News Bulldogs could be denied salary cap relief for Kieran Foran injury!

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There is no proof mate, it’s just a news story written by Paul Crawley. Was worthy of a thread due to our current predicament with Foran and the status quo of the game in general where some teams are given certain privileges and others aren’t. Like I stated “ both cases are pending” but wouldn’t be surprised if we were duded in the process!
Fair enough. Thanks for the answer.
 

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Canberra missed out when Jordan Rapana returned to the field just short of the 12-match cut-off.
Hahaha, Rapana was back in round 2 or 3, that's some artistic license right there
 

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In a predicament that exposes an unfairness in the NRL’s system for salary cap relief, the Bulldogs could be penalised despite losing Kieran Foran to a shoulder injury while playing for New Zealand.
Kieran Foran is so hellbent on recovering from his recent shoulder surgery that he could cost Canterbury any salary cap relief.

In a predicament that exposes a glaring unfairness in the NRL’s system, the Bulldogs could be penalised for Foran’s determination to recover from the shocking injury he suffered while playing for New Zealand.

While it was initially feared he could miss all of next season, Foran is telling people close to him that he has set himself a target to be back playing by June at the latest, but possibly at some stage in May.

Unfortunately for the Bulldogs, clubs are only entitled to a maximum of $350,000 in cap relief for a player injured while on representative duty if the player has been sidelined for at least 12 NRL games.

Foran’s timeline would potentially have him back on the field just before that period elapses, meaning the Bulldogs would be out of pocket unless there was an immediate change to the guidelines.

The Bulldogs are expected to appeal to the NRL that regardless of when Foran returns they should still be entitled to the maximum salary cap relief.

The club is expected to get the surgeon’s final report this week and present it to the NRL.

The determination will set a precedent given no other club has yet qualified for the representative injury relief.

Canberra missed out when Jordan Rapana returned to the field just short of the 12-match cut-off.

The Bulldogs would argue that all indications from medical experts were that Foran was facing a minimum of six months on the sideline but possibly as many as 10
It seems ludicrous that the limit is capped at $350,000 for all players, especially when Foran is the Bulldogs’ highest- paid player on $1.2 million.

He was also fit and healthy when he left for Kiwi camp but returned home requiring two shoulder operations.

There is no disputing when the injury occurred given it happened in front of everyone watching the Test.

It would also seem unfair to make a club wait until June to find out if it qualifies for salary cap relief. By then, it would probably be too late to spend the money in next year’s cap.

Foran has every reason to be pushing himself to get back early given he is off contract at the end of next season and will be fighting for his future.

He is 29 but has indicated he has no plan to retire any time soon. The football he played this year was proof that, when fit, he is still up with the NRL’s elite playmakers

That's the article
"Glaring unfairness of the NRL system"
"Unfortunately for the Bulldogs"
"Seems unfair to make a club"

Are we SURE this was written by a Terrorgraph reporter... about the BULLDOGS??? They must be trying to butter us up to get us off-guard... :laughing:
 

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"Glaring unfairness of the NRL system"
"Unfortunately for the Bulldogs"
"Seems unfair to make a club"

Are we SURE this was written by a Terrorgraph reporter... about the BULLDOGS??? They must be trying to butter us up to get us off-guard... :laughing:
Very suspicious indeed!
Crawley might be looking for a new job soon disobeying his masters like that.
Imagine Limited News saying something remotely positive about the Dogs!
 

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"Glaring unfairness of the NRL system"
"Unfortunately for the Bulldogs"
"Seems unfair to make a club"

Are we SURE this was written by a Terrorgraph reporter... about the BULLDOGS??? They must be trying to butter us up to get us off-guard... :laughing:
Especially considering his love affair with Des
 

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The club needs to tell Foran that regardless of his recovery time the earliest he is allowed back is round 13. This way we get the 350k. Foran should accept that proposal.
 

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The club needs to tell Foran that regardless of his recovery time the earliest he is allowed back is round 13. This way we get the 350k. Foran should accept that proposal.
I’ve thought that too. We don’t have to select him for any grade and would be stupid to
 

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I feel for Foran, it shouldn't be considered his fault we lose compensation. If he wants to try and play on that is his right. If a player is injured during an international there should be compensation full stop. Clubs have to make players available for these fixtures so there should be insurance.
 

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I feel for Foran, it shouldn't be considered his fault we lose compensation. If he wants to try and play on that is his right. If a player is injured during an international there should be compensation full stop. Clubs have to make players available for these fixtures so there should be insurance.
Exactly right. It’s bullshit. If your injured in a rep game that help promoters the sport and makes the game and the players (not the club) more $ the club should not be held for a loss...
 

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I’ve thought that too. We don’t have to select him for any grade and would be stupid to
Can you really do that if the doc says they're ok....well probably whst I mean is can the "Bulldogs" do that? :grinning:)
 

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The money is obviously one issue, but one thing not to overlook with the Foran situation is disruption to our young fellas.
He's going to be out for a major chunk of the season regardless - wouldn't it be better to try to build combos with Cogger/Lewis/Wakeham and have them not worry that their spot might be in jeopardy next week based on the injury return of a highly paid player and nothing that they'd necessarily done to warrant being dropped?
 

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Said a number of times, if he's not going to be re-signed I cant see why we would bring him back at all. Does us no favours whatsoever.

If we are in a position (unlikely) to make a play in the finals it will be due to no assistance from Foran.

I like the bloke, but club first.
 

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Can you really do that if the doc says they're ok....well probably whst I mean is can the "Bulldogs" do that? :grinning:)
A lot of these doctors will say whatever they are being paid to say but you’re right, because we aren’t Souths or the roosters the NRL might make it hard for us!
 

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Everyone should just prepare themselves for the $350k and that’s it. There’s no point comparing anything to the Burgess case at Souths because it’s totally different. If Foran retired we would have a case but he’s playing on.
 

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Everything is negotiable, if the NRL doesn't negotiate they are pricks.
They should do a deal that Foran is out of the entire 20 season but can come back in 21.
 

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If people have anger over this debacle, they want to be directing it at Kieran Foran. The bloke is delusional and thinks he's still a 22 year old playing at the Sea Eagles with a fresh body.

The bloke's body is toast and if he wants to do the right thing by the club and it's supporters then he should be walking away and not trying to drag this out any longer.

His shoulders are fkd, his hammy's and back are fkd and by all reports so are his hips. You can't be an NRL team's play maker with that sort of body.
 

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Hang on.
You say "that's the rule, same for any club"
Then you say to "prevent a loophole" we agree not to resign Foron for 2021 and we get the full $1.2m.
Isn't that the very definition of a loophole?
I don't think we should be allowed to re-sign him personally (if receiving the full amount) . I can see teams abusing this. We could pay him out for 2020 and re-sign him on a low contract. He isn't medically retiring and we made the decision to sign him back in 2018. I think it's a good altermaiden.
 

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If people have anger over this debacle, they want to be directing it at Kieran Foran. The bloke is delusional and thinks he's still a 22 year old playing at the Sea Eagles with a fresh body.

The bloke's body is toast and if he wants to do the right thing by the club and it's supporters then he should be walking away and not trying to drag this out any longer.

His shoulders are fkd, his hammy's and back are fkd and by all reports so are his hips. You can't be an NRL team's play maker with that sort of body.
The real anger should be directed at Dib he’s the idiot that signed a injury prone player to a massive contract when there wasn’t any competition for his signature.
 

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More interesting is the Souffs situation.
They got the NRL to agree to "medically retire" Inglis for being a habitual drunkard and now looking to medically retire Sam Burgess also.
Inglis didn’t get medically retired. Souths offered him a job after football paying him around $300k and the rest of his million dollar contract was inexplicably taken off Souths cap with the NRL blessing the whole thing.
 
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