Dean Pay or Mary McGregor

Who is shown the door first

  • Dean Pay

    Votes: 49 64.5%
  • Mary McGregor

    Votes: 27 35.5%

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The_Chimpster

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Who are you again? Passing judgment as if you know what your talking about....you attend our training sessions do you? Converse with all our coaching staff, conditioners, physios? Your there when Pay puts a caring arm around a player whos out of form or recently split from his gf?, or there when game plans are devised and tip sheets passed onto players.? Lets not mistake 'coaching' with 'execution' or 'ability of players to carry out instructions'.
Let me put it bluntly. If Pay couldnt coach he wouldnt still be there. We are not a Club run by a bunch of amateurs. They've all been around long enough to spot a fraud and Pay is not a fraud.
No, I have no inside scoop and don't attend training sessions, I'm just frustrated, die hard fan who watches every game just like a lot of other people on here, and who's come to the glaring obvious conclusion that pay is clueless as a coach. He might be a great guy, and sure, he might "care" about his players but that doesn't change the fact that he can't coach. He doesn't appear to devise a game plan, has no idea how to rotate a side, and plays players out of position. Overall he seems to be doing a lot of harm to everyone's confidence. Yeah, he was re-signed on a one year deal to stop rumour and inuenndo, and whispers keep getting stronger that he'll be gone by the end of the year, what does that tell you?

You sound like you have some inside info the rest of us don't know, or you're just too high on your petestal, or too blind to see what's right in front of you
 

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No, I have no inside scoop and don't attend training sessions, I'm just frustrated, die hard fan who watches every game just like a lot of other people on here, and who's come to the glaring obvious conclusion that pay is clueless as a coach. He might be a great guy, and sure, he might "care" about his players but that doesn't change the fact that he can't coach. He doesn't appear to devise a game plan, has no idea how to rotate a side, and plays players out of position. Overall he seems to be doing a lot of harm to everyone's confidence. Yeah, he was re-signed on a one year deal to stop rumour and inuenndo, and whispers keep getting stronger that he'll be gone by the end of the year, what does that tell you?

You sound like you have some inside info the rest of us don't know, or you're just too high on your petestal, or too blind to see what's right in front of you

Gets his info from brett finch
 

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Even though they are under performing massively with their roster, at least Mary can coach.


Pay is more useless than tits on a bull
Why is McGreggor exempt from scrutiny ?
He has a way better roster performing as badly as the bulldogs, but at least he can coach ?
 

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Why is McGreggor exempt from scrutiny ?
He has a way better roster performing as badly as the bulldogs, but at least he can coach ?
He isn't exempt from scrutiny, far from it. Even though the dragons suck arese this year, at least he can identify talent and adopt a gameplan, his record really isn't that bad as a coach.

But that's just what I think, everyone seems to believe that he's rubbish so I'm not saying anymore on the subject as it's pointless arguing
 

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Why is McGreggor exempt from scrutiny ?
He has a way better roster performing as badly as the bulldogs, but at least he can coach ?
From what I’m told the dragons fans are lynching him their forums scrutiny of Pay makes us look like we all want pay for another 10 years
 

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Mary should have been fired years ago. He's completely clueless and has wasted a solid Saints squad with more talent than most teams.

But Pay will likely be fired first. Hopefully anyway... Neither will be a head coach in the NRL again.
Agree, if say someone like Madge had that dragons squad last season he would have got more out of them. Mary and Pay are very similar in the fact that they never pick the best 17
 

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Nasheed here,
I’m not sure who WILL be shown the door first, both clubs are showing unusual loyalty up in this bitch to the coaches but I definitely do know who should be out the door first.

Mary mcgregor.

Like my friend from Taree told me, when a team fails to gel defensively, that’s isn’t the players, that’s the coach.
Two teams have been failures in this regard this year. Titans and saints.
Dogs have had their moments but not quite as bad.

The titans coach was shown the door last week.

The bulldogs are operating with a young squad at a reduced salary cap. They were never going to fire this year. We have no names fronting up whilst we pay off Mbye and Woods and are forced to field Lichaa types.

The saints on the other hand have a star studded pack and were raped (and in the process fucked my understanding multi) by the Penrith Panthers.

Saints rested Hunt which affects the attack, but look who they have
Vince Vaughan, Cameron Mcinness, Tariq Sims, James Graham, Tyson Frizell, Korbin Simms and a pretty decent new guy named Kerr. Yet they don’t know what the other guys are doing and as a result the panthers ran soft tries up the middle, tries reminiscent of the dogs worst efforts this year.
Triple M commentators were talking about getting the team to socialise on the weekend so they can trust each other.
That’s basic stupid shit.
What’s more, in a must win game against a winnable team, they rested their best player in Hunt.
Now they can’t make the finals.

He may have his reasons but on the surface it doesn’t appear to be a winning mentality. Saints fans hate him.

A good coach gets the dragons in the top 5. A good coach gets the dogs 12th. Yet they’re 14 and 15 respectively. Nasheed.
 

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McGregor would have to be 1,000,000 To 1 to coach us
 

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No doubt Mary should be gone first. Been around longer with no results. A great squad overall. A good coach would instantly get them into the top 8. They would want results now.

For us a good coach will still take time, probably a 2-3 year prospect of even getting into the 8.

I suspect Pay will go first though. Cant trust our board.
 

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Too big risk in my books.. how many rookie coaches to go through by the time you find the next Bennet or Bellamy..

Weve been a f-up since at least 2016, next coaching appointment shouldnt be a rookie..

And no - Robinson fits my category as a coach he was head coach in ESL and did well there before he got the Roosters gig..

Dumb statement - Heres a few first time coaches straight into first grade that are not named Bellamy or Bennett ... Shane Flanngan, Paul Green, Steve Folkes, Des Hasler, Ricky Stuart all premiership winners other notables Ivan Clearly and Brad Arthur just to name a few
 

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problem with wating experienced coaches is any coach out there and not employed, means he has been sacked, meaning he screwed up in his last role.

There are some minor exceptions to this but they dont last unemployed long, like Madge Maguire. Where he was sacked, not through failure, but because they ran out of ideas.

Thats why recruiting from the ESL is the best way to go.Aussie coaches go there with less pressure and its a look in to see if they have it or not, because they also get punted if they fail.

Going to ESL is getting the best of both worlds because you are recruiting an experienced and winning coach at top level league, but they are eager to come to the NRL at the same time.

Trent Robinson was an instant success when he came from ESL.
Maguire was also an instant success when coming from ESL.
For the same reason Holbrook is going to be a success too.
 

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problem with wating experienced coaches is any coach out there and not employed, means he has been sacked, meaning he screwed up in his last role.

There are some minor exceptions to this but they dont last unemployed long, like Madge Maguire. Where he was sacked, not through failure, but because they ran out of ideas.

Thats why recruiting from the ESL is the best way to go.Aussie coaches go there with less pressure and its a look in to see if they have it or not, because they also get punted if they fail.

Going to ESL is getting the best of both worlds because you are recruiting an experienced and winning coach at top level league, but they are eager to come to the NRL at the same time.

Trent Robinson was an instant success when he came from ESL.
Maguire was also an instant success when coming from ESL.
For the same reason Holbrook is going to be a success too.
I'm sorry but I don't who has made this post above
 

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problem with wating experienced coaches is any coach out there and not employed, means he has been sacked, meaning he screwed up in his last role.

There are some minor exceptions to this but they dont last unemployed long, like Madge Maguire. Where he was sacked, not through failure, but because they ran out of ideas.

Thats why recruiting from the ESL is the best way to go.Aussie coaches go there with less pressure and its a look in to see if they have it or not, because they also get punted if they fail.

Going to ESL is getting the best of both worlds because you are recruiting an experienced and winning coach at top level league, but they are eager to come to the NRL at the same time.

Trent Robinson was an instant success when he came from ESL.
Maguire was also an instant success when coming from ESL.
For the same reason Holbrook is going to be a success too.

Trent Robinson went straight to a star studded Roosters side that just got SBW , Jennings and it was always going to be SBW welcome back party.. Maguire was a better effort where the Rabbitohs were not as strong as the roosters but still had a host of top class players including a 2 season in Sam Burgess .. so makes life in the coaching box easier. Where if Holbrook comes to us ... we have not got those stars to make his transition smooth a better look would be Nathan Brown who got good success in ESL and came to Australia with the knights only to get the next 3 wooden spoons ... the Coach's success is linked to his players. Wayne Bennett even failed at the knights and my fav Tim Sheens failed at the Cowboys without the cattle full stop.
 

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We have a good team though, we just lack stars around them to life them to the next level.
Too many Indians with no chiefs.

Get a sick prop, a number 13, a half and a centre and we will look a million dollars. Nasheed.
 

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problem with wating experienced coaches is any coach out there and not employed, means he has been sacked, meaning he screwed up in his last role.

There are some minor exceptions to this but they dont last unemployed long, like Madge Maguire. Where he was sacked, not through failure, but because they ran out of ideas.

Thats why recruiting from the ESL is the best way to go.Aussie coaches go there with less pressure and its a look in to see if they have it or not, because they also get punted if they fail.

Going to ESL is getting the best of both worlds because you are recruiting an experienced and winning coach at top level league, but they are eager to come to the NRL at the same time.

Trent Robinson was an instant success when he came from ESL.
Maguire was also an instant success when coming from ESL.
For the same reason Holbrook is going to be a success too.
Look at the rosters Madge and Robinson had and look at the roster Holbrook will have if he arrives next season.

Dont get your hopes up
 

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Look at the rosters Madge and Robinson had and look at the roster Holbrook will have if he arrives next season.

Dont get your hopes up
He will come with a blank cheque and a promise of either Latrell or Pongia. This is mouth Watering for a coach that has a vision. Nasheed.
 

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He will come with a blank cheque and a promise of either Latrell or Pongia. This is mouth Watering for a coach that has a vision. Nasheed.
How do you promise you will sign one or the other ... false promises sounds like our coach and board .. the same people you want to out
 

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How about a cage match UFC style
Paul “Mary” McGregor v Dean “bring the madness” Pay
Loser gets to keep their job, a payout for an NRL coach is like the best redundancy payment ever, just as Des he’s still counting the money we paid him for nothing.
 
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