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Can't believe how dreadful Carrick has become this season, he was one of our best players last campaign yet his struggled to even get a single assist this campaign
He's past his use by date, our midfield is a complete joke
He's past his use by date, our midfield is a complete joke
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van Gaal can't come soon enough, Giggs either gets retained by van Gaal as part of his coaching team or he can go coach the United U21s and get proper managerial experience
He has a lot to learn and it showed today, his team selection including Young was head scratching, I understand he wants to give everybody a chance to impress but Young has started 16 games this season and has been absolutely wank in every single one of them
Clearly the crossing game wasn't working but we still persisted with it.. gave me flashbacks to that game against Fulham where we sent in 81 crosses
Also, we won't be playing a 4-3-3 with this current squad, nobody can pick out a player in the box with their crosses - our wingers are useless
And on the transfer front, you can say players will want to come because we're United and will have an experienced manager in van Gaal but realistically how many players out there are we looking at to bring in? How many will want to leave their current club to come to a United squad that's without CL football and that's in a rebuilding phase that may take a season or two to complete - the asnwer, not many world class players out there will want to leave their current clubs
Only positive that comes out of this game is that we'll surely won't qualify for Europa League next season so we'll just focus on getting back into the Top 4 next campaign under van Gaal hopefully
He has a lot to learn and it showed today, his team selection including Young was head scratching, I understand he wants to give everybody a chance to impress but Young has started 16 games this season and has been absolutely wank in every single one of them
Clearly the crossing game wasn't working but we still persisted with it.. gave me flashbacks to that game against Fulham where we sent in 81 crosses
Also, we won't be playing a 4-3-3 with this current squad, nobody can pick out a player in the box with their crosses - our wingers are useless
And on the transfer front, you can say players will want to come because we're United and will have an experienced manager in van Gaal but realistically how many players out there are we looking at to bring in? How many will want to leave their current club to come to a United squad that's without CL football and that's in a rebuilding phase that may take a season or two to complete - the asnwer, not many world class players out there will want to leave their current clubs
Only positive that comes out of this game is that we'll surely won't qualify for Europa League next season so we'll just focus on getting back into the Top 4 next campaign under van Gaal hopefully
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lol I think he did fall asleep. I don't blame him, we played shit
http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/03/sir-a...seat-during-manchester-united-defeat-4717471/
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I can't fault De Gea, especially when the midfield and defense leave him expose like that there's not much he can do
His clearances were shit because the midfield/defense went for the quick way out and just passed it back to De Gea while Sunderland were pressing high up the pitch
For the final 2 matches against Hull City and Southampton, Giggs has to get rid of the 'give everybody an equal chance to impress' bullshit because if they were good enough, they would have made their claims when Moyes was still manager
Ashley Young for example was a pile of wank, he should have been the first player taken off in fact he shouldn't have even started the game - while Valencia's crosses are shit, he gives us width and Mata should have stayed on because we were trying to break a team down, Kagawa should have been on the bench at the very least and bought on to link up with Mata when it was clear the crossing plan wasn't working
His clearances were shit because the midfield/defense went for the quick way out and just passed it back to De Gea while Sunderland were pressing high up the pitch
For the final 2 matches against Hull City and Southampton, Giggs has to get rid of the 'give everybody an equal chance to impress' bullshit because if they were good enough, they would have made their claims when Moyes was still manager
Ashley Young for example was a pile of wank, he should have been the first player taken off in fact he shouldn't have even started the game - while Valencia's crosses are shit, he gives us width and Mata should have stayed on because we were trying to break a team down, Kagawa should have been on the bench at the very least and bought on to link up with Mata when it was clear the crossing plan wasn't working
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What about Wenger?
Fair point about De Gea but really I share your agony regarding Young. I wanted to throw the remote at the TV watching him dribble around in circles. Mata was playing very direct which was was needed, all his touches were quality yesterday.
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Wenger put together the current Arsenal Squad. Moyes was given an aging squad.
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Roberto Martinez has already come out and said the aging squad is not an excuse you can use for the way we've performed this season
(source: http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/300951.html & http://metro.co.uk/2014/04/20/why-roberto-martinez-is-right-about-manchester-uniteds-david-moyes-4703976/)
He hit the nail on the head, everybody keeps talking about the aging squad but how many time has Ferdinard or Giggs played this season? Moyes inherited the Champions of England
Vidic and Evra are more than capable of playing another season or two at the top level, Carrick was one of our best players last season and Fletcher has only come back from illness recently, other then that who else is aging? van Persie is at the peak of his career at the moment and that's about it
Cannot hide behind the fact Moyes has 2 transfer windows to fix the midfield but he was busy chasing unrealistic targets when he could have sealed the deal on both Kevin Strootman and Thiago Alcantara
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Age in bracket for the current Manchester United roster
Goalkeeper: De Gea (23), Lindegaard (30), Amos (24)
Fullback: Rafael (23), Evra (32), Buttner (25)
Centreback: Jones (22), Vidic (32), Ferdinard (35), Smalling (24), Evans (26)
Midfield: Kagawa (25), Mata (26), Fellaini (26), Cleverley (24), Carrick (32), Fletcher (30)
Winger: Januzaj (19), Nani (27), Giggs (40), Young (28), Valencia (28)
Striker: van Persie (30), Rooney (28), Hernandez (25), Welbeck (23)
As shown above, hardly an aging side that everybody keeps saying, plenty of young players and players that are meant to be in their prime so the whole argument of Moyes inherited an aging squad is total bullshit in my opinion - we haven't been good enough, how can you lose that many matches with the likes of van Persie, Rooney, Kagawa, Mata etc in your starting line up is beyond me
There are players listed above who aren't Manchester United quality, some of them belong in the Championship yet they still got to start big matches under Moyes - van Gaal has to come in and clear out the deadwood
Goalkeeper: De Gea (23), Lindegaard (30), Amos (24)
Fullback: Rafael (23), Evra (32), Buttner (25)
Centreback: Jones (22), Vidic (32), Ferdinard (35), Smalling (24), Evans (26)
Midfield: Kagawa (25), Mata (26), Fellaini (26), Cleverley (24), Carrick (32), Fletcher (30)
Winger: Januzaj (19), Nani (27), Giggs (40), Young (28), Valencia (28)
Striker: van Persie (30), Rooney (28), Hernandez (25), Welbeck (23)
As shown above, hardly an aging side that everybody keeps saying, plenty of young players and players that are meant to be in their prime so the whole argument of Moyes inherited an aging squad is total bullshit in my opinion - we haven't been good enough, how can you lose that many matches with the likes of van Persie, Rooney, Kagawa, Mata etc in your starting line up is beyond me
There are players listed above who aren't Manchester United quality, some of them belong in the Championship yet they still got to start big matches under Moyes - van Gaal has to come in and clear out the deadwood
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Same reason why Sir Alex had deals tied down but left it up to Moyes on whether or not he wanted the players
Sir Alex gave Moyes the summer to build his squad, he had the entire transfer window only to panic buy Fellaini at the 11th hour before the window shut, Moyes also had the January transfer window but he signed Mata which was opportunistic
Don't forget the current squad won the league by 11 points last season so it was clearly working for Sir Alex, why change it?
Sure, the players have to cop some of the blame this season but having Moyes in charge didn't help (eg chopping and changing the line up, we haven't fielded the same starting 11 this season - 52/53 different line ups in 52/53 matches)