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Trump is now threatening to start his own tv station or buy one out to compete against Fox and Murdoch...seems they are the latest fools Trump is blaming for the loss.

Sky is even more radically in favour of Trump so he should be happy with Ruperts Australian arm I guess.
If they go head to head Rupert will eat him alive.

I believe the score is Trump 6 bankruptcies - Rupert 0
 
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The only fraud is the fat piece of shit who is about to be booted out of the White House.
Both Trump and Biden are puppets.
No matter who you vote for nothing is going to change and get better.

Although do expect a lot more unnecessary wars and a lot of innocent brown kids being senselessly murdered under *Biden’s watch*.
 

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Both Trump and Biden are puppets.
No matter who you vote for nothing is going to change and get better.

Although do expect a lot more unnecessary wars and a lot of innocent brown kids being senselessly murdered under *Biden’s watch*.
Trump gas been directly responsible for the senseless murder of many “brown kids”. He has increased drone strikes by as much as 4x from the Obama admin and reversed an Obama executive order which stated all civilian drone strike casualties needed to be reported.
No doubt the war will continue snd civilians will keep getting killed, but suggestions things weren’t bad under trump are completely false.
 
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Agree with Pascoe. He is an interesting guy. A financial advisor, media personality and capitalist, yet believes in social democracy....it is possible lol

The public comments in the article were revealing also.

I do fear Australia is heading towards these overly conservative, American style religion cultist politicians. It's not the Australia we used to seek to be and now the Murdoch press is enabling and employing the one sided, politically biased shock jock, ratbag, brainwashing of voters.

The majority of Aussies seem to be increasingly deciding on issues like Sports Rorts etc solely along party lines and not in what's right, and decent, and best for Australia and turning a blind eye to corruption because it's "their" party.

I worry we are heading towards USA style discourse if this trend continues.
 

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Many people just want others to take over their lives for them, so they can stop worrying about what's happening, and how to cope. They are the ones who fall for faith healers, TV evangelists, and charlatans. Once hooked, they stay loyal until a more charismatic fraudster comes along.
The illusion of certainty can be more desirable than the reality of uncertainty.
 

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If they go head to head Rupert will eaqt him alive.

I believe the score is Trump 6 bankruptcies - Rupert 0
Even Roger Ailes was smart enough (and that’s being generous) to not bite the hand that fed him once he knew he’d lost Uncle Rupert’s support. Of course, good chance Donny doesn’t heed the same advice...
 

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@Dawgfather

Do you need a hug dude to help accept the election result? I'm reaching out across the political divide to comfort you in the hope all the freedoms and values and morals Biden is going to utterly destroy and remove don't hurt you too much. It'll be ok, I'll help you through this new scary socialist world.
 

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Without a doubt. A lack of knowledge leads to anxiety which leads to fear. People will always choose anger driven by fiction over anxiety driven by truth.
There is a lot that is said about having the courage of your convictions, and while this has its place, there is a case to be made for giving acclaim to the courage of those who figure out how to live peaceably and well in the face of great uncertainty.
 

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If they go head to head Rupert will eat him alive.

I believe the score is Trump 6 bankruptcies - Rupert 0
I'm not so sure man. Towards the end Trump gravitated to the One America News Network (OAN) as they blew more smoke up his orange arse than Fox. They were also the first "network" to start covering Trumps rallies live which were a major ratings coup for them. If Trump promotes them to his loyal army of amoeba they'll follow him to the detriment of peado Rupert.
 

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I'm not so sure man. Towards the end Trump gravitated to the One America News Network (OAN) as they blew more smoke up his orange arse than Fox. They were also the first "network" to start covering Trumps rallies live which were a major ratings coup for them. If Trump promotes them to his loyal army of amoeba they'll follow him to the detriment of peado Rupert.
Already started. Earlier Trump openly criticised Fox News for not supporting him enough and even stopped inviting them to cover a lot of the stuff in lieu of OAN.

I think that will ruin him though. OAN are such a small network that they'll never have the sway of Fox and all he's doing is cutting his support at a time of need.
 

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I'm not so sure man. Towards the end Trump gravitated to the One America News Network (OAN) as they blew more smoke up his orange arse than Fox. They were also the first "network" to start covering Trumps rallies live which were a major ratings coup for them. If Trump promotes them to his loyal army of amoeba they'll follow him to the detriment of peado Rupert.
Unsurprising that Trump started doubting Fox. Take a look (for example) at Chris Wallace's performance in the first debate where he clearly facilitated a debate that was hostile to Trump and rather kind to Biden.

Surprisingly the MSNBC anchor who moderated the third (second) debate, actually did a reasonable job of being a neutral party who asked questions to both parties reasonably well (although the questions asked were generally framed and more favourable to Biden given the topics included).

The state of mainstream media around the world is in a shambles after the last four years were most MSM were completely suckered into becoming partisan hissing activists. There are not many journalists who actually 'dig up' actual news, who actually 'investigate' stories or who can speak unbiasedly when they report the 'news'.

It is unsurprising that many people (on both sides of politics) have turned to alternative and independent news sources in recent years.
 

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It's disappointing to see the different reactions from most media around the world to Trump's win in 2016 versus Biden's win in 2020.

Before Trump was even inaugurated he was labelled with every perjorative imaginable and the narrative was set that Trump was a 'blight on democracy'. People around the world were basically instructed to think that Trump was definitely a negative and that no positives were going to come from his presidency.

Yet in the 1-2 days since Biden has been named the winner, the news is 100% positive. I am yet to see a negative news stories pointing out the doubts about his lack of a policy platform despite 47 years in politics, the fact that he's changed his policy positions multiple times, his consistent foreign policy failings and the open questions regarding potential corruption with foreign dealings related to his brother and son.

Why are the media in uniform conformity regarding the messaging around Biden (only positive) and also in uniform conformity regarding the messaging of Trump (can only be negative).
 

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Already started. Earlier Trump openly criticised Fox News for not supporting him enough and even stopped inviting them to cover a lot of the stuff in lieu of OAN.

I think that will ruin him though. OAN are such a small network that they'll never have the sway of Fox and all he's doing is cutting his support at a time of need.
I hear what you're saying, but they said the same thing about Fox in the beginning. I think the fact Trump can convince 70 million people to vote for his lies means he won't have much trouble instructing them how to change the channel.
 

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Why are the media in uniform conformity regarding the messaging around Biden (only positive) and also in uniform conformity regarding the messaging of Trump (can only be negative).
The media is not in uniform conformity about Biden. There are negatives being said about Biden. They might not be your negatives, but there are negatives and they are being pointed out.

The negatives about Trump are abundant and easy to spot, which helps explain why the media are closer (but not 100%) to conformity on him. If the Republicans can learn anything from this, it is that in future they should promote candidates who don't constantly lie, bully, and abuse, because sooner or later enough people who support leadership that can at least behave to a certain level of decency, regardless of their political affiliation, will mobilise.
 
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