Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, that’s the extent of the players’ abilities? That no level of coaching can turn a severely cap restrained team, that’s supposed to finish last, into a contender? That 11th/12th is a bloody good coaching effort? Apologies, silly questions, of course you would never consider that.
Why does it fail the logic test? Does Pay not have "Bulldog DNA"? In fact, he and Dymock have the same amount of DNA as they both deserted us to join Parra.
You still haven't responded to my points several times in regards to Pay as you keep hiding from reality and the facts and keep dodging the question. You always ask people for evidence and proof but when it is presented to you, you ignore it as it doesn't suit your agenda.
Hopefully that other club turns up soon
I know that we all miss the footy for obvious reasons but we are at a crossroads this year in regards to either extended certain players or moving them on,
It's more the last two years that worries me but I agree the rest of this season is pivotal for so many reasons... For them to make a call on Pay. For them to see what players are going to be available next season. To see how our own players develop and whether they're part of the long term solution or if we need more reinforcements etc.
And I'll answer you one more time, the coach doesn't score the points, the players do. I don't believe that any coach in the NRL could get us much higher in the table with the players at his disposal. The evidence is plain, none of them wanted the job last time because they were aware of the roster and the salary cap constraints until 2021 that meant they couldn't fix the roster until then. My view is they didn't want to make their win/loss coaching record worse for 3 years while the cap problem was resolved. They simply didn't want to do the hard work, they wanted to waltz in with a top level level team plus Cap space spare and to pump up their reputation.
So you don't think any other coach could get last years squad to average more than 14 points for a season or have a for and against better than 2nd last in the comp? You're saying that's the maximum potential of the squad? Just checking..
I agree with TwinTurbo, but you're right in regards to a top coach would push us a couple of positions up the ladder, but not as much as you probably think they would. We weren't in a position to get anyone better than Pay which is why he's here. Say whatever you want, but technically Pay's overachieved (looking at roster/results that's black and white and not debatable) so unless a top coach is available he'll be here next year too. We're going to be stuck as a bottom four team until we recruit top players (as our roster isn't good enough) which is what we're supposed to be doing for next year? Until Pay fails next year the hate is premature. Regardless, if a top coach is available we should be ruthless and get them, but the only one that fits the build that we have a realistic change of getting is Flanagan for 2022.
Question. How long will you give pay until you decide he isnt the coach for the club?
Why would he ever decide such a thing? He doesn't think another coach could do a better job. According to the Pay loyalists, we have one of the best coaches in the comp and should be eternally thankful.
Who’s Lyn?
Don’t think anyone has ever said that mate...
I stopped reading there
