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Boosty Boosty Booosty... the PM did NOT say that they're not paying rent for the next 6 months... he announced an eviction ban, meaning you can't evict renters. How on Earth do you think retired people who rely on rent to make a living if people were granted rent-free living? The PM may not be popular but he's certainly not stupid either - I actually think we have a great PM. Imagine the shitstorm we'd be in if Turnbull were in charge.

Now if I were you Boosty, I'd consider listing your house with Defense Housing Australia - https://dha.gov.au - you list your house with them, and;
  • Your house gets leased out to soldiers
  • The ADF pays a certain percentage of the rent (at least 50% of it) based on the location, rent, soldiers level and income
  • Soldiers earn good money meaning that the rent will always be paid
  • Soldiers are disciplined and discipline their kids meaning the house will always be kept in good shape
The only catch is that if they are called out to duty, their family can opt to leave mid-contract. This is no problem though as you keep the house listed with them for another soldier to rent.

It sounds like something that was made specifically for you.
I understand that your no renter, you don't get their mindset.. be glad you don't get their mindset.

The rule is they can't be evicted in the 6 months period. So if they don't pay rent they cannot get evicted.. why do renters pay rent in the first place? So they don't get evicted... But now they can't get evicted, so why pay rent? it ain't rocket science

Today they will all be calling the real estate talking about how they can't afford it, real estate can only say ok. What do they threaten them with now?

In the meantime renters are stockpiling cigarettes instead of paying rent
 

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In all of Australia ONLY 2,200? Fucking hell. Do you know how many beds are in Sydney?

It's just going to be like Italy, isn't it? Doctors having to choose who lives and who dies :(
On what basis are you saying that? At the end of last week there were approx 10 people listed in a critical condition with Coronavirus in NSW.

Infection numbers have largely steadied and out death numbers would indicate the number of critical cases throughout the country are relatively low.
 

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I understand that your no renter, you don't get their mindset.. be glad you don't get their mindset.

The rule is they can't be evicted in the 6 months period. So if they don't pay rent they cannot get evicted.. why do renters pay rent in the first place? So they don't get evicted... But now they can't get evicted, so why pay rent? it ain't rocket science

Today they will all be calling the real estate talking about how they can't afford it, real estate can only say ok. What do they threaten them with now?

In the meantime renters are stockpiling cigarettes instead of paying rent
It is up to the states and territories to implement. Each state hasn't said whether or not they will do it or not.

If they do, I'm assuming that renters will be required to show evidence they've been sacked, that they don't have cash to pay and that they've registered with centrelink. If I was a landlord, that would be the minimum I would want.
 

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I understand that your no renter, you don't get their mindset.. be glad you don't get their mindset.

The rule is they can't be evicted in the 6 months period. So if they don't pay rent they cannot get evicted.. why do renters pay rent in the first place? So they don't get evicted... But now they can't get evicted, so why pay rent? it ain't rocket science

Today they will all be calling the real estate talking about how they can't afford it, real estate can only say ok. What do they threaten them with now?

In the meantime renters are stockpiling cigarettes instead of paying rent
That's true, they don't have to pay rent, however if they don't, they'll get evicted, and if they choose to stay, they'll have to pay $15000 in one go which is not something easy by any means. If they want to have good credit history and not land themselves in strife, including getting a recommendation from the real estate agency for another rental property, they'll do the right thing and pay.

Also, within 6 months of taking up the lease, you should know if the tenants are decent or not.
 

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On what basis are you saying that? At the end of last week there were approx 10 people listed in a critical condition with Coronavirus in NSW.

Infection numbers have largely steadied and out death numbers would indicate the number of critical cases throughout the country are relatively low.
That's one thing that's good about our nation... the largest part of the population and the big 3 cities, Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, are densely spread and as such, the disease hasn't blown out of hand like it has in Europe and in the States. If we were a smaller country, it would've blown out of control completely.
 

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On what basis are you saying that? At the end of last week there were approx 10 people listed in a critical condition with Coronavirus in NSW.

Infection numbers have largely steadied and out death numbers would indicate the number of critical cases throughout the country are relatively low.
I hope one day you become prime minister.
You're reasonable and sensible and wise beyond your years!
 

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I hope one day you become prime minister.
You're reasonable and sensible and wise beyond your years!
The only reason what I'm saying seems 'wise' is because the media are running around like chickens with their heads cut off, saying the sky is going to fall in.

Then you get sections of the public following suit and doing the same thing (see the panic buying, toilet paper hoarding, fights in supermarkets etc).

For whatever reason, most humans don't like dealing with cold numbers. They prefer to read the headline and the first sentence and then they lose interest.
 

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The only reason what I'm saying seems 'wise' is because the media are running around like chickens with their heads cut off, saying the sky is going to fall in.

Then you get sections of the public following suit and doing the same thing (see the panic buying, toilet paper hoarding, fights in supermarkets etc).

For whatever reason, most humans don't like dealing with cold numbers. They prefer to read the headline and the first sentence and then they lose interest.
You're so right.
If there really is an elitist depopulation plan?
I hope you make the cut to stay alive.
 

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The whole news is corona virus, hardly worth watching, I get it.
 

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You're so right.
If there really is an elitist depopulation plan?
I hope you make the cut to stay alive.
I'd be lying if I said I hadn't considered the thought that China had intentionally set this virus loose on the world.

Mostly I'm an optimistic person and try to believe the best so my conclusion so far is that this thing accidentally got set loose in China, the Chinese government lied through their teeth and pretended it wasn't happening, and now it's gone everywhere throughout the world.

It's a good lesson for why communism / socialism / authoritarianism is not an effective means of government.
 

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Throughout the world some places of worship remain open with no social distancing, people kissing religious relics and receiving communion from a single item.

Why, because their god will protect them and you can't catch the virus in a holy place etc.

This type of thinking is what shits me about religion, brainwashed and disregard for scientific facts.
 

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I'd be lying if I said I hadn't considered the thought that China had intentionally set this virus loose on the world.

Mostly I'm an optimistic person and try to believe the best so my conclusion so far is that this thing accidentally got set loose in China, the Chinese government lied through their teeth and pretended it wasn't happening, and now it's gone everywhere throughout the world.

It's a good lesson for why communism / socialism / authoritarianism is not an effective means of government.
You're definitely someone I need to meet up with and have a conversation.

Its always refreshing to know theres guys who still question things and think freely!
 

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The only reason what I'm saying seems 'wise' is because the media are running around like chickens with their heads cut off, saying the sky is going to fall in.

Then you get sections of the public following suit and doing the same thing (see the panic buying, toilet paper hoarding, fights in supermarkets etc).

For whatever reason, most humans don't like dealing with cold numbers. They prefer to read the headline and the first sentence and then they lose interest.
The public panic had it's downsides and upsides. The major downside being the panic buying and people generally being dicks to each other. On the upside it meant that Australians generally took it seriously and self-isolated/social distanced when asked to (with the exception of a few small groups)

And this worked to the most part. As you pointed out above, cases have steadied. Actually less than steadied. The last 2 days we have consecutively less new cases per day so it looks like we could be on a down swing. Hard to say for sure as it's only 2 days of data and we're still getting more cases per day than we were 1 week ago, but it's a sign of potential progress and if the downswing continues then we may be better off than most other countries.
 

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Good read
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BAgPEAQ&usg=AOvVaw1E-vxETaZ3Mi9Utfv_F4wn&cf=1
Also add to that the virus may of been in Italy since Nov, makes sense why Spain and Italy are getting smashed
It makes a lot of sense hey. It’s lucky we got visibility of this after Europe. I feel we’re definitely on top of it. But I wonder if it’s more by luck as opposed to good management. Sure we’re acting appropriately now but gees things could have been a lot worse.
 

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Of all the dead how many were of a healthy working age and not closing in on the final chapter of their life?
 

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The average for critical case (requiring ICU) percentage across the world is around 5%. In Australia it's currently at 1% so we're pretty well off in that regard. We have 3,920 active cases and only 28 in ICU. We currently have 2,200 ICU beds so we're alright there right now especially if we hang around the current figures. If it jumps up to 20,000 active cases then we'll be in trouble, keeping in mind that while we have 2,200 ICU beds, they aren't all empty.

But at this stage it's showing promise as long as we don't say, "Hey, look, cases are dropping, let's remove all restrictions"
 
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