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Well you can blame Todd Greenberg for that

Geoff Toovey... well sort of. And look how that turned out. They got dud Trent Barrett

I think Des was making some left field (risky) decisions in an experiment that he was losing control of. I don't think he intentionally tried to bring the club down.

This should probably be in the 'excuses for Manly loss' thread: ps://www.nrl.com/news/2019/05/04/holland-wishes-hed-listened-to-hasler-more/

Sorry couldn't find the right thread for this, The one about 'excuses for loss': https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/05/04/holland-wishes-hed-listened-to-hasler-more/

Thanks mr invisible. Much appreciated.

Hi all. I'll' just come out and say it... i'm a manly supporter. I know i know, i shouldn't be here - and the rest of it. But i just wanted to say, i feel a great level of respect when fans like 'Bankstownsquare' can express or argue an opinion objectively, even though it might not sit well with...