Who to keep from roster

[finchie]

Can I release contracted imposters too
Is that an available option
I’d keep 7 of the 33 players if I’m being honest
Coz only 7 of our squad are fg standard and I’m being awfully generous

 

[The DoggFather]

Renouf Atoni - gone
Dean Britt - gone
Christian Crichton - gone
Will Hopoate - FUCK OFF ASAP
Paul Karaitiana - Who?
Sione Katoa - gone
Tui Katoa - gone
Lachlan Lewis - gone
Jeremy Marshall-King - gone
Nick Meaney - 1 year
Dylan Napa - FUCK OFF ASAP
Ofahiki Ogden - 1 year
Jayden Okunbor - 1 year
Chris Patolo - Who?
Kurt Picken - Who?
James Roumanos - gone
Ava Seumanufagai - Don't know yet
Chris Smith - gone

 

[The DoggFather]

Can I release contracted imposters too
Is that an available option
I’d keep 7 of the 33 players if I’m being honest
Coz only 7 of our squad are fg standard and I’m being awfully generous

If money and replacements weren't an issue, I'd honestly just keep Thommo and Topine and wouldn't give a flying fuck about the rest.

 

[bradyk]

Atoni - keep, bench/depth
Britt - gone
Crichton - gone
Hopoate - gone
Kataitiana - ???
S. Katoa - gone
T. Katoa - gone
Lewis - gone
JMK - keep, bench/depth
Meaney - keep, depth
Napa - gone
Ogden - keep, depth
Okunbor - keep, depth
Patolo - ???
Picken - ???
Roumanos - gone
Seumanufagai - gone
Smith - gone (too many second rowers)

Atoni and Okunbor only must keeps for me.

 

[Mak Dogs]

Id only keep okunbor. The rest have had more then there share of chances but one good game every now and then is not good enough. Hopefully baz moves them all on

 

[Moedogg]

I would like to release all those that are currently off contract but we still need to make up a 30 man squad and there is not much available on the market.

I'd be offering 1 year contracts to Atoni, Meaney, Lewis and JMK, then phase them out slowly.

Okunbor is the only player in the whole squad that has shown improvement and looks like he will get a contract renewal. Can you believe it?

 

[ddt192]

Atoni & Okka.

 

[LordSidious66]

Renouf Atoni - gone
Dean Britt - gone
Christian Crichton - gone
Will Hopoate - FUCK OFF ASAP
Paul Karaitiana - Who?
Sione Katoa - gone
Tui Katoa - gone
Lachlan Lewis - gone
Jeremy Marshall-King - gone
Nick Meaney - 1 year
Dylan Napa - FUCK OFF ASAP
Ofahiki Ogden - 1 year
Jayden Okunbor - 1 year
Chris Patolo - Who?
Kurt Picken - Who?
James Roumanos - gone
Ava Seumanufagai - Don't know yet
Chris Smith - gone

Would keep Atoni and get rid of Ogden, but that's just me.

 

[B-Train]

Atoni, Okunbur and Meaney if all willing to accept cheap two year deals as solid backup options and squad players..

The rest are all dead weight. Hopefully we can shop Flanagan and a few other under contract players like Stimson to free up more roster spots and cap space.

 

[The DoggFather]

Would keep Atoni and get rid of Ogden, but that's just me.

I would give Ogden one last chance, basically on minimum wage.

Might be just wishful thinking that he may come good.

 

[Donkey Slayer]

Should see at least these players promoted
Top 30 and Dev

Flegg players

Bailey Boindi Odo top 30
Chris Patolo 116kg top 30
Beni Teaupa 110kg top 30
Mosese Pope 115kg dev
Ryan Gray dev

Dont know to much about

Laitia Moceidreke big flegg winger
Kurt Picken
Paul Katrikana
Eli Clark
Aidan Manowski
Chase Chapman ?
Mateo Tatola looks small

From mounties
Rhys Davies
Dean Matterson is he any good

 

[James zac]

My two cents worth the keepers for me Lewis smith Meaney atoni okunbor marshal king depth only the rest can take a hike

 

[Dawain87]

I really cant wait for Okunbor to get back on the filed - I feel like he knows he needs to pay back the club with big games.

 

[TwinTurbo]

It is worth keeping in mind that there are 30 contracted players out of which only 13 are guaranteed to play NRL any given week plus 4 with a reasonable chance that they will play. The other 13 are back ups or backs ups to the back ups. Replacing a $115k player (NRL minimum) with another $115k player doesn't save any Cap space. We can't get rid of 2 x $115k players and replace them with 1 x $230k player, because we still need to have 30 players. A lot of the players people keep wanting to get rid of are back ups to the back ups and on minimum or close to minimum contracts, like Crichton, SKatoa, or Roumanos who isn't even a back up to the back up.

To free up Cap space (which is the only thing that is relevant) we need to look at players in positions that command well above the minimum, spine obviously being top of that list, then specialists like prop and centre. Ogden is a prime example, he's a prop and commanding prop money which currently he doesn't deserve. He isn't doing the job as a bench player or even as a back up. Atoni similarly, right now he isn't justifying the Cap space that he consumes, sure he's playing OK'ish occasionally, but he's on far from the minimum so there is a lot (of Cap space) to be gained by moving him on. Conversely Meaney who is a very decent back up for full back or wing. Then there are players who may well be back ups right now, but they may just well be regular NRL players in the not too distant future, Okunbor is an example of that, they are worth keeping on potential, but be prepared to cut them loose when they aren't.

Our issue as I see it right now is we don't have any real gun players, the ones you just give the ball to and know they can create something out of nothing. The inspirations that lift the players around them. We need at least 2 of them, preferably in spine positions. And flicking a back up to the back up on the minimum is not going to help one bit in securing them (because you have to replace them with another back up to the back up on the minimum).

Go Dogs

 

[Howie B]

I really cant wait for Okunbor to get back on the filed - I feel like he knows he needs to pay back the club with big games.

Yep me too. He gives us good carries off his own line plus he is a genuine target in the air.

I would like to see a backline next year similar to DWZ/Okonbur/Cotric/Naden/JAC/Burton/Flanno with Avo at 14.

DWZ obviously isnt a ball player but neither is the panthers or raiders fullbacks. With this back 5 we would have no worries getting out of trouble and i think we could score points as well.

Of course alot can happen between now and then. Allan may come good. Flanno may continue to struggle and Avo could start in the halves. But I would really love to see JAC and Okonbur as our wingers next year. Hopefully Cotric gets some time at right centre to prove his worth. He didnt get much of a chance to start the year and had no quality early ball from the halves

 

[Howie B]

It is worth keeping in mind that there are 30 contracted players out of which only 13 are guaranteed to play NRL any given week plus 4 with a reasonable chance that they will play. The other 13 are back ups or backs ups to the back ups. Replacing a $115k player (NRL minimum) with another $115k player doesn't save any Cap space. We can't get rid of 2 x $115k players and replace them with 1 x $230k player, because we still need to have 30 players. A lot of the players people keep wanting to get rid of are back ups to the back ups and on minimum or close to minimum contracts, like Crichton, SKatoa, or Roumanos who isn't even a back up to the back up.

To free up Cap space (which is the only thing that is relevant) we need to look at players in positions that command well above the minimum, spine obviously being top of that list, then specialists like prop and centre. Ogden is a prime example, he's a prop and commanding prop money which currently he doesn't deserve. He isn't doing the job as a bench player or even as a back up. Atoni similarly, right now he isn't justifying the Cap space that he consumes, sure he's playing OK'ish occasionally, but he's on far from the minimum so there is a lot (of Cap space) to be gained by moving him on. Conversely Meaney who is a very decent back up for full back or wing. Then there are players who may well be back ups right now, but they may just well be regular NRL players in the not too distant future, Okunbor is an example of that, they are worth keeping on potential, but be prepared to cut them loose when they aren't.

Our issue as I see it right now is we don't have any real gun players, the ones you just give the ball to and know they can create something out of nothing. The inspirations that lift the players around them. We need at least 2 of them, preferably in spine positions. And flicking a back up to the back up on the minimum is not going to help one bit in securing them (because you have to replace them with another back up to the back up on the minimum).

Go Dogs

Pretty good point.

Paul Kent made a fair comment on NRL 360 last night. We need to recruit blokes who can change the way the team plays.

He mentioned Cotric. He came here and is playing "Canterbury" football as opposed to "Canberra" football. Its a burn but its deserved. He is making errors that he just didnt make at Canberra.

We need a kill in the spine and up front. Players that can change our team. I dont think either Burton and JAC can do that given that Burton is young and that JAC is a winger. It really needs to be someone like B.Smith. He is a winner that will drag blokes along with him.

I cant think of too many others to be honest.

 

[B-Train]

It is worth keeping in mind that there are 30 contracted players out of which only 13 are guaranteed to play NRL any given week plus 4 with a reasonable chance that they will play. The other 13 are back ups or backs ups to the back ups. Replacing a $115k player (NRL minimum) with another $115k player doesn't save any Cap space. We can't get rid of 2 x $115k players and replace them with 1 x $230k player, because we still need to have 30 players. A lot of the players people keep wanting to get rid of are back ups to the back ups and on minimum or close to minimum contracts, like Crichton, SKatoa, or Roumanos who isn't even a back up to the back up.

To free up Cap space (which is the only thing that is relevant) we need to look at players in positions that command well above the minimum, spine obviously being top of that list, then specialists like prop and centre. Ogden is a prime example, he's a prop and commanding prop money which currently he doesn't deserve. He isn't doing the job as a bench player or even as a back up. Atoni similarly, right now he isn't justifying the Cap space that he consumes, sure he's playing OK'ish occasionally, but he's on far from the minimum so there is a lot (of Cap space) to be gained by moving him on. Conversely Meaney who is a very decent back up for full back or wing. Then there are players who may well be back ups right now, but they may just well be regular NRL players in the not too distant future, Okunbor is an example of that, they are worth keeping on potential, but be prepared to cut them loose when they aren't.

Our issue as I see it right now is we don't have any real gun players, the ones you just give the ball to and know they can create something out of nothing. The inspirations that lift the players around them. We need at least 2 of them, preferably in spine positions. And flicking a back up to the back up on the minimum is not going to help one bit in securing them (because you have to replace them with another back up to the back up on the minimum).

Go Dogs

Thankfully Burton will be one such player that you can throw the ball to and let him create something for himself or others. But we definitely need more. Which is why Dufty and Clark would be so handy in the spine.

We've been running with 29 all year and you could even flirt with 28 so you don't have to have a 30 man squad which gives you some flexibility for mid season signings.

Our main issue for the last few seasons has been wasted top 30 spots on players who were never a chance of playing FG that could have been better used on other juniors/development players on a minimum NRL contract that were more likely to contribute right away if called upon. Prime example is Topine not being in the top 30 when he's beeb our best junior coming through for the last few years.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Our main issue for the last few seasons has been wasted top 30 spots on players who were never a chance of playing FG that could have been better used on other juniors/development players on a minimum NRL contract that were more likely to contribute right away if called upon. Prime example is Topine not being in the top 30 when he's beeb our best junior coming through for the last few years.

We have players (also via Mounties) that are on NSWRL Contracts, so not being on an NRL Contract is irrelevant to a players development. If they are doing their job the coaching team identifies those players with potential and works with them appropriately. There is also specialist coaching devoted to players in specialist positions.

Our problem hasn't been not having players on NRL Contracts, it has been the coaching team being told to ignore them because the strategy was to buy whoever we needed not develop them. Last season development was also Covid affected, so this year is really the start.

Go Dogs

 

[B-Train]

We have players (also via Mounties) that are on NSWRL Contracts, so not being on an NRL Contract is irrelevant to a players development. If they are doing their job the coaching team identifies those players with potential and works with them appropriately. There is also specialist coaching devoted to players in specialist positions.

Our problem hasn't been not having players on NRL Contracts, it has been the coaching team being told to ignore them because the strategy was to buy whoever we needed not develop them. Last season development was also Covid affected, so this year is really the start.

Go Dogs

It's not about their development, it's about having someone who can contribute to the NRL team being in the top 30 as opposed to some dead weight random player that never plays FG like they've done in years past. Each top 30 spot is precious so you don't need exemptions to be able to call up a player like Topine who should have been in the top 30 all along on the minimum.

 

[Mike Fixa]

It's not about their development, it's about having someone who can contribute to the NRL team being in the top 30 as opposed to some dead weight random player that never plays FG like they've done in years past. Each top 30 spot is precious so you don't need exemptions to be able to call up a player like Topine who should have been in the top 30 all along on the minimum.

100% agree with you on Topine. Speaking of precious positions, how did we manage to give one to Napa??