Bulldogs Call NRL Double Standards on Cap Relief

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Legally we don’t have a leg to stand on
350k max for injury in rep games mate,
He was injured in a rep game, there’s no negotiating
So won’t get a penny more
If all clubs want this changed to accurately reflect the value (i.e., clubs risk) of their rep players: they should only make available players on <$350k/year and watch the NRL change the rule.
 

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what most people seem to be missing here is the main point, its not about cap relief, its about buying a big risk, a big risk that we lost on

bulldogs signed foran knowing he was broken, with serious injuries, bulldogs really have no recall as they bought a player knowing full well he was busted
So the finger would have to be pointed at the medical staff when surely Foran went through an intense physical and health assessment. Or did Hasler override the hole process and sign him anyway?
 

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Wonder if the Rugby League Players Associations are around these days? Surely, in the case it’s in their interests to support the argument for serious cap relief. It’s in their constituents interests to have another roster spot open
 

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Second case that comes to mind is the media, do they not want clubs in AU to keep the best players in the NRL, serious cap relief enables the possibility of one of the many heading to northern hemisphere to stay another season
 

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Wonder if the Rugby League Players Associations are around these days? Surely, in the case it’s in their interests to support the argument for serious cap relief. It’s in their constituents interests to have another roster spot open
Got noth8ng to do with players association
It’s the clubs that get stuffed around, the players still get paid every dollar, so hence they don’t care
 

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Got noth8ng to do with players association
It’s the clubs that get stuffed around, the players still get paid every dollar, so hence they don’t care
I understand that, my point was more this issue being in their interest, by virtue of potentially getting another player(s) into an NRL fulltime squad in Foran absence, obviously easier to do with appropriate cap relief.
 

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It seems like this is all a financial situation from the NRL admins point of view. The fact that medical retirement is only an option for players with no pre existing injury tells me that they are concerned that if insurance doesn't cover the cost of wages, they won't grant it as they don't want to risk being asked to cough up the money. I feel like that's also why they limited the injury allowance to $350,0000 in rep games.

At a time when numerous rep players have said that burnout is becoming an issue we regularly see the NRL setting up new competitions during the pre and off season. Players might have concerns about burning out. But they generally forget those concerns when a dollar sign floats into view. In a way it's like dropping a tonne of food in a pigs pen and expecting it to wisely regulate it's diet.

I think that every club needs to start pressuring the NRL about both medical retirement and the compensation level for players injured in representative games. I understand that the NRL needs a profit margin. But that's all reliant on the clubs producing a marketable spectacle.

In recent years the admin has focused heavily on income in numerous ways.
- Staff allowances are now capped.
- Salary cap spending- If clubs don't spend their cap allowances they'll demand that money back.
- Player TPA's. If what Hayne said when he left for the NFL still stands, the NRL still receives a portion of what players personal sponsorship deals bring in.


But when it comes to budgeting for their own wages, the administration of the NRL reportedly can choose to pay themselves bonuses based on their own selection criteria.

The last tv rights sponsorship was supposedly going to allow for more resources to be invested in grass roots football. At present its not funneling that far down the line. AFL and soccer are going to take advantage of the fact that our game isn't looking after it's foundations. I don't see a strong future for league if the current baboons running it are left in charge.
 

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Definitely. If a player is ruled out for the entire season before it's even kicked off there MUST be cap relief of some sort.
If the injury occurred during an offseason international game
It should be 100% of the full contract for the season
 

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If the injury occurred during an offseason international game
It should be 100% of the full contract for the season
Maybe only if the player is in the last year of his contract and it's 100% confirmed he won't return for the season (independent doctor). Otherwise I can see clubs doing stupid things. There is a reason why it's only 350k.
 

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Why cant he retire effectively now then make a miraculous recovery and get Dr clearance to play again in 2021...then do the whole pre season of training and last 6 minutes in his first game...hopefully for Manly in 2021?
 

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Why cant he retire effectively now then make a miraculous recovery and get Dr clearance to play again in 2021...then do the whole pre season of training and last 6 minutes in his first game...hopefully for Manly in 2021?
Once you're medically retired you can't play NRL again. Otherwise obvious loophole.
 

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Not that we have many players knocking on Rep's door but the club should come out and say that we are no longer allowing our players to play Rep football until the rule is changed! Take a stance.
We should have taken a stance back in 2002 when they deducted 39 points from us.
Under the fair trade rules we could have taken the NRL to court then, it would have meant no comp until a court decision is made
Our management decided against it for the game's sake.
Ever since we have become the easy pushovers.
It didn't happen then it won't happen now !!!
 
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It shows you how far behind the NRL is compared to other sports. All they have to do is take use the injured reserve list like the NFL do. It allows you to remove players from your roster and cap that have long term injuries. There is no stupid rules or grey areas.
Definitely something is wrong with you spoon :tearsofjoy:
No stupid rules No grey areas ?
It doesn't suit the National Rorts League :rage:
 

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what were all the so called "special" conditions that were supposed to have been in Foran's contract to protect us when we signed him?
In Hitler we trust
Thanks board thanks management
 

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I think his finished and his chances of getting a new contract are slim with anyone. He said in the telecrap he loves the game and would play for free. He can start with the bulldogs and retire
Bull Bull Bull...
His boyfriend Hitler will take him back
Even if he was on wheelchair
 

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They wont have to if handled correctly, especially in the media as we do have some sympathy.
Sympathy from the media ?
Please go and see a doctor :worried:
I think you are hallucinating :fearscream::tearsofjoy:
 

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Channel 9 just announced the Bulldogs to take on NRL on Salary cap relief for Foran.
They quoted the Double standards in allowing Burgess and other players being allowed and not Foran. Lets hope this gathers some pace and shows how unfair the NRL is and hopefully the dogs win this for our cap. No mention on Foran retiring.
The ridiculous thing is Foran refuses to retire but will have no choice- NO ONE WILL SIGN HIM beyond his current contract to so effectively it will be a forced retirement. Very delusional and selfish on Foran’s part.
 
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