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Lov_Dog

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Well, he has always said he's done nothing wrong.

But i did read an article that suggested the pardon powers are extremely broad.

When Ford pardoned Nixon, had Nixon actually been charged or convicted of anything?
Overwhelming evidence against Nixon for a criminal conviction - the pardon squashed proceedings.
 

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When Ford pardoned Nixon, had Nixon actually been charged or convicted of anything?
No Tricky Dicky hadn’t been charged at the time of pardon but likely would’ve been and definite federal crimes. The fact that Henry jumped the gun is why many believe he lost the election to Carter in ‘76.
 

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By giving himself this deadline, he gets to continue on his pardoning spree over the next fortnight.

Question will be: can he pardon himself?
No, but this extract from Independent Australia might interest you:
Trump and his associates also face allegations of State-level crimes including tax evasion, money laundering and bank and insurance fraud. The District Attorney for New York appears to be currently investigating Trump and his company for crimes such as these, where a federal pardon offers no protection from prosecution.


There are likely to be civil cases, too. Trump has been credibly accused of sexual assault by dozens of women. A case accusing the President of rape, brought by journalist E. Jean Carroll, continues to progress through the courts.


These State-level cases against Donald Trump won’t evaporate when he leaves office, even if he tries to pardon himself. And Trump isn’t likely to retire quietly, giving Biden an opportunity to let him disappear from view. As Donald Trump Jr attempts to consolidate power within the party committee, Trump remains the strong favourite to be the Republican nominee in 2024.


Donald Trump’s continued and baleful presence on America’s national stage will likely colour Joe Biden’s judgement as to how best to proceed once in office. From a cynical perspective, tying Trump up in the courts might help neuter his political threat and exposing the public to the sheer scale of Trump’s criminality could finally get Republicans to understand that which Democrats take for granted.




Joe Biden is elected U.S. President — the world waits to see what happens next

Joe Biden is elected U.S. President — the world waits to see what happens next
Now that Donald Trump's time as President is over, there remains the question as to what his next moves will be.




One option would be for Biden to make clear that his new Attorney General will scrupulously operate independently from the President (as has always previously been the case) and let the cards fall where they may. Another is to choose not to investigate Trump at all, something Biden has already hinted may be his preference. However, the latter option may not prove tenable, with Trump continuing to snipe from the sidelines and an intransigent Republican Party that appears permanently in his thrall.


It’s an invidious choice. Failure to pursue Trump will strengthen the former President and cause distress within Democratic ranks, where the urge for vengeance remains strong. Yet the aggressive prosecution of Trump could backfire, adding impetus to a political movement that has based itself on a culture of victimhood. Add to this the fact that Biden will be prioritising a process of national healing, following an election in which Trump still garnered over 73 million votes.
 

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No, but this extract from Independent Australia might interest you:
Trump and his associates also face allegations of State-level crimes including tax evasion, money laundering and bank and insurance fraud. The District Attorney for New York appears to be currently investigating Trump and his company for crimes such as these, where a federal pardon offers no protection from prosecution.


There are likely to be civil cases, too. Trump has been credibly accused of sexual assault by dozens of women. A case accusing the President of rape, brought by journalist E. Jean Carroll, continues to progress through the courts.


These State-level cases against Donald Trump won’t evaporate when he leaves office, even if he tries to pardon himself. And Trump isn’t likely to retire quietly, giving Biden an opportunity to let him disappear from view. As Donald Trump Jr attempts to consolidate power within the party committee, Trump remains the strong favourite to be the Republican nominee in 2024.


Donald Trump’s continued and baleful presence on America’s national stage will likely colour Joe Biden’s judgement as to how best to proceed once in office. From a cynical perspective, tying Trump up in the courts might help neuter his political threat and exposing the public to the sheer scale of Trump’s criminality could finally get Republicans to understand that which Democrats take for granted.




Joe Biden is elected U.S. President — the world waits to see what happens next

Joe Biden is elected U.S. President — the world waits to see what happens next
Now that Donald Trump's time as President is over, there remains the question as to what his next moves will be.




One option would be for Biden to make clear that his new Attorney General will scrupulously operate independently from the President (as has always previously been the case) and let the cards fall where they may. Another is to choose not to investigate Trump at all, something Biden has already hinted may be his preference. However, the latter option may not prove tenable, with Trump continuing to snipe from the sidelines and an intransigent Republican Party that appears permanently in his thrall.


It’s an invidious choice. Failure to pursue Trump will strengthen the former President and cause distress within Democratic ranks, where the urge for vengeance remains strong. Yet the aggressive prosecution of Trump could backfire, adding impetus to a political movement that has based itself on a culture of victimhood. Add to this the fact that Biden will be prioritising a process of national healing, following an election in which Trump still garnered over 73 million votes.
Civil matters that don't get up in a criminal court are a big thing in the US - think OJ Simpson.

The burden of "proof" is lower and its an avenue to hurt people like Trump where it really counts - financially.
 

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You offering? Asking for a friend ...
Lol how can you even think about sex in this heat, you madman?

Oh, I’m sorry. How can your “friend” think about it on this heat?

I’ll take a rain check for now.... feel free to ask again around mid April. I’m holding up in an oxygen tent for the next 4 months.
 

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Lol how can you even think about sex in this heat, you madman?

Oh, I’m sorry. How can your “friend” think about it on this heat?

I’ll take a rain check for now.... feel free to ask again around mid April. I’m holding up in an oxygen tent for the next 4 months.
30.6 ATM outside, 18.5 inside.
 

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Civil matters that don't get up in a criminal court are a big thing in the US - think OJ Simpson.

The burden of "proof" is lower and its an avenue to hurt people like Trump where it really counts - financially.
Except that Trump never uses his own money. He can con his followers into crowd funding his bills, while he salts his cash into tax havens.
He's like Clive Palmer in that regard.
 

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Rightfully so Trump is no longer President!
He’s racist, even though he had no policies on racial segregation.

also the way he handled the fake scamdemic crisis was atrocious!
 
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