A way we could afford to buy Dufty, Johnson, B.Smith and Afoa for 2022 + 2 minimum wage props

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Love the effort and enthusiasm.
TK is becoming worse and worse as we hit the wooden spoon. First Nasheed with his rumours has now tried to become a comedic writer. Dave Holland has amped up the absurd buy this player now posts. Now we have another person wanting to replicate the Hasler recipe for success which got us here in the first place.

If you want a short term solution to win a few games next year fine but you will end up back where we started. All good things come with proper planning and structure.
 
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The problem with making plans about how much you’re gonna pay somebody is when they say no.
 

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TK is becoming worse and worse as we hit the wooden spoon. First Nasheed with his rumours has now tried to become a comedic writer. Dave Holland has amped up the absurd by this player now posts. Now we have another person wanting to replicate the Hasler recipe for success which got us here in the first place.

If you want a short term solution to win a few games next year fine but you will end up back where we started. All good things come with proper planning and structure.
Not why. There's nothing wrong with back ended deals as long as you stay salary cap compliant (in our case we weren't for other reasons).
 

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We can always offer up someone else (RFM). If they lose Finucane maybe they'd be interested in Jacko
I don’t think any of those players are really going to interest the Storm as trade bait.
 

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Not why. There's nothing wrong with back ended deals as long as you stay salary cap compliant (in our case we weren't for other reasons).
And as long as you don't sign players like Aaron Woods while missing out on a player like Tedesco. Des never had an eye for signing talent.
 

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Yes you might not agree with the exact figures I've quoted but I've got as close as I can.

If we did something like this we could potentially afford all the players above for 2022 and beyond

Main points are

- Sell DWZ to the Tigers or whoever. If he's on 800K for next year as they say, we pay 50/50 at 400K and the Tigers pay 400K for 2022
- Sell Flanagan. He's on around 450K reportedly. If someone (Sharks) will sign him for 250K we have to throw in 200K a year for 2022 and 23. He might fetch a little more hopefully.
- Sell Elliott (480K). If he gets 350K we contribute 130K for 2022 and 23
- Sell Corey Allan (400K). He should be able to get at least 300K a season elsewhere. We contribute 100K per year for 2022 and 23

We offer the Storm first pick of the 4 players above at the discounted rates for B.Smith for 2022.

We need to tie up Smith NOW for 3 years at least before the new Brisbane team come into negotiations. They'll offer him close to a MIL a season. We can upgrade him now (600K) for 2022 (extra couple of hundred Ks in his pocket) plus pay probably slightly more than what the new team would offer for 2023 and 24. (1M a season) We badly need to get this deal done now for 2022 or we'll be without a decent hooker all next year then offering him 900Ka season for 2023 and 24 (which may not be enough) and we'll have missed the incentive of the extra 200K for 2022. We also have his mate JAC as an incentive remember.

B. Smith 600K for 2022. and 1M a season for 2023 and 2024 (average of 866K a season for 3 years)
Johnson 450K a season for 3 years
Dufty 300K for 2022, 450K a year for 2023 and 24 (average of 400K a season)
Bunty Afoa 340K for 2022, 360K a year for 2023 and 24
2 x minimum wage BIG props at 120K a season each. Consider islanders currently playing Super League or young props currently in Canterbury Cup / Qld comp

Don't re-sign RFM at the end of 2022. Good player but injury prone. Let Jackson go to UK hopefully at the end of 2023. He'll be worn out. Shop Stimson early also.

Surplus of around 140K for 2023 and over 1M surplus for 2024 (more if the cap rises). For 2024 we could buy the best prop in the comp or 2 very decent props. We can use this money for upgrades too IF needed hopefully.

Please see the breakdown below (rough guide) Yes not 100% accurate I KNOW but it's a ballpark figure



202220232024
Matt Dufty300,000450,000450,000
Josh Addo-Carr550,000550,000550,000
Brent Naden400,000400,000400,000
Nick Cotric650,000650,000650,000
Jayden Okunbor150,000150,000150,000
Matt Burton450,000450,000450,000
Shaun Johnson450,000450,000450,000
Bunty Afoa340,000360,000360,000
Brandon Smith600,0001,000,0001,000,000
Jack Hetherington350,000350,000350,000
Raymond Faitala-Mariner400,00000
Josh Jackson (gets an extra 200K in long standing player allowance)*500,000*500,0000
Luke Thompson750,000750,000750,000
Jake Averillo200,000200,000200,000
Renouf Atoni150,000150,000150,000
Ava Seumanufagai120,000120,000120,000
Tui Katoa120,000120,000120,000
Watson Heleta120,000120,000120,000
Brandon Wakeham150,00000
Aaron Schoupp120,000120,000120,000
Nick Meaney120,000120,000120,000
Paul Alamoti120,000120,000120,000
NEW PROP120,000120,000120,000
NEW PROP120,000120,000120,000
Bailey Biondi-Odo120,000120,000120,000
Corey Waddell200,000200,000200,000
Joe Stimson250,000250,0000
Matt Doorey120,000120,000120,000
Jackson Topine120,000120,000120,000
Bradley Deitz120,000120,000120,000
REPLACEMENT for J.Jackson 202400120,000
REPLACEMENT for J.Stimson 202400120,000
REPLACEMENT for RFM 2023/240120,000120,000
REPLACEMENT for B.Wakeham 2023/240120,000120,000
Dallin Watene-Zelezniak400,00000
Kyle Flanagan200,000200,0000
Adam Elliott130,000130,0000
Corey Allan100,000100,0000
$9,110,000$8,970,000$8,030,000
$140,000+$1,080,000+
Could you please flesh this out a bit more
I’d like to see more analysis in your work before agreeing to support or comment
Regards
 

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Wow….
Great effort though.

I just want the club to shock the sh&t out of us and the league world by saying….

“we’ve signed Smith for next year, we’ve also signed Haas who is leaving g Broncos early, and for 2023 we have Papenhuyzen locked up”
 

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The club should ride it out. They should have shipped off players in the offseason when barrett arrived. I can’t believe dwz is on 800k. That is insane money backended or not he was unwanted by penrith. His market value is 250-300k at best.
 

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Nasheed here,
We could afford most players, we would just need to back end contracts.
And to be honest it’s likely what will be needed if we go for the premium prop and hooker strategy whilst picking up handy players elsewhere.
I don’t see many opportunities to sign kids at 120 from our juniors.
I wonder how many older players are content with min wage.
 

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TK is becoming worse and worse as we hit the wooden spoon. First Nasheed with his rumours has now tried to become a comedic writer. Dave Holland has amped up the absurd by this player now posts. Now we have another person wanting to replicate the Hasler recipe for success which got us here in the first place.

If you want a short term solution to win a few games next year fine but you will end up back where we started. All good things come with proper planning and structure.
Say what.
Why the slur?
What rumours have I said that weren’t true?
 

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Yes you might not agree with the exact figures I've quoted but I've got as close as I can.

If we did something like this we could potentially afford all the players above for 2022 and beyond

Main points are

- Sell DWZ to the Tigers or whoever. If he's on 800K for next year as they say, we pay 50/50 at 400K and the Tigers pay 400K for 2022
- Sell Flanagan. He's on around 450K reportedly. If someone (Sharks) will sign him for 250K we have to throw in 200K a year for 2022 and 23. He might fetch a little more hopefully.
- Sell Elliott (480K). If he gets 350K we contribute 130K for 2022 and 23
- Sell Corey Allan (400K). He should be able to get at least 300K a season elsewhere. We contribute 100K per year for 2022 and 23

We offer the Storm first pick of the 4 players above at the discounted rates for B.Smith for 2022.

We need to tie up Smith NOW for 3 years at least before the new Brisbane team come into negotiations. They'll offer him close to a MIL a season. We can upgrade him now (600K) for 2022 (extra couple of hundred Ks in his pocket) plus pay probably slightly more than what the new team would offer for 2023 and 24. (1M a season) We badly need to get this deal done now for 2022 or we'll be without a decent hooker all next year then offering him 900Ka season for 2023 and 24 (which may not be enough) and we'll have missed the incentive of the extra 200K for 2022. We also have his mate JAC as an incentive remember.

B. Smith 600K for 2022. and 1M a season for 2023 and 2024 (average of 866K a season for 3 years)
Johnson 450K a season for 3 years
Dufty 300K for 2022, 450K a year for 2023 and 24 (average of 400K a season)
Bunty Afoa 340K for 2022, 360K a year for 2023 and 24
2 x minimum wage BIG props at 120K a season each. Consider islanders currently playing Super League or young props currently in Canterbury Cup / Qld comp

Don't re-sign RFM at the end of 2022. Good player but injury prone. Let Jackson go to UK hopefully at the end of 2023. He'll be worn out. Shop Stimson early also.

Surplus of around 140K for 2023 and over 1M surplus for 2024 (more if the cap rises). For 2024 we could buy the best prop in the comp or 2 very decent props. We can use this money for upgrades too IF needed hopefully.

Please see the breakdown below (rough guide) Yes not 100% accurate I KNOW but it's a ballpark figure



202220232024
Matt Dufty300,000450,000450,000
Josh Addo-Carr550,000550,000550,000
Brent Naden400,000400,000400,000
Nick Cotric650,000650,000650,000
Jayden Okunbor150,000150,000150,000
Matt Burton450,000450,000450,000
Shaun Johnson450,000450,000450,000
Bunty Afoa340,000360,000360,000
Brandon Smith600,0001,000,0001,000,000
Jack Hetherington350,000350,000350,000
Raymond Faitala-Mariner400,00000
Josh Jackson (gets an extra 200K in long standing player allowance)*500,000*500,0000
Luke Thompson750,000750,000750,000
Jake Averillo200,000200,000200,000
Renouf Atoni150,000150,000150,000
Ava Seumanufagai120,000120,000120,000
Tui Katoa120,000120,000120,000
Watson Heleta120,000120,000120,000
Brandon Wakeham150,00000
Aaron Schoupp120,000120,000120,000
Nick Meaney120,000120,000120,000
Paul Alamoti120,000120,000120,000
NEW PROP120,000120,000120,000
NEW PROP120,000120,000120,000
Bailey Biondi-Odo120,000120,000120,000
Corey Waddell200,000200,000200,000
Joe Stimson250,000250,0000
Matt Doorey120,000120,000120,000
Jackson Topine120,000120,000120,000
Bradley Deitz120,000120,000120,000
REPLACEMENT for J.Jackson 202400120,000
REPLACEMENT for J.Stimson 202400120,000
REPLACEMENT for RFM 2023/240120,000120,000
REPLACEMENT for B.Wakeham 2023/240120,000120,000
Dallin Watene-Zelezniak400,00000
Kyle Flanagan200,000200,0000
Adam Elliott130,000130,0000
Corey Allan100,000100,0000
$9,110,000$8,970,000$8,030,000
$140,000+$1,080,000+
Ladies and Gentlemen.
Des Hasler is officially on The Kennel
 

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The club should ride it out. They should have shipped off players in the offseason when barrett arrived. I can’t believe dwz is on 800k. That is insane money backended or not he was unwanted by penrith. His market value is 250-300k at best.
Looks like this is the only way.
We cant seem to get off this player merry go round.
Too many overpaid non performers so cant buy any x factors.
 

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To offload DWZ at 400 freight we need that then have that money to buy a player at 400. Is there then a better player than DWZ out there at 400? Is it now worth it?
 
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