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Sauron???!!!

Disagree - both Ryan and Ennis made grand finals. So ultimately their captaincy was a success. Jackson, Graham and whoever it was this year (still unsure)... Can't even call them tackling machines, they literally went to shit. The captaincy tore them apart.

Andrew Ryan..... Michael Ennis...... After Ennis it went down hill

Nothing taking a break from the dogs to prepare for our wooden spoon next season.

Don't want Luai....

I agree we need his D

More of a voice?!. In his first game he was barking orders at everyone.

RFM was at his best playing on the left at 2nd row... Feeding off Foran. Since Foran left, RFM was moved into the middle... And has struggled since. Even before the injury once Foran left.

Feck if that's the case our team is looking alright... I'd go... 1. Averillo 2. Skelton 3. Kiraz 4. Burns 5. Addo Carr 6. Burton 7. Sexton 8. Max King 9. Reed Mahoney 10. Pangai Jr 11. Kikau 12. Preston 13. Edwards 14. Topine 15. Hughes 16. Pele 17. Sutton

When in reality Penrith just went back a couple of gears. Think our team rubbed off on them lol

Would be more along the lines that in the last 50 minutes of the game we actually won the scoreboard bla bla.

I miss Barrett and Dean pay

This is worse than Barrett standard.

Can understand why they were holding off debuting Skelton. Can tell he was rugby

Think it starts with getting rid of both Gould and Ciraldo. The hard truth is that we should have signed Shane Flanagan as coach. We needed experience from the top

What the actual fuck is that crap?. That lineup is attrocious

Mmm this sounds like a story about a coaching staff that will likely be doomed in the future

If it has to be anyone... Waddell. He is a forward. Okunbor is a winger pretending to be a forward and never will be an NRL standard forward at our club or any other club. He is a backline player... Full stop.

Better kicks from grub in his appearances this year

I honestly... Hope we win. But even with the Broncos players out... Im not confident. Probably just the last 6 years has taken its toll on me as a fan

One leg Reynolds?

So.... Faitala Mariner can barely breathe... Where's the prop on the bench to replace him!? What Tevita? I think RFM with pneumonia probably breathes better than TPJ aha

Only thing is fox has the speed at times to make up for the mistakes. Unsure if Skelton does

Another Hopoate

Ice for cramp tho?

Mmm Skelton against Selwyn Cobbo............ Feck

Still walking around fine. But heavily iced up.

Yeah it's got some kind of fungal infection from one of the QLDers

Two options if out. Kiraz goes back to wing and Alamoti centre.... Or straight swap Addo Carr for Skelton

He was walking around fine at end of game just then shaking hands with qlders

Unsure if bad.

And would explain why we were happy to let Averillo and Alamoti go. Knowing they aren't going to play back up. They do deserve a FG spot, more so Averillo, on fence re Alamoti at this stage of his career... Maybe in 3 or 4 years.

I see that as more a defensive ploy. Topine is obviously a good defender so trying to use him to fix that shotty left side defence

Only thing I probably wouldn't have done was moe Burns to the left, taken Quai Ward off and put Skelton (although awesome LB and run). But didn't make sense to make that change at the point in the game.

Yea

So they should hopeless *****

Someone needs to be out there giving them a fucking rocket up there arse.

Barrett was doing a better job at this rate. Should've kept Dean pay

We certainly shouldn't have gotten rid of Averillo. Should've let alamoti go

And this is what happens when we use the rebuild excuse or don't have the cattle. It breeds mediocrity and doesn't keep the players accountable.

What I don't get... Stats... 20 mins in... King and TPJ 4 missed tackles each... Shit... Preston first year... 14 tackles no misses... Our 'experienced players' are duds

Both Gould and CC can fuck off.

I'm sick of this team

Or maybe the middles need better line speed and keep up with Mahoney

Might tear a hammy at the same time

Yeah I heard that we signed him from the Swans, will give Burton a run for his money with his long kicking game.

What the feck....

Are you sure about that? This happened last game. Perham moved to centre.... And Rajab FB.... But here he is still in the team.

We should've gotten over the bullshit and just signed Shane Flanagan who has won grand finals and coached teams who didn't have the best rosters but still managed to make finals

Or they may go... Averillo to FB, Kiraz centre, Wilson wing.... Or Kiraz FB, Wilson wing... If Perham continues his form

So no props on the bench....... What!?!!!!!

Everyone says Wilson to FB... But what's he like at FB. I believe even untried at FB in NSW CUp?. Do we go Kiraz back to FB.. Addo Carr one wing and Wilson the other?

No one was calling for the ball. Both Olapau or Burton, the spray from Averillo was rightly so.

Perham Experiment is over. Put Averillo back to FB. Then have Crighton and Xerri as our centres next year.

They don't count metres gained as sideways running

Have to agree to disagree. Whenever TPJ was off the field our defensive line looked more solid. When he came on he would rush up out of the line consistently causing gaps in the D line.

Take TPJ out

Yes. Olapau won't be the answer at 7 long term I don't think. I think he will eventually move into a ball playing lock.

Pal he scored against the Tigers. Get your facts right pal.

I'm more pissed off with Declan Casey, he let more trys in then perham

He gained more metres then any other player in our team.

Hope so!

On Fox Sports late mail

Bulldogs supremo Phil Gould has confirmed Jacob Kiraz won’t play after failing to recover from an ankle injury in time. Young winger Blake Wilson is named in the reserves and is a chance of making his NRL debut. The other option is to move Jayden Okunbor to the wing. The Bulldogs could also be...

Kiraz said that did he?

And Parra

Didn't ruin our attack like Flanadud does.

Wrong. KO will start at 6, with Reynolds back to Cup, Nu Brown back on bench

Absolutely horrible referreeing. That call will now more then likely cost us the game. Can fans lobby for the club to put in an official complaint?. That was ridiculous. For one it was a two on one tackle, the second there is no way Waddell hears that... Third how is it a professional foul?.

Agree wtf is dog v dragon

Is sending an unsolicited text like this considered criminal.... Or no?

Yeah no it's not. I wish it was though. Would make sense for both us and the sharks. Trindall wasting away at the sharks behind Hynes and Moylan

When we finally get on the scoreboard after being flogged 30 - 4

Hear Averillo for Trindall

My opinion is they didn't want to blood Olapau against a good side (Sharks are good, just down this year compared to last) in case we got flogged and it dented the young kids confidence. Have Dragons and Raiders next two games so gives him some time against average sides to find his feet.

Think you'll more see... 1. Perham 2. Okunbor 3. Burns 4. Alamoti 5. Skelton

No confidence in the halfback. In fact I swear for the last 15 - 20 Flanagan went to Hooker and Mahoney was playing halfback.

I think his emotions got the better of him due to his balls being squeezed.

I confusion

He has been playing like that since Papi got injured last year. Always had a lot of potential. It's just a shame we had a bunch of coaches who couldn't get the best out of him. Shame Ciro didn't get his hands on him.

Bit of a Dylan Edwards type

Wasn't Idris named rookie of the year in 08?

Will be interesting next year with Crighton and Xerri coming. Tbh I would replace Averillo with Crighton at right centre.... Let Xerri have half a season in NSW cup to get match fitness up before even considering him. But at this rate should not replace Alamoti and Crighton should not replace...

Doesn't need the pace when he has JAC outside him. Start thinking Olam/JAC combination at storm. But difference being I think Alamoti has bucket loads more potential than Olam.

Look this may already have its own thread. But quite frankly, we have a gem. What a player. A rookie... Plays the full 85 mins (has been playing the full 80 nearly since rnd 2). Tonight 125 metres,.... 47 tackles, 2 misses. This kid has a very very bright future, and Gus is right, future...

Nearly every kick return he beats the first man with his evasiveness. Averages around 180 metres per game so far. Not bad for a rookie FB. Give the kid time.

Bring back Josh Jackson from retirement... Argument can be we have a part of his salary in the salary cap. So he can play at least a game. Give him a proper send off

Unsure where the criticism for Perham has come from. Noting how much FG he has played, he has been more than solid for us and very good in defence. Flanagan I can understand, he is trying to develop a running game, but truth be told everytime he attempts to run he puts our attack on the...

Thanks Deehsan

My vision has come true

No no no no. Can't direct the okay at halfback... How would he go as hooker

Payne Hass... Whatever year he comes off contract.

Really doesn't pass... Was a decent pass out to the fox to have him on the outside of his winger. First player to do that since addo carr has been here and has taken advantage length of the field

More like after Sherwin... Potentially Kimmorley

Olapau?

Is the game changing to one on the bench???!!

Crazy to think Klemmer is bigger than Mase. What a pussy Klemmer is

BS shouldn't be. Mahoney is shitting all over him. Seems as though Ciraldo has unlocked parts of Mahoney's game that wasn't evident at Parra.

Both a credit to Burton for his effort today. Playing to his strength... But also to Ciraldo... He is constantly allowing our players to play to their strength and quickly changed the game plan after rnd 1. I think we will see the team evolve over the next 6 weeks into one that is going to...

He is our Brian too