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If this does happen I would imagine we would have some sort of war chest in 2020
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Monday Buzz: Lies make mugs out of NRL fans
Last week was all about coach swapping. Bennett. Seibold. Cleary, Hasler and Maguire. Everything moved so quickly and dramatically it was like week one of the old Super League war. Now it’s the players’ turn.
Apparently Kangaroos front-rower Dave Klemmer wants out from the Canterbury Bulldogs to join the Newcastle Knights next year.
Dessie Hasler wants Kieran Foran back at Brookie. Forget the salary cap issues, we’ll get him back somehow. Maybe even a player swap.
The New Zealand Warriors have even told pin-up boy Shaun Johnson he can look around.
Now it’s Klemmer. The Test prop has two years to run in a four-year contract at the Bulldogs. Apparently he has a genuine out clause in that old third-party agreements fell over.
Klemmer met with Bulldogs CEO Andrew Hill last week to put his case for a release.
Klemmer is being guided by Isaac Moses, the player agent who is notoriously bullish in ensuring his players get their full worth and entitlements.
This is the manager who took Mitchell Moses, James Tedesco and Aaron Woods to new clubs to get them the money he thought they deserved and new career opportunities.
If he can get Klemmer an extra $1.6 million over four years at the Knights he’ll go for it.
The Knights approached the Bulldogs about Klemmer three months ago but were told he was not for sale. Their fans copped Aaron Woods and Moses Mbye being released but would blow up deluxe over Klemmer. He’s the heart and soul of the footy club.
Even from New Zealand we now learn Johnson has been told to look around and test the market. Yet he is the one Warriors player, outside of Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, with a following like an All Blacks superstar.
And this is just the start. Now the coaches have settled, the player movement will explode. What are rugby league supporters supposed to think?
Think of the hundreds of kids who proudly wear Johnson’s jersey.
Right now the clubs are trying to flog memberships and season tickets for 2019 yet you hardly know who you will be barracking for.
The NRL is at least planning to stop the disloyalty and coaching craziness. Never again will a club like the Penrith Panthers be legally capable of offering an under-contract coach like Ivan Cleary a job midterm.
The rules and regulations around coaching contracts have been put on the agenda for the next chief executive’s conference in mid-November and again at the club chairs’ meeting in December.
The NRL recently introduced a cap on football department spending to stop clubs from going broke.
As part of this, coaching contracts will have to be registered with the NRL exactly the same as the players. They will also be subjected to the same anti-poaching
Under this scenario, Cleary would have been strictly off limits. And so he should be. The fans have had enough of this betrayal.
“G’day boys. I hope this finds you well and enjoying your time off. I was writing to you in the hope of beating the press to let you know that I will no longer be your coach at Wests Tigers.
“This is an extremely uncomfortable situation for me as I have genuine fondness for the club, and I have loved coaching you all. I understand that this situation has caused some pain for people that I care about, along with putting the club in an awkward situation … I do not feel good about this.
“I would have preferred to do this in person but time and circumstances have made that impossible.
“I hope we meet again soon and I wish you all the very best in the future. You have my number and I am always open for a chat if you wish. Iv.”
But it’s the fans who he misled that really deserve an apology.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/6e060243e7f581581c1580d959054307
Last week was all about coach swapping. Bennett. Seibold. Cleary, Hasler and Maguire. Everything moved so quickly and dramatically it was like week one of the old Super League war. Now it’s the players’ turn.
Apparently Kangaroos front-rower Dave Klemmer wants out from the Canterbury Bulldogs to join the Newcastle Knights next year.
Dessie Hasler wants Kieran Foran back at Brookie. Forget the salary cap issues, we’ll get him back somehow. Maybe even a player swap.
The New Zealand Warriors have even told pin-up boy Shaun Johnson he can look around.
Now it’s Klemmer. The Test prop has two years to run in a four-year contract at the Bulldogs. Apparently he has a genuine out clause in that old third-party agreements fell over.
Klemmer met with Bulldogs CEO Andrew Hill last week to put his case for a release.
Klemmer is being guided by Isaac Moses, the player agent who is notoriously bullish in ensuring his players get their full worth and entitlements.
This is the manager who took Mitchell Moses, James Tedesco and Aaron Woods to new clubs to get them the money he thought they deserved and new career opportunities.
If he can get Klemmer an extra $1.6 million over four years at the Knights he’ll go for it.
The Knights approached the Bulldogs about Klemmer three months ago but were told he was not for sale. Their fans copped Aaron Woods and Moses Mbye being released but would blow up deluxe over Klemmer. He’s the heart and soul of the footy club.
Even from New Zealand we now learn Johnson has been told to look around and test the market. Yet he is the one Warriors player, outside of Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, with a following like an All Blacks superstar.
And this is just the start. Now the coaches have settled, the player movement will explode. What are rugby league supporters supposed to think?
Think of the hundreds of kids who proudly wear Johnson’s jersey.
Right now the clubs are trying to flog memberships and season tickets for 2019 yet you hardly know who you will be barracking for.
The NRL is at least planning to stop the disloyalty and coaching craziness. Never again will a club like the Penrith Panthers be legally capable of offering an under-contract coach like Ivan Cleary a job midterm.
The rules and regulations around coaching contracts have been put on the agenda for the next chief executive’s conference in mid-November and again at the club chairs’ meeting in December.
The NRL recently introduced a cap on football department spending to stop clubs from going broke.
As part of this, coaching contracts will have to be registered with the NRL exactly the same as the players. They will also be subjected to the same anti-poaching
Under this scenario, Cleary would have been strictly off limits. And so he should be. The fans have had enough of this betrayal.
“G’day boys. I hope this finds you well and enjoying your time off. I was writing to you in the hope of beating the press to let you know that I will no longer be your coach at Wests Tigers.
“This is an extremely uncomfortable situation for me as I have genuine fondness for the club, and I have loved coaching you all. I understand that this situation has caused some pain for people that I care about, along with putting the club in an awkward situation … I do not feel good about this.
“I would have preferred to do this in person but time and circumstances have made that impossible.
“I hope we meet again soon and I wish you all the very best in the future. You have my number and I am always open for a chat if you wish. Iv.”
But it’s the fans who he misled that really deserve an apology.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/6e060243e7f581581c1580d959054307
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If Isaac Moses is looking after Klemmer this definitely has legs....
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We just say no simple as that then when we are out of the woods salary cap wise we increase his $$
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I think he is the white elephant in the room. He goes, then the jigsaw puzzle becomes a lot more clearer. We have enough forwards to plough forward. It'll put us in a better position to make a play for gun backs.
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They are throwing big money around but it hasn't gotten them any where as of yet. Still can't even scrape top 8.
Pay's philosophy is to bring through juniors or get good value for money with up and comers from other clubs. Oldcastle are handing out Des like contracts.
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If it's about third party agreements can't new ones be sourced for him?
If it's about a player who negotiated a deal and there's now a better offer and he wants to walk away then he's no better than SBW.
I follow a team, not individual players, I learnt that was easier because there's no loyalty anymore.
If it's about a player who negotiated a deal and there's now a better offer and he wants to walk away then he's no better than SBW.
I follow a team, not individual players, I learnt that was easier because there's no loyalty anymore.
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He was on like 350k or something before he even played fg. We should surely upgrade him, but he definitely needs to show us some loyalty!!!
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Klemmer negotiated this current deal himself and he was fine with it until he relised he low balled himself. I think this is ploy to get an upgrade.
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Lol we “copped” woods and Mbye being released please **** we where ecstatic!
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I love Klemmer and would hate to see him go but if he doesn’t want to be in a dogs jersey he needs to move on and so do we no one is irreplaceable
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Klemmer is not just another forward you dopes... We probably struggle to make it out of our 40 without him.. you don't just replace a Klemmer because you've got the money, there has to be another Klemmer on the market and you have to attract him to your club over other contenders
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David Klemmer eyes big-money move to Newcastle Knights
Phil Rothfield, Sports Editor-at-large, The Daily Telegraph
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KANGAROOS prop David Klemmer is poised to ask the Canterbury Bulldogs for a release to sign one of the richest contracts in rugby league history with the Newcastle Knights.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal Klemmer met with Bulldogs chief executive Andrew Hill last week about the possibility of him being freed from the final two seasons of his four-year contract.
Asked about the meeting with Klemmer, Hill said: “We don’t comment on rumours and speculation involving Dave or any other players.
“Dave has been at the Dogs for nearly a decade and is a much-valued member of our club.
“Obviously, we’d like him to be at the club for a lot longer.”
This is the third time in 12 months Klemmer has approached Canterbury to talk about an early release.
David Klemmer could be on the way out of the Bulldogs. Picture: Getty Images
He met Hill on his own without a manager. Another Bulldogs official revealed Klemmer had been “unsettled” for some time.
There is talk he has an out clause in that some old third-party agreements have fallen over.
Under NRL anti-poaching laws, the Knights cannot officially open negotiations with Klemmer until November next year.
However, it is understood a third party has been involved in talks behind the scenes.
Newcastle are prepared to pay a whopping $4.6 million in a four-year deal.
It is double what he is earning at Belmore and the front-rower is reportedly keen to explore a more relaxed lifestyle in Newcastle.
Desperate to increase their forward strength, the Knights recently met with Broncos front-rowers Tevita Pangai Jr and Matt Lodge. Both knocked them back and hence the move for Klemmer.
David Klemmer could be tempted by a big-money move to Newcastle. Picture: Alix Sweeney
They need the forward momentum to allow Kalyn Ponga and Mitchell Pearce to work their magic.
With the coaching merry-go-round finally settled, clubs are now preparing for a player market frenzy.
Even players under contract such as Klemmer will be targeted across the game.
Wayne Bennett and Anthony Seibold plan to be coaching at their current clubs next season, despite long-term recruitment goals at their new clubs.
WHAT THE FUCK?
Phil Rothfield, Sports Editor-at-large, The Daily Telegraph
an hour ago
Subscriber only
KANGAROOS prop David Klemmer is poised to ask the Canterbury Bulldogs for a release to sign one of the richest contracts in rugby league history with the Newcastle Knights.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal Klemmer met with Bulldogs chief executive Andrew Hill last week about the possibility of him being freed from the final two seasons of his four-year contract.
Asked about the meeting with Klemmer, Hill said: “We don’t comment on rumours and speculation involving Dave or any other players.
“Dave has been at the Dogs for nearly a decade and is a much-valued member of our club.
“Obviously, we’d like him to be at the club for a lot longer.”
This is the third time in 12 months Klemmer has approached Canterbury to talk about an early release.
David Klemmer could be on the way out of the Bulldogs. Picture: Getty Images
He met Hill on his own without a manager. Another Bulldogs official revealed Klemmer had been “unsettled” for some time.
There is talk he has an out clause in that some old third-party agreements have fallen over.
Under NRL anti-poaching laws, the Knights cannot officially open negotiations with Klemmer until November next year.
However, it is understood a third party has been involved in talks behind the scenes.
Newcastle are prepared to pay a whopping $4.6 million in a four-year deal.
It is double what he is earning at Belmore and the front-rower is reportedly keen to explore a more relaxed lifestyle in Newcastle.
Desperate to increase their forward strength, the Knights recently met with Broncos front-rowers Tevita Pangai Jr and Matt Lodge. Both knocked them back and hence the move for Klemmer.
David Klemmer could be tempted by a big-money move to Newcastle. Picture: Alix Sweeney
They need the forward momentum to allow Kalyn Ponga and Mitchell Pearce to work their magic.
With the coaching merry-go-round finally settled, clubs are now preparing for a player market frenzy.
Even players under contract such as Klemmer will be targeted across the game.
Wayne Bennett and Anthony Seibold plan to be coaching at their current clubs next season, despite long-term recruitment goals at their new clubs.
WHAT THE FUCK?
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