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That's the mainstream media for you. They pick and choose which group or victim they want the public to be outraged over.
Kind of. She's been all over the media. There just hasn't been outrage which there probably should be. She was unarmed and while she was technically trespassing, it does seem over the top.

The reports from law enforcement were that the group was advancing on them and they were told to stop and they refused so they fired and she got hit.

Watched a bit of CNN and Fox last night. Both had a segment on her. They talked about how witnesses said that it was just chaos and she wasn't doing anything.

There was also 3 other people that died but law enforcement haven't released any details about that yet.
 

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Funny that, as soon as some politicians in America are threatened, they make damn sure people pay for it within a day of it happening.

Threaten small business owners or no names in some unimportant state in America, and there will be very little done about it.
 

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If anyone wants to read about her, here's the details.

She was an Airforce veteran. Deep down the QAnon conspiracy rabbit hole and extreme right, but that doesn't excuse what happened to her.

 

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Funny that, as soon as some politicians in America are threatened, they make damn sure people pay for it within a day of it happening.

Threaten small business owners or no names in some unimportant state in America, and there will be very little done about it.
In this case it's logical. Their one job is to protect the building. They knew there was a potential for this to happen and they didn't prepare. Basically the head of the Capitol police failed to do his job so it makes sense that he'd get the sack.
 

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Inciting political violence is wrong but I feel like something is missing from that conversation....like maybe the last four years of life in America lol.
Heh. CNN. They must be right wing 'cause only right wing would report on this.
 

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Lol he’s silent because all his social media accounts have been banned so he literally can’t communicate except for press release or a podium address
He won't face the press because he can't control the narrative. He only wants to talk to his adoring misfits, because the rest of America has shown him they don't care a fig for his lies and disorder. Trump needs to be surrounded by adoring fans. Like all narcissists, he can't handle criticism.
 

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What Trump has done is sedition. Even if it makes him a martyr, he has to be arrested and tried - along with all the idiots who stormed the Capitol.
To do nothing is to sanction this behavior, and create a precedent the US doesn't want to face again.

Interesting that the Democrats have shown restraint and called for order, when the Don and his rioters were the ones screaming to lock up Hillary, and telling us what a doddery old fool Biden is. Biden looked and sounded like a President yesterday. Trump looked like a fascist dictator.
 

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He won't face the press because he can't control the narrative. He only wants to talk to his adoring misfits, because the rest of America has shown him they don't care a fig for his lies and disorder. Trump needs to be surrounded by adoring fans. Like all narcissists, he can't handle criticism.
Trump has literally faced (at some points) daily press conferences and stood in them longer than most presidents while the media actively attacked him.

one of his strengths was his willingness to go toe to toe with the press. Americans loved seeing someone finally stand up to one of the most corrupt press packs anywhere in the world.
 

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Heh. CNN. They must be right wing 'cause only right wing would report on this.
The fact is Maxine waters stood there and incited already angry people. If the press except people to believe them about Trump being ‘treasonous’ they would have had to have called many democrat politicians ‘treasonous’ over the last four years.

They would also have to call themselves treasonous because one of their biggest anchors just a few months ago said that:

‘protests do not need to be peaceful.
 

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The fact is Maxine waters stood there and incited already angry people. If the press except people to believe them about Trump being ‘treasonous’ they would have had to have called many democrat politicians ‘treasonous’ over the last four years.

They would also have to call themselves treasonous because one of their biggest anchors just a few months ago said that:

‘protests do not need to be peaceful.
I can't recall a Democrat who has incited a mob to violence.
 

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Trump has literally faced (at some points) daily press conferences and stood in them longer than most presidents while the media actively attacked him.

one of his strengths was his willingness to go toe to toe with the press. Americans loved seeing someone finally stand up to one of the most corrupt press packs anywhere in the world.
He didn't go "toe to toe". He used a bit line. The press asked him questions and he said, "fake news"

Every time he tried to actually face the press and answer questions, he ended up looking like an idiot then claimed that the opposite.
 

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Bro I just saw the video, that was straight out murder with excessive force.

Shooter may be a SS agent or part of someone's security detail.
In the USA, you never know who is armed, and who will fire the first shot. I'm glad that the mob didn't turn it into a shooting gallery; but they all knew that storming the Senate and trashing the democracy of the country was as serious as it gets. They were trying to prevent the count and declaration of Biden and Harris as the winners of the election - an act that destroys everything they claim to stand for.

They terrified the senators, and gave security guards no option but to use force when they started smashing down doors, then trashing the highest office of the senate. I'm surprised that only one person was shot, and can't be certain that it was deliberate (murder as you call it), or an accident under severe stress. Whatever - the mob, and their chief architect, are responsible for everything that unfolded.

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I can't recall a Democrat who has incited a mob to violence.
As america burned, as thousands of innocent small business owners had their lives ruined and as people were murdered (including a black police officer), Kamala Harris offered this.

Everyone, beware. [Protestors] are not going to stop before Election Day in November and they’re not going to stop after Election Day,” Harris added that “they should not” and “we should not.”

 

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I can't recall a Democrat who has incited a mob to violence.
This is the standard fake response the Trumptards and flat earthers use all the time. Just make an accusation without evidence, and repeat it until someone believes it. A sensible person can't argue back until they've checked the facts, by which time, the Trumptards are dancing around yelling "too late! We won the argument!"
 

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As america burned, as thousands of innocent small business owners had their lives ruined and as people were murdered (including a black police officer), Kamala Harris offered this.

Everyone, beware. [Protestors] are not going to stop before Election Day in November and they’re not going to stop after Election Day,” Harris added that “they should not” and “we should not.”

And you still don't understand the difference between "protests" and "rioting"


Harris condemned violent protests on Aug. 27 after multiple nights of looting and two violent deaths.

She said, “It’s no wonder people are taking to the streets and I support them. We must always defend peaceful protest and peaceful protestors. We should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence, including the shooter who was arrested for murder. And make no mistake, we will not let these vigilantes and extremists derail the path to justice.”

Feel free to pretend you didn't see that. I know you will. Someone will ask you the same question later and you will post the same video saying, "DEMOCRATS SUPPORT LOOTING"
 

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As america burned, as thousands of innocent small business owners had their lives ruined and as people were murdered (including a black police officer), Kamala Harris offered this.

Everyone, beware. [Protestors] are not going to stop before Election Day in November and they’re not going to stop after Election Day,” Harris added that “they should not” and “we should not.”

A difference between protests and sedition. BLM didn't smash their way into the Capitol building, and storm the halls of the Reps and Senate. Can you imagine the cries from the Trumptards if they had?

Where were the military and home defence yesterday? They were all over the place, knocking down BLM demonstrators, and using tear gas, so Trump could pose in front of a church, holding a bible upside down, just for a photo op.
 

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Trump has literally faced (at some points) daily press conferences and stood in them longer than most presidents while the media actively attacked him.

one of his strengths was his willingness to go toe to toe with the press. Americans loved seeing someone finally stand up to one of the most corrupt press packs anywhere in the world.
Rubbish. Trump stonewalled and accused the media of fakery. He sent out stooges to answer questions, and they acted according to his own propaganda scripts - telling the most obvious falsehoods, while Trump sat on his arse and tweeted lies, insults, and fakery on social media.

He couldn't handle being asked questions that he couldn't answer, so he built his own parallel universe where he was master of the media.
 
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