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It takes a while for halves to set their straps in 1st grade and even if the individual shows glimpses of nice plays, the team overall might lack cohesion.
Some big names took a while (couple seasons) to settle into 1st grade, Thurston, Barba, etc. Juniors like Woods et al are unlikely to become an instant success while the overall team performs with direction. It's going to take a couple years and him getting NRL game time is apparently couple years away.

There's no harm in having a couple halves doing what the coach is asking for in the meantime and whilst those juniors are trying to establish into the NRL, Halves that help the cap and squad, let's not forget Thurston having to leave...
I have no issue with keeping Sexton around IF he is willing to stay, I think Sexton along with Woods and others can benefit PLENTY from a seasoned pro. It could honestly be the difference in turning these kids into premiership winning halves or like you said a slow burn...

The biggest thing for me is it pretty much instantly opens our window... We go from top 8 contenders to premiership contenders even though we a re still one big boppa short BUT who knows with what we got in the ranks.
 

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Hunt returns fire
The ill-feeling between Ben Hunt and the Dragons has been heightened by the timing of the club’s decision to allow him to negotiate with other NRL teams.

Hunt has been looking to get a release from the Dragons for more than a year, and after being denied by the club and coach Shane Flanagan last year, the decision on Wednesday to give him permission to talk to other clubs – only two weeks before he would have been able to speak to rivals anyway – has gone down badly.
Hunt’s biggest concern was that he didn’t want to become a distraction in Kangaroos camp. There is no question the Dragons’ decision has made him exactly that. Hunt hates the attention his contract situation gets, but he is always up front and never dodges the issue.

When the Dragons contacted Hunt’s agent to let him know his client was free to talk to rivals, the agent said they did not want early permission because Hunt had enough on his plate representing his country. Their displeasure was also conveyed in writing to the Dragons.
It was the board that made the decision to let Hunt leave. Flanagan had been digging his heels in and wanted him to stay. Perhaps the telling moment was a suggestion by Hunt that Parramatta’s Clint Gutherson, who has also been given permission to speak to rival clubs, could play in the No.6 next year for the Dragons, which is the position the coach’s son, Kyle Flanagan, plays at present. It may have been a harmless comment, but plenty have seized upon it.

Hunt accepted the scathing end-of-season review he received from Flanagan. What got under his skin was that his salary of more than $1million a season was mentioned in that review, and that the information was leaked.
Hunt is a man of considerable standing in the game, and many feel he would be a good fit for a club approaching a premiership window. Hunt was seen talking to a person connected with the Broncos late in the week in Kangaroos camp. He has also been linked to the Bulldogs, but they are an outsider at best.
In an interesting side note, Bulldogs coach Cameron Ciraldo and general manager Phil Gould were seen having dinner with Toby Sexton and his family on the Gold Coast last week. It was before Hunt was given permission to negotiate with rivals.

It’s a nice touch after Sexton enjoyed a breakout year for Canterbury. He is a free agent on November 1 and has indicated he is keen to stay at the Bulldogs. He has impressed everyone with his improvement.
Ciraldo is certainly getting around. He is off to London with some of his coaching staff on a fact-finding tour. They are hoping to spend time with the English rugby union set-up, and perhaps with some Premier League soccer teams as well.


 

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I have no issue with keeping Sexton around IF he is willing to stay, I think Sexton along with Woods and others can benefit PLENTY from a seasoned pro. It could honestly be the difference in turning these kids into premiership winning halves or like you said a slow burn...

The biggest thing for me is it pretty much instantly opens our window... We go from top 8 contenders to premiership contenders even though we a re still one big boppa short BUT who knows with what we got in the ranks.
Sometimes the hard decision has to be made !
 

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Hunt returns fire
The ill-feeling between Ben Hunt and the Dragons has been heightened by the timing of the club’s decision to allow him to negotiate with other NRL teams.

Hunt has been looking to get a release from the Dragons for more than a year, and after being denied by the club and coach Shane Flanagan last year, the decision on Wednesday to give him permission to talk to other clubs – only two weeks before he would have been able to speak to rivals anyway – has gone down badly.
Hunt’s biggest concern was that he didn’t want to become a distraction in Kangaroos camp. There is no question the Dragons’ decision has made him exactly that. Hunt hates the attention his contract situation gets, but he is always up front and never dodges the issue.

When the Dragons contacted Hunt’s agent to let him know his client was free to talk to rivals, the agent said they did not want early permission because Hunt had enough on his plate representing his country. Their displeasure was also conveyed in writing to the Dragons.
It was the board that made the decision to let Hunt leave. Flanagan had been digging his heels in and wanted him to stay. Perhaps the telling moment was a suggestion by Hunt that Parramatta’s Clint Gutherson, who has also been given permission to speak to rival clubs, could play in the No.6 next year for the Dragons, which is the position the coach’s son, Kyle Flanagan, plays at present. It may have been a harmless comment, but plenty have seized upon it.

Hunt accepted the scathing end-of-season review he received from Flanagan. What got under his skin was that his salary of more than $1million a season was mentioned in that review, and that the information was leaked.
Hunt is a man of considerable standing in the game, and many feel he would be a good fit for a club approaching a premiership window. Hunt was seen talking to a person connected with the Broncos late in the week in Kangaroos camp. He has also been linked to the Bulldogs, but they are an outsider at best.
In an interesting side note, Bulldogs coach Cameron Ciraldo and general manager Phil Gould were seen having dinner with Toby Sexton and his family on the Gold Coast last week. It was before Hunt was given permission to negotiate with rivals.

It’s a nice touch after Sexton enjoyed a breakout year for Canterbury. He is a free agent on November 1 and has indicated he is keen to stay at the Bulldogs. He has impressed everyone with his improvement.
Ciraldo is certainly getting around. He is off to London with some of his coaching staff on a fact-finding tour. They are hoping to spend time with the English rugby union set-up, and perhaps with some Premier League soccer teams as well.


Flanno, Snr and Jnr, sure are a divisive duo, one way and another, with lots of baggage, and Snr in particular a prickly coach you cant trust. Can't see Dargons doing well with him at the helm.
 

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Flanno, Snr and Jnr, sure are a divisive duo, one way and another, with lots of baggage, and Snr in particular a prickly coach you cant trust. Can't see Dargons doing well with him at the helm.
It will be very interesting to revisit this prediction WD at the end of next season. :blush:
 

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It will be very interesting to revisit this prediction WD at the end of next season. :blush:
Yes I might be sorry I said it hehe but he doesn't seem the calm sensible unflappable coach you need to man manage current day players.

He is entitled to feel disgruntled with a disgruntled Hunt but he really has closed off communication with the guy by dropping him into it and trying to humiliate him with early release of negotiation ( but only 2 weeks!) before Nov 1 window!...pretty catty that and then he needs to try to get the best out of Hunt for 2025? Pfft :grinning:

Plus the other players would know that Kyle just doesn't have what it takes for a first grade half and his selection is nepotism at its very core.

To me shows character flaws in Flanno but anyway that's their problem :grinning:
 

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Yes I might be sorry I said it hehe but he doesn't seem the calm sensible unflappable coach you need to man manage current day players.

He is entitled to feel disgruntled with a disgruntled Hunt but he really has closed off communication with the guy by dropping him into it and trying to humiliate him with early release of negotiation ( but only 2 weeks!) before Nov 1 window!...pretty catty that and then he needs to try to get the best out of Hunt for 2025? Pfft :grinning:

Plus the other players would know that Kyle just doesn't have what it takes for a first grade half and his selection is nepotism at its very core.

To me shows character flaws in Flanno but anyway that's their problem :grinning:
Agree WD.. I admire that you have the balls to make an early prediction, by laying em on the line!

ps. Hang on can I say it like that? :tonguewink:
 

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Agree WD.. I admire that you have the balls to make an early prediction, by laying em on the line!

ps. Hang on can I say it like that? :tonguewink:
I only object to disloyalty and belittling . If they're big balls then that's ok.
 

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Gotta factor in the 2 x flanno situation he finds himself in. Blatant nepotism and it must be annoying? Dunno if that explains it all tho.
Seen enough nepotism in Junior Cricket with father’s umpiring from the end their sons are bowling from, and the favourable decisions flowing. Saw a kid in the club I played and coached at, have his career absolutely ruined, because when he got to grade, the favourable decisions dried up with proper umpires in control and he never got promoted from 5th grade. Nepotism in sport is real.
 
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Seen enough nepotism in Junior Cricket with father’s umpiring from the end their sons are bowling from, and the favourable decisions flowing. Saw a kid in the club I played and coached at, have his career absolutely ruined, because when he got to grade, the favourable decisions dried up with proper umpires in control and he never got promoted from 5th grade. Nepotism in sport is real.
100% Remember Bob Fulton’s son Scott? The fans at Brookvale used to cheer if he was a last minute withdrawal. He was was not up to first grade standard.
 
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100% Remember Bob Fulton’s son Scott? The fans at Brookvale used to cheer if he was a last minute withdrawal. He was was not up to first grade standard.
Agree with you. I thought the same about Kevin Moore who always excelled in reserve grade, but was out of his depth in first grade. His level was somewhere in between the top 2 grades. Turned out to be a better coach than a player, like a number of coaches going back many years.
 

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Seen enough nepotism in Junior Cricket with father’s umpiring from the end their sons are bowling from, and the favourable decisions flowing. Saw a kid in the club I played and coached at, have his career absolutely ruined, because when the got to grade, the favourable decisions dried up with proper umpires in control and he never got promoted from 5th grade. Nepotism in sport is real.
Feel for Kyle but he has benefited from this imbalance between his talents compared to his Dad's influence on his career.

Inflated junior career due to Snr's influence and Rorters fell for it. They quickly realised his ceiling and off loaded him to Barrett. We unfortunately honoured his 3 year contract (was a passable 9) and his Dad lands on his feet at Dargons so he is signed there. Their Aussie and SOO rep Hunt suggests Gutho as his 6 to replace Kyle.

We saw with that creep Buzz' and DT influence in twisting facts and turning public opinion to their agendas, how Kyle was somehow turned into a hard done by saint forced to bite the nose of that cheating low life Stephen Crighton. ...and still denied it even with video proof.

Having the media behind you can give you a saloon passage in twisting reality. Some get exulted and others get trashed all on a whim of who knows know. That media support has greatly helped both Flans.
 

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Feel for Kyle but he has benefited from this imbalance between his talents compared to his Dad's influence on his career.

Inflated junior career due to Snr's influence and Rorters fell for it. They quickly realised his ceiling and off loaded him to Barrett. We unfortunately honoured his 3 year contract (was a passable 9) and his Dad lands on his feet at Dargons so he is signed there. Their Aussie and SOO rep Hunt suggests Gutho as his 6 to replace Kyle.

We saw with that creep Buzz' and DT influence in twisting facts and turning public opinion to their agendas, how Kyle was somehow turned into a hard done by saint forced to bite the nose of that cheating low life Stephen Crighton. ...and still denied it even with video proof.

Having the media behind you can give you a saloon passage in twisting reality. Some get exulted and others get trashed all on a whim of who knows know. That media support has greatly helped both Flans.
Why would you feel for Kyle ? The **** has made a lot of money impersonating a footballer that many others have not been given the same luxury. He should be digging holes
 

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Why would you feel for Kyle ? The **** has made a lot of money impersonating a footballer that many others have not been given the same luxury. He should be digging holes
Yes I agree but I'm just factoring the little kid who didn't know his Dad was probably behind the scenes ensuring he got better than deserved opportunities... and the grandmother in me wants to feel for that little kid whose Dad should have known better.

Different thing later on in his career he is his own man but the hiding behind the Newscorpse media/Buzz tear down of Critta and Jnr's complete denial of biting, reflecting badly in Critta, sealed his fate in the court of public opinion for me.
 

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I have no issue with keeping Sexton around IF he is willing to stay, I think Sexton along with Woods and others can benefit PLENTY from a seasoned pro. It could honestly be the difference in turning these kids into premiership winning halves or like you said a slow burn...

The biggest thing for me is it pretty much instantly opens our window... We go from top 8 contenders to premiership contenders even though we a re still one big boppa short BUT who knows with what we got in the ranks.
Yeah, look I wont say no to Ben Hunt coming, he's good and very experienced and may have an instant desire to succeed like what Critta brought and my opinion doesn't matter.

I just don't think Sexton is a miss, besides the fundamentals which he covers ok, he has excellent mentality that can take a player far and the next level, plus push teammates. In a competition where most are on similar levels of skill, physicality, knowledge, etc it's been proven time and again that (for long term success) the system/coaching and philosophy trumps over individual skill or individual player
 
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