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Opinion Bulldogs Board Elections- MEGATHREAD

Discussion in 'Bulldogs Discussion' started by David holland, Dec 27, 2017.

  1. Mr Invisible

    Mr Invisible Super Mod Staff Member Premium Member Gilded

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    Part of that effort has already made it's way to ARU HQ. Another part is currently unemployed at Collaroy in his beachfront house, and I doubt is giving too much of a fuck.

    Current board have also:
    - Employed Pay as coach.
    - Taken back control and appointed Hill who is a smart operator as CEO.
    - Overhauled the coaching layout by making Pay answer to Andrew Farrar.
    - Shifted some deadweight.
    - Restructed the board of directors by welcoming on astute people to replace those that left.
    - Come up with the Captains of old idea to bring back old players to mentor current and upcoming players.
    - Overhauled the clubs ethos.

    Lets not forget also that Dib and Peponis (and Hill) are both very much entrenched with both NSW RL, and the NRL.

    If we are going to look objectionally... they have made good on the wrongs that they created.
     
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  2. deimus

    deimus Kennel Enthusiast Gilded

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    Most of the things they have corrected are from their own mistakes. Is that what you're looking for in other aspects of your life? What confidence in your professional life would you have with a company that makes a lot of mistakes but if you winge at them enough, for years, they will offer to fix them a few months out from your contract expiring?
     
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  3. Dstyle

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    Why is he running if he just resigned?
     
  4. Dstyle

    Dstyle Forum Regular

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    Thanks for your assessment Tele Dubbie
     
  5. Dstyle

    Dstyle Forum Regular

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    Thanks for your assessment Tele Dubbie
     
  6. GrogDog

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    Objectionably?? So they have fixed their dumbass decisions that were tearing the whole club against it's fans apart several months out from elections and they are to rewarded for it? Ummm yeah nah! If certain comments are true that Dib the dik has stacked the process so he will easily win than it certainly will not be because he has earnt it, it just proves he is a dictator on top of it all. Clearly some have friends or relatives on the board and will say anything to protect them and that is not being "objectionable".
     
  7. Mr Invisible

    Mr Invisible Super Mod Staff Member Premium Member Gilded

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    They've fixed up issues that others created whilst on their watch.

    Is the CEO of Maccas responsible when a kid in the local Maccas makes a mistake? Technically yes but only by something like 0.0000001% due to poor training of the employee, that the store manager, the franchisee, the area manager, the regional manager, the Australian manager, the Australian CEO, the international CEO, blah blah.

    My point is that the board don't sit over every decision and every action made in a club. That's why you employ a CEO. CEO runs day to day operations, and the board only step in and get involved when required. That's how every other club in the NRL work.

    If your CEO fucks up, sure the board takes some blame for it, but hardly all of it.
     
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  8. GrogDog

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    You can hardly compare some zit faced kid at maccas fukin up an order to a CEO/Board allowing atleast 3 years of very poor decisions go unchecked until election time though. We all know the decisions but probably the longest serving one and the first to somewhat show it's face was the allowance of She-rex to stay while other blokes had to leave (i.e Finucane), then we went further down hill with playing style, obviously Des back ending contracts must have been happening during this period, further players being released, no accountability in performance at player level, the Fajita contract, player treatment, recruitment and retention decisions, Hasler remaining at the end of the 2015 season, the Hasler contract etc etc etc. At some stage prior to impending elections this board should have done something earlier or it could be argued to never let it happened in the first place....
     
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  9. immortalbulldog

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    Dude you’ve got no idea. Dib is the one who calls all the shots at the club. He is active in recruitment and retention and tries to run the club the same way Politis runs the Roosters. Only problem is he’s a bumbling fucking idiot. At the end of the day a competent board should know exactly what is happening at their club. At worst they were overseeing the debacle, at best they oblivious to it. Either way that stinks of incompetence. Considering half of them are also on the leagues club board ho sign the cheques for the football department then it makes it even worse.

    By far the biggest problem is Dib. Everyone else on the board toes his line. He should not be chairman but we all know he’s safe because of the way the rules on voting work.

    To suggest that the board aren’t to blame is simply laughable
     
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  10. Mr Invisible

    Mr Invisible Super Mod Staff Member Premium Member Gilded

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    So ... when did Dib come in as chairman of the board? Pretty sure well before Hasler and recruitment sagas and shit like that.

    In other words what's changed in past few years to make the club spiral downwards.

    Hasler, Castle, and.... well that's it.
     
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    Have no idea why Elias resigned and is now standing again, guess time will tell hopefully pre the AGM.
     
  12. immortalbulldog

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    and who hired them? Who re-signed Hasler?

    Oh and let’s not forget that Dib was on the panel negotiating the new salary cap with the NRL and allowed our club to budget for a cap $1mil higher than he was advised by the NRL and then tried to rally other clubs to reject the new deal because he knew we’d be fucked.

    What a fucking shrewd leader he is huh.
     
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  13. immortalbulldog

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    Dib was made chairman in 2010 but didn’t get the full control he wanted until 2014 when he brought in Mortimer and Isaac to run against Dunn and Phil Charlton. Prior to that there were 2 distinct factions in the board. After that the entire board except for Farrar were all Dib men.
    Then there’s the issue of us having a very competent CEO at the club until 2013 who had been hired under the previous chairman. Greenberg was on record stating that he would not approved backended deals. In 2013 he moves on and Castle is hired by Dib but is undermined the entire time. She sucked but was always destined to fail. Dib thought he could take care of recruitment based on Des’ advice and that’s how we ended up where we were this year. Dib even said on talkin sport that there is a recruitment panel and Castle wasn’t on it. The only smart recruitment decision Dib made was to refuse to re-sign Trex because Hasler was pushing hard for that.
    Dib probably has his merits but this entire fiasco happened under his watch and is mostly his doing.
     
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  14. Dstyle

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    Can I respectfully ask you? Do you know how organisations work? Do you know how clubs work? In terms of clubs, do you know who signs off on a club's salary cap when being declared and submitted to the NRL? I would just like to know the extent of your knowledge so i know if i am on the right supporters page?
     
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  15. chisdog

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    But they panicked when pressured by first the media & then fans. That's not leadership, that's capitulation. Hasler originally signed for 2013 for 4 years & was brought forward to start in 2012. So by the end of 2015, the cracks were already there, that's why they sacked Cleal. At that stage, if the Board had ANY guts or leadership, they should have taken back some of the controls they gave him in the first place. By this stage, they had already learned about the salary cap back-ended deals at Manly & should have stopped it from happening at the dogs. But no, they didn't - they let him continue on his way & destroy our club like he destroyed his club, Manly.

    Also looking at your list of what they have done. Why have they done it? They did it because of backlash from supporters, not because they knew they had made mistakes. They did it because the elections are being held in February & they feared losing their jobs, not because of good management.

    They are reactionary to outside forces. They do not react to what they find, or what they think is going on inside the club.

    They keep making mistakes after mistakes & digging a bigger hole for the club & only when faced with losing their jobs did they do anything about it. FAR TOO LATE FOR MINE!
     
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  16. Dstyle

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    Now you are comparing apple pies with big macs-
     
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  17. Phalangist

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    To be fair nobody knew trex was not going to come back to the form he once was in I think we were all excited with the signing at the time.

    The board gave Hasler full control and again at the time we got him he had just come off winning another premiership,and he knew what it took to win a premiership.. if we won the board did the right thing.

    They did sack Hasler when allthe commentators where saying there isn't anyone better its stupid if dogs sack him.

    They had the ballz to sack him

    I personally think the CEO was a big problem and she is now gone
     
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    Yes he fixed it.. but you know we wouldn’t be in this mess if it wasn’t for des, our old ceo and dibbles. Dibbles was complicit in this, even if he was just “signing off”. The board is meant to be there to make sure the club is governed properly. Therefore, to let all this stuff happen under his watch is akin to a person not doing his/her job properly... should we give them a second chance? Maybe. Should we fire them? Yep! The magnitude of the fuck up is large to warrant it.
     
  19. Dstyle

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    All I would like to say that in my view and looking at it objectively-the current board MUST be voted out.
     
  20. Kratos

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    the make-up of the board of directors I believe
     
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