 v's 2019?
And the extreme drop off in most recent data points please?
As it will illuminate the the basis for your argument/claim.

 

[CaptainJackson]

Can you please explain how these graphs illustrate that there is less death in 2020 v's 2019?
And the extreme drop off in most recent data points please?
As it will illuminate the the basis for your argument/claim.

Make sure you keep a copy of your posts.

Dickfather is going to ignore this conversation ever happened and in 2 days will post the same shit word for word again

So just copy and paste your response in 2 days

That reminds me, dawgfather what is socialism?

 

[south of heaven]

None of you have probably had a thought in your lives that wasn’t put there by the media or your government.

our government is all right, got nice parks ,a lot of services to help people far from perfect but we not like north Korea or China,
Although those oppressive tyrants did ask people to wear a mask, and tried to help businesses during these times , and that fucking Medicare how dare they let us get access to hospitals without paying

 

[Lov_Dog]

I have family throughout Texas, a few of them have had COVID, in each instance they were either asymptomatic or the symptoms were barely recognisable. None went to hospital. Of course this isn't representative of everyone, and clearly many people have been either quite sick or have died.

The situation might seem bad because the media keeps telling you it's bad multiple times a day and they also remind you of the COVID numbers multiple times a day. They don't tell you the number of cancer/heart disease/fentanyl over-doses and suicides every day.

The reality is that hospitals still have capacity and hopefully will continue to have capacity over the winter. Current stats are:

California: % of inpatient beds taken up: 63.7% (i.e. 36.3% of beds are available still)
Texas: % of inpatient beds taken up: 68%

California: % of ICU beds taken up: 64.5%
Texas: % of ICU beds taken up 73.8%

COVID-19 Data Dashboard - Hospital Capacity Snapshot | NHSN | CDC

www.cdc.gov

Also, the number of total deaths occurring in the U.S (from any cause) is currently below the 5 year average in most age categories (except 65 and older), but even in these older age categories, the current numbers are basically exactly on the average.

So on the topic of whether or not there is more, less or the same amount of death occurring compared to the last 5 years in America, the current data shows there is the same number of deaths occurring in older age groups and less deaths occurring than average in the younger age groups.

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oh dear, why is there a sharp drop off in ALL excess deaths on each of the curves?
did you pass elementary math? If so, you'd have some basic knowledge on how to read/interpret a trend line.


stay in your lane.

link Weekly number of deaths (from all causes)

link: Weekly counts of deaths by age group

link: Weekly number of deaths Comparing excess deaths including/excluding COVID-19

link: Weekly number of deaths (from all causes) - Comparing predicted (weighted) and reported (unweighted) estimates

Regardless of the reasons why excess deaths are currently low by historic standards, I simply pointed out that the media’s narrative of mass deaths is not consistent with the data which shows that when compared to the last 5 years there is not a significant amount of death happening in America.

"Also, the number of total deaths occurring in the U.S (from any cause) is currently below the 5 year average in most age categories (except 65 and older), but even in these older age categories, the current numbers are basically exactly on the average.

So on the topic of whether or not there is more, less or the same amount of death occurring compared to the last 5 years in America, the current data shows there is the same number of deaths occurring in older age groups and less deaths occurring than average in the younger age groups."

I'm still missing how you arrive at your conclusions highlight in blue and red above.
Can you help explain your rationale, because the graphs and actual data tell a completely different story to what you have shared.
I'm particularly interested in the sharp drop off in trend line.

The graphs are quite clear, there is slightly less deaths occurring (in absolute terms) now, compared to the same time last year in America.

NO. You have interpreted the simple graphs erroneously.
The graphs clearly show a solid line at 0% change and all trend lines are above that solid line (<25 year old hovering around the solid line), indicating more death in 2020 than previous year(s).

You have failed to detail the sharp drop off in deaths in recent data points.

You need to stay in your lane - this is not your lane!

Can you please explain how these graphs illustrate that there is less death in 2020 v's 2019?
And the extreme drop off in most recent data points please?
As it will illuminate the the basis for your argument/claim.

How many requests to describe logic for conclusion that simple graphs display less death in 2020 v's previous year(s) ?
FOUR
How many descriptions offered?
NADA, but does respond.

Let's keep tracking this, while I go fact check other claims.

 

[Lov_Dog]

Make sure you keep a copy of your posts.

Dickfather is going to ignore this conversation ever happened and in 2 days will post the same shit word for word again

So just copy and paste your response in 2 days

That reminds me, dawgfather what is socialism?

Done, tick!