The difference with today's Bulldogs is they don't have strong leadership at the coaching level or playing ranks. No offence to Jacko,Tolman and Pay but they aren't in the same league as Baa and C Anderson or Price and Folkes.Imo we have had some rough times in the past 30+ years but this is the worst in terms of results and the length time for recovery.
What i dont know about this is whether the damage this time is bigger than in the past, like player exodus of late 80s, salary cap scandal which led us to gradually releasing players etc, or the people in charge of fixing this arent as good as past management.
I think it's both, massive damage and a group that appears to be in over it's head trying to fix it. TBH I'm not sure anyone else could have done better off the field because I don't have any inside info on what's happening behind the scenes, but I do know we could have done a lot better on the field with energy and enthusiasm - those two things should be easy for a coach to get out of a young group of players, but I've only seen us outdo our opponents on those 2 fronts a handful of times over the past couple of seasons.Imo we have had some rough times in the past 30+ years but this is the worst in terms of results and the length time for recovery.
What i dont know about this is whether the damage this time is bigger than in the past, like player exodus of late 80s, salary cap scandal which led us to gradually releasing players etc, or the people in charge of fixing this arent as good as past management.
I don’t see us contending for a spoon in any of those years. Go Pay your on fireAlthough it wasn't our best period, it wasn't as bad as it seemed:
1988: We came 2nd in 1988 and won the Premiership.
1989: We won 10 and lost 10. In today's comp we'd have made the top 8.
1990: We won 12 games and lost 9. In today's comp we'd have made the top 8.
1991: Finished 5th and made finals.
1992: We won 10 and lost 10. In today's comp we'd have made the top 8.
But at least we won a title in 88 and 95We missed the finals four years straight from 89-92.
Being a supporter for the entire 80's I would have to say this is the worse Bulldogs team I have ever seen, and even though Pay is a reserve grade coach at best the players are the ones on the field, not all the players but the majority should be ashamed of themselves.Imo we have had some rough times in the past 30+ years but this is the worst in terms of results and the length time for recovery.
What i dont know about this is whether the damage this time is bigger than in the past, like player exodus of late 80s, salary cap scandal which led us to gradually releasing players etc, or the people in charge of fixing this arent as good as past management.
The des era should have ended in 2015, mediocrity become a pass under des n dib. This is a 5 to 10year fix now.First time in my lifetime. Been supporting the dogs since the early 90s and have never experienced such a shit era.
Yes we haven't factored that into the equation as much as we should have. Hasler should have gone end of 2015. It didn't help keeping him. Nothing changed. We showed loyalty to a failing coach and in doing so, further downgraded the Club.The des era should have ended in 2015, mediocrity become a pass under des n dib. This is a 5 to 10year fix now.
If he was sacked in 2015 all hell would have broken loose, sacking him after one bad year. Hindsight is greatYes we haven't factored that into the equation as much as we should have. Hasler should have gone end of 2015. It didn't help keeping him. Nothing changed. We showed loyalty to a failing coach and in doing so, further downgraded the Club.
Same mistake being commited on the club now.
Just think if during the des era we kept the developing talent like the crop from 2010 /2011 , we would still be a powerhouse and prob won a gf along the way .Yes we haven't factored that into the equation as much as we should have. Hasler should have gone end of 2015. It didn't help keeping him. Nothing changed. We showed loyalty to a failing coach and in doing so, further downgraded the Club.
Same mistake being commited on the club now.
A lot were complaining about Hasler then and the style of football. It is widely acknowledged, even by Dib, that the dream run we had getting to the 2014 fg, masked serious flaws in Haslers theories and gameplan. The club blindly supported his every whim and paid the penalty.If he was sacked in 2015 all hell would have broken loose, sacking him after one bad year. Hindsight is great
"It is widely acknowledged, even by Dib, that the dream run we had getting to the 2014 fg, masked serious flaws in Haslers theories and gameplan" where was this widely acknowledged? where is your source?A lot were complaining about Hasler then and the style of football. It is widely acknowledged, even by Dib, that the dream run we had getting to the 2014 fg, masked serious flaws in Haslers theories and gameplan. The club blindly supported his every whim and paid the penalty.
Wow that's crazy. We bounced back fast from that. I can't see that happening now.We missed the finals four years straight from 89-92.
You obviously don't follow your Club all that closely!"It is widely acknowledged, even by Dib, that the dream run we had getting to the 2014 fg, masked serious flaws in Haslers theories and gameplan" where was this widely acknowledged? where is your source?
Seriously, when was the last time we won 3 in a row?When was the last time we won 3 games in a row