Big, fast players

[simmmo]

watching the coverage on bozo's death yesterday, a comment from Brandy Alexander stood out. He said Bozo's coaching philosophy centred around really big, fast players.

looking at the dogs recruitment for the last 5-10 years, we've had the exact opposite philosophy. We buy and promote undersized slow pluggers. they put in good efforts, but ultimately they get dominated.

When will management realise that we need to get big blokes who can dominate the ruck and get us upfield? then massive, fast outside backs who can cause havoc out wide once the big blokes soften up the opposition.

We've recruited some good backs for next season. But we now need to drop the pluggers, and go all out for big mobile units. Without the big blokes up front, the backs will be severely diminished. Bozo had the right philosophy, which is why manly has had a lot of success. Coincidentally, Manly have the same number of premierships as Canterbury now. you'd be foolish to think they aren't about to get ahead of us with Turbo in the next few years. We need to change our recruitment and coaching philosophy asap. Otherwise we'll be dominated. look at the blokes we've let go at juniors level. We are struggling at hooker. We let Damo Cook and Reed Mahoney go. FFS heads should roll for this sort of crap. the playing roster needs a clean out. Management also needs a total clean out.

 

[boggie23]

Speed remains one of the few skills that cant be taught unfortunately. Well not legally anyway

We did get Waddle. Apparently he was a fast back rower...... Too bad before he hits the line he decides to jump up like a rabbit, to go along with his bad hands and his poor defence.

 

[JackDog]

Speed remains one of the few skills that cant be taught unfortunately. Well not legally anyway

We did get Waddle. Apparently he was a fast back rower...... Too bad before he hits the line he decides to jump up like a rabbit, to go along with his bad hands and his poor defence.

Fotoaika for the Tits is a prime example of big and fast... completely embarrassed or plodders on Saturday

 

[Moedogg]

Wish we could rewind Frank "the tank" Pritchard. He would kill it on the edge in today's game. Big, Fast and had good all round skills.

 

[oldpuppy]

Speed remains one of the few skills that cant be taught unfortunately. Well not legally anyway

We did get Waddle. Apparently he was a fast back rower...... Too bad before he hits the line he decides to jump up like a rabbit, to go along with his bad hands and his poor defence.

A player like Waddel could have had its rewards but like you said he let himself down with errors. We do have fast big forwards in him, Hetherington and Atoni. Possibly Stimson as well. It's a shame their speed is not converted to what great teams have been able to utilise successfully.

 

[Kenya]

Simmmo we had that under Des, we were a big side then.

The game has become so much faster even in the last 5 years. Big and fast will always be an advantage provided they have the endurance needed for today’s fast game.
Big can also suck a lot of energy out of the opposition in the way our big pack in 2004 did.

As an aside about Frank. He was one awesome footballer. Big, had vision and could really play ball.

 

[BELMORE]

Nah but Topine goes hard and he’s a local junior. We CANT swap him for B Smith, a top notch player.

 

[diddly]

Big and fast is good but to be effective they need to be able to change direction quickly, as well as the attitude to make it.
At a HM game , under 17s, early this year marty tapau was there around the dogs players, most of the forwards were as big if not bigger than him. Plenty of size playing the game at all levels, so much more than just size needed to be a good first grader.

 

[Ribo Flavin]

Winning has been a second thought for those in the front office for quite some time now, they have lived of past reputations. We have been behind the elite teams in skill and body type.

 

[Alan79]

There's a place for big fast players, but it's not the be all and end all as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately with the majority of coaches leaning towards this style of recruitment we'll miss out on some incredibly skillful players because they just can't match the physicality early on and leave the game. I don't want to see the game turn into something that excludes people that aren't monsters. It's unfortunately the way it's going though.

If everyone followed the big and fast philosophy someone like Barba would never have gotten a shot. As much as I now hate the turd, his time at the dogs was exciting to watch and we'd have been poorer for not having had him our side before his true colours became exposed. Look at how exciting someone like Matt Dufty has been this year. It's a bit of a sad thing to think that we might just wind up with a game where elusive little guys don't make it beyond the junior grades because NRL coaches just want to see brutes running at each other.

 

[_G-Dog_]

We prefer our wingers in the mould of Atom Ant..

 

[Nasheed]

watching the coverage on bozo's death yesterday, a comment from Brandy Alexander stood out. He said Bozo's coaching philosophy centred around really big, fast players.

looking at the dogs recruitment for the last 5-10 years, we've had the exact opposite philosophy. We buy and promote undersized slow pluggers. they put in good efforts, but ultimately they get dominated.

When will management realise that we need to get big blokes who can dominate the ruck and get us upfield? then massive, fast outside backs who can cause havoc out wide once the big blokes soften up the opposition.

We've recruited some good backs for next season. But we now need to drop the pluggers, and go all out for big mobile units. Without the big blokes up front, the backs will be severely diminished. Bozo had the right philosophy, which is why manly has had a lot of success. Coincidentally, Manly have the same number of premierships as Canterbury now. you'd be foolish to think they aren't about to get ahead of us with Turbo in the next few years. We need to change our recruitment and coaching philosophy asap. Otherwise we'll be dominated. look at the blokes we've let go at juniors level. We are struggling at hooker. We let Damo Cook and Reed Mahoney go. FFS heads should roll for this sort of crap. the playing roster needs a clean out. Management also needs a total clean out.

Nasheed here,
The dogs have ALWAYS had a slow team relative to the competition.
In fact, the 2018 team is probably the fastest I’ve ever seen them. Rhys Martin was supposedly the fastest second rower that year. JMK clocked the fastest time as a hooker that year.
Meaney is among the quickest in the comp and Reimis Smith was in the conversation as fastest in the NRL. Josh Morris we all know is quick
and wasnt Montoya a speedster before the leg break?

In the past we had a lot of lower graders who had speed. Lett, Rieck, Howland, Bott, weren’t in the top grade for us but all were among the quickest in the Comp, and of course Brett Dallas, who didn’t last long in firsts for us.

 

[Scoooby]

Panthers have the perfect balance, no to big, but athletic, agility, skill, the big big boys will find it hard with the new rules. And the little guys will carve up when they get fatigued and sin binned lol, hence why the panthers just won’t be beaten this year, they have adapted very quickly to change!!

 

[BELMORE]

Nasheed here,
The dogs have ALWAYS had a slow team relative to the competition.
In fact, the 2018 team is probably the fastest I’ve ever seen them. Rhys Martin was supposedly the fastest second rower that year. JMK clocked the fastest time as a hooker that year.
Meaney is among the quickest in the comp and Reimis Smith was in the conversation as fastest in the NRL. Josh Morris we all know is quick
and wasnt Montoya a speedster before the leg break?

In the past we had a lot of lower graders who had speed. Lett, Rieck, Howland, Bott, weren’t in the top grade for us but all were among the quickest in the Comp, and of course Brett Dallas, who didn’t last long in firsts for us.

Reimis smith, Josh Morris, Meaney, they are all players that have to wind up to be considered fast. They aren’t quick off the mark, so the only time you see them in full flight is during a line break.

 

[Nasheed]

Reimis smith, Josh Morris, Meaney, they are all players that have to wind up to be considered fast. They aren’t quick off the mark, so the only time you see them in full flight is during a line break.

Some truth to that but it can be adapted. They should stay light on their feet. That’s how I get my acceleration, kind of jump as u jog. Also they can take longer run ups and be support players.