Bulldogs fan - Danny Lim beaten up by police

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He was only asked to move on from within the Building, he could have walked outside and that would have been it BUT guess what he didnt and he declined multiples times when the police officers asked him politely, he then further resisted the officers attempts when he wouldn't comply with them physically detaining him ...
Actions have consequences Danny. Welcome to the real world.
He should take his own advice and 'Smile ****' .. dont be a hypocrite Danny
Agree with majority of this post but I think the issue here is the leg sweep.
He would weigh no more than 63kg. They could have easily marched him out of the building.
 

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It's not acceptable and now there is a sizable movement of people organising and recommending a boycott of the QVB.
and those people probably don't even live in NSW, or would never frequent the QVB (or be able to afford to frequent the QVB) anyway.

He did not commit a crime.
Take your pick, there are a few he could be done for.

Charge 1 - Failing to Comply with Police Direction
Charge 2 - Public Nuisance
Charge 3 - Offensive Conduct

He would weigh no more than 63kg. They could have easily marched him out of the building.
Watched the video a few times now. He was pushing back into officers and locking his knees to avoid being moved on.
 

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Agree with majority of this post but I think the issue here is the leg sweep.
He would weigh no more than 63kg. They could have easily marched him out of the building.
Let’s hope he learnt from the experience, courtesy of the tax payer. :tearsofjoy:
 

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and those people probably don't even live in NSW, or would never frequent the QVB (or be able to afford to frequent the QVB) anyway.


Take your pick, there are a few he could be done for.

Charge 1 - Failing to Comply with Police Direction
Charge 2 - Public Nuisance
Charge 3 - Offensive Conduct


Watched the video a few times now. He was pushing back into officers and locking his knees to avoid being moved on.
"and those people probably don't even live in NSW, or would never frequent the QVB (or be able to afford to frequent the QVB) anyway."

Wouldn't know where they come from or whether they can afford to shop in QVB....beside the point ....and irrelevent to the argument that this was totally avoidable for all parties affected (even the shopping arcade) has consequences.
 

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Did the three or four fans who ran onto the field on 1 October in the Arema v Surabaya game commit a crime?
Yes they did.
Were the police justified in using excessive force to arrest those fans? Apparently so.
Di the 2000 fans who then rushed on to the field commit a crime? Yes.
Were the police then justified in using violence and tear gas to control the fans? Apparently so.
100 to 200 people were crushed to death trying to get away from the beatings and the tear gas.
The use of force against anyone, whether they be Danny Lim or an overexcited football fan in Indonesia, cannot be justified under any circumstances.
The only thing we really need to know is whether the police involved in the Danny Lim incident made their own decision to arrest him and throw him to the ground. Or whether there was some kind of approval or communication from above that the next time Danny Lim caused a 'problem' he would be arrested and brought in.
Either way, the police have stuffed up.
It doesn't matter how much a pest he was, the use of force is not justified unless in self-defence or if there is a clear threat to the safety of others.
The tragedy in Malang as a result of police violence happened very quickly. We can see a direct relationship between the police actions and the deaths. We can also see a direct relationship between the leg sweep on Danny Lim and his head injuries.
What is more important here is that we don't always see the relationship between police violence and the harm it causes.
The misuse of police force should not be accepted in any circumstance. Full stop.
We will be lucky to find out the failings of senior police when the official reports come out. Did they say bring him in or did they simply fail to let these particular offices know who Danny Lim was an to leave him alone?
I expect assume the junior police involved will be made the scapegoats.
This is about something much bigger - making sure every cop is hardwired so they never ever let their emotions get the better of them and use inappropriate force. Whether they are in QVB, Mt Druitt, Moree or Malang.
 

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Take your pick, there are a few he could be done for.

Charge 1 - Failing to Comply with Police Direction
Charge 2 - Public Nuisance
Charge 3 - Offensive Conduct
2 and 3 are dismissed as an implied swear word is not actually a crime. This also dismisses 1 as Police coming to the location was not warranted to begin with.

We have seen many instances of Police being arseholes - and this is just another one of them. I'm not saying DL was an angel, but certainly didn't do anything that justified what happened to him.
 

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2 and 3 are dismissed as an implied swear word is not actually a crime. This also dismisses 1 as Police coming to the location was not warranted to begin with.

We have seen many instances of Police being arseholes - and this is just another one of them. I'm not saying DL was an angel, but certainly didn't do anything that justified what happened to him.
and those people probably don't even live in NSW, or would never frequent the QVB (or be able to afford to frequent the QVB) anyway.


Take your pick, there are a few he could be done for.

Charge 1 - Failing to Comply with Police Direction
Charge 2 - Public Nuisance
Charge 3 - Offensive Conduct


Watched the video a few times now. He was pushing back into officers and locking his knees to avoid being moved on.
Whether or not he may have committed a crime is irrelevant.
Even if someone has committed a serious crime, any use of force must be in self defence or to protect the community.
What makes this worse is that police have already been told by a magistrate his billboard is not considered offensive.
I prefer to have decisions about what is or isn't a crime determined by the courts. Not police.
 

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Fellas, surely the old bloke could've been taken by each arm and gently moved to the exit.

When the cops put his arms behind him that makes you lean forward, not hard to fall forward if you're an old frail bloke.

Imho I reckon cops went over for that situation and not a great look again for the boys in blue. Obviously not done with intent but fellas that might be shown in the academy as how not to do it.

Hope the old fella recovers without any dramas.
Cops well a hard talking to by the duty sarge is enough.
 

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Question: Who has actually watched the video in it's entirety? Who has actually seen the video where police are forced to take him to ground?

I only ask because it speaks volumes for the actual incident and clearly shows an attempt by Lim to escape police whilst under the process of being arrested.
 

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Question: Who has actually watched the video in it's entirety? Who has actually seen the video where police are forced to take him to ground?

I only ask because it speaks volumes for the actual incident and clearly shows an attempt by Lim to escape police whilst under the process of being arrested.
An attempt to escape police?

Even if he did escape police what was he going to do then?

Come back with an even funnier sandwich board?

He's not exactly a criminal mastermind, secretly controlling the Sydney drug trade.

He's a 78 year old wandering the streets of Sydney with a funny sign.
 

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I knew he would have backing you can’t fuck with Danny in Sydney without a backlash.
 

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Playing the devils advocate here, but:
1. He was asked to leave QVB nicely by onsite concierge after complaints about his behaviour. He refused.
2. Police were called who also asked him to leave and gave him a move on direction. He refused.
3. Police then stated he was being placed under arrest for failing to move on. He refused to comply and instead struggled with them.

It was at that point he attempted to break their grasp, and was taken to the ground and arrested.

Pretty clear that the tiled floor of the QVB isn't a soft landing for someones face.

Moral of the story: When police ask you to do something, or someone (with authority in a public building) asks you to do something, just bloody comply instead of being a dickhead, and if you opt to go the dickhead route, you've got to expect that you might win stupid prizes for playing stupid games.

Thing is Danny knows that despite being in the wrong, he can pull the pity card and people will side with "the poor old man".
Exactly.

A serial pest.

Just because he weighs 40kg and is 78yo he thinks he can get away with not having his head smashed into a marble tiled floor.

If he is told to move he should have just f@#ken moved.

Bleeding on the brain? he got off lightly.

Cop should have just shot him in the head and left his lifeless body on George St as a warning.

No more pests then.
An attempt to escape police?

Even if he did escape police what was he going to do then?

Come back with an even funnier sandwich board?

He's not exactly a criminal mastermind, secretly controlling the Sydney drug trade.

He's a 78 year old wandering the streets of Sydney with a funny sign.
Dude come on.

The police were in danger and acted for their own safety.

A 78yo who weighs about 45kg....................

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but Danny's words will make me cry."

Cops were only defending themselves against a sandwich board that might make then cry
 
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