Big Tech Battle Brewing

[DinkumDog]

We’ve arrived at an interesting juncture in the tech space. Apple are set to release a version of iOS that will allow users to block apps and websites from sharing harvested user data. This has obviously infuriated Google and Facebook whose business models are built on receiving that data.

Governments are pondering legislation in terms of managing the tech giants power, including in Australia where there’s proposed reform to make Google and Facebook pay for news content that is authored in Australia, keeping journalists in care and feeding.

Apple says part of their effort is driven by the spread of disinformation and conspiracies, which surely is a good thing, though some will argue freedom of speech includes the right to deliberately mislead.

What’s everyone’s thoughts on where big tech is heading, or might be forced to head?

Apple CEO slams internet giants ahead of new privacy features

Apple chief executive officer Tim Cook lambasted tech giants for “data exploitation” and called for reform around the practices of selling user data to target ads.

www.smh.com.au

 

[N4TE]

Good I’m sick of talking to my missus about maybe going to the Northern Territory and then opening Instagram and somehow having an ad for the Northern Territory pop up.

I have an apple phone though so I guess they are all bad pricks..

 

[DinkumDog]

Good I’m sick of talking to my missus about maybe going to the Northern Territory and then opening Instagram and somehow having an ad for the Northern Territory pop up.

Who’s listening? Do you have a smart speaker?
How do you think they’re getting info from a private conversation at home?

 

[wendog33]

Good I’m sick of talking to my missus about maybe going to the Northern Territory and then opening Instagram and somehow having an ad for the Northern Territory pop up.

I have an apple phone though so I guess they are all bad pricks..

Sometimes you only have to "think" Northern Territory and the ad comes up!

 

[Natboy]

Good I’m sick of talking to my missus about maybe going to the Northern Territory and then opening Instagram and somehow having an ad for the Northern Territory pop up.

I have an apple phone though so I guess they are all bad pricks..

How stupid is it when you buy something online, let’s say a lawnmower and then you get ads for days about lawnmowers. How many lawnmowers do you need?

 

[N4TE]

Who’s listening? Do you have a smart speaker?
How do you think they’re getting info from a private conversation at home?

No don’t have a speaker haven’t searched anything but how is there an ad for what I was just talking about?

 

[BELMORE]

No don’t have a speaker haven’t searched anything but how is there an ad for what I was just talking about?

It’s coincidental

 

[south of heaven]

Who’s listening? Do you have a smart speaker?
How do you think they’re getting info from a private conversation at home?

I've had advertising pop up plenty of times ,after lunch at work after talking about something possible coincidence but happens a bit, maybe I'm just easy to predict, either way .....meh

 

[BELMORE]

I've had advertising pop up plenty of times ,after lunch at work after talking about something possible coincidence but happens a bit, maybe I'm just easy to predict, either way .....meh

Sometimes you get the ads for weeks but once you talk about it is when you actually notice it. They don’t listen and target ads using speakers, phones etc.

 

[south of heaven]

Sometimes you only have to "think" Northern Territory and the ad comes up!

Its the darn gubberment they paid Daryl Somers ,and 20 years later I will still never never know

 

[south of heaven]

Sometimes you get the ads for weeks but once you talk about it is when you actually notice it. They don’t listen and target ads using speakers, phones etc.

That sounds like the most logical reason

 

[wendog33]

That sounds like the most logical reason

So for weeks they're setting you up, by sending subliminal messages in the ads to force you to talk/ think about NT!

 

[south of heaven]

So for weeks they're setting you up, by sending subliminal messages in the ads to force you to talk/ think about NT!

Years i actually went ,I really didn't like it.

 

[DinkumDog]

No don’t have a speaker haven’t searched anything but how is there an ad for what I was just talking about?

Phones and messenger apps. Keywords can be picked up with virtual assistants enabled - so if you have Siri, Alexa or Hey Google enabled (RIP Cortana ) or anything you type into FB messenger or WhatsApp. Recently WhatsApp changed their EULA to say they could share data with Facebook - and millions abandoned WhatsApp within days. I don’t have Facebook but a mate told me someone messaged him and mentioned the word ‘headache’. Before he knew it ads from Panadol appeared on his Facebook.

They’re constantly looking at ways to surveil to increase revenue. I’m not 100% opposed to it nor some privacy freak Luddite - but I do think there’s some lines they shouldn’t be able to cross.

There’s a book called ‘The Age of Surveillance Capitalism’ for anyone who’s interested in the topic.

 

[wendog33]

Years i actually went ,I really didn't like it.

Been a few times and every time it gets worse... dirtier, shabbier and more run down. Looks like they've run out of money to maintain the place.

 

[DinkumDog]

How stupid is it when you buy something online, let’s say a lawnmower and then you get ads for days about lawnmowers. How many lawnmowers do you need?

If you’re @Dawgfather with ‘substantial stock market success’ probably more than one. The maintenance on Dawg Manor must be backbreaking .

 

[CaptainJackson]

Phones and messenger apps. Keywords can be picked up with virtual assistants enabled - so if you have Siri, Alexa or Hey Google enabled (RIP Cortana ) or anything you type into FB messenger or WhatsApp. Recently WhatsApp changed their EULA to say they could share data with Facebook - and millions abandoned WhatsApp within days. I don’t have Facebook but a mate told me someone messaged him and mentioned the word ‘headache’. Before he knew it ads from Panadol appeared on his Facebook.

They’re constantly looking at ways to surveil to increase revenue. I’m not 100% opposed to it nor some privacy freak Luddite - but I do think there’s some lines they shouldn’t be able to cross.

There’s a book called ‘The Age of Surveillance Capitalism’ for anyone who’s interested in the topic.

I think it's a losing battle, so really don't pay much attention to this. Analytics and computing power make it something that's going to eventually going to happen, regardless if you have a smart phone or not. They've got people's profiles down and we should only really be concerned about containment of that technology now, no point trying to stop it, it's inevitable.

 

[DinkumDog]

I really didn't like it.

 

[wendog33]

Phones and messenger apps. Keywords can be picked up with virtual assistants enabled - so if you have Siri, Alexa or Hey Google enabled (RIP Cortana ) or anything you type into FB messenger or WhatsApp. Recently WhatsApp changed their EULA to say they could share data with Facebook - and millions abandoned WhatsApp within days. I don’t have Facebook but a mate told me someone messaged him and mentioned the word ‘headache’. Before he knew it ads from Panadol appeared on his Facebook.

They’re constantly looking at ways to surveil to increase revenue. I’m not 100% opposed to it nor some privacy freak Luddite - but I do think there’s some lines they shouldn’t be able to cross.

There’s a book called ‘The Age of Surveillance Capitalism’ for anyone who’s interested in the topic.

It happens so often that I am doubtful it's all "co-incidental"...but I do love a "believable" conspiracy theory.

 

[south of heaven]

If you’re @Dawgfather with ‘substantial stock market success’ probably more than one. The maintenance on Dawg Manor must be backbreaking .

Luckily he has a good tree pruner