THE REBUILD - The In's & The Out's

[Scorpio]

word is several players already been in secret meetings with the club officials, and none are interested in becoming bulldogs, sticking point is who will be the coach for 2020 and beyond

I was speaking to an ex- NRL player about NRL coaches and he specifically told me players from all clubs talk to each other all the time when they have offers to sign up to a new club.
One of the major talking points between players is who the head coach is? is he any good? can players communicate with them? is he smart? etc etc...

 

[Scoooby]

PUT SIMPLY - WE NEED TO REBUILD................... (yeah, no shit right).

I would replace all 6 off contract players for 2020. There is also a rumor that we got a spare 600k (triple M).

I looked at all off contract players for the next 2 years according to "Zero Tackle" and tried to create a plan for our squad to improve without knowing their exact salaries.

We can’t buy every superstar under the cap & I have only nominated off contract players or those free to negotiate. I would have liked someone such as Kyle Flanagan but he can’t move until 2022.

I think we are too small & ineffective in our middle forwards, not creative from dummy half, weak in the centres & lack that strike back you need to be the difference in the halves or at fullback. (basically we r f'd)

My nominated new players are based on Age, Size, Potential (IMO) & within the budget. I avoided players over the age of 27 to build a long-term squad & have given all available options that I thought are worth consideration in my opinion. You will all have & be entitled to yours.

OUR OFF-CONTRACT PLAYERS & THEIR REPLACEMENTS For 2020 (NB: Age is 2020 season start)

1. Michael Liccha - Replaced By - Jayden Brailey 23yrs Hooker 5ft.10 88kg “2020 KEY Signing” (free to negotiate). Other options - Jake Turpin 22yrs - Reece Robson 20yrs, Jacob Liddle 22 yrs

2. Rhyse Martin – (gone) Replaced By - Joe Stimpson 6ft2, 104kg.

3. John Olive - Replaced By - Jed Cartwright 22yrs 6ft4, 104kg. Other options - Jesse Arthars 21yrs 6ft2, 88kg. OR promote a junior.

4. Fa'amanu Brown - Replaced By - Connor Tracey 22yrs 6ft, 87kg. Other options - Cade Cust 21 yrs 5ft11, 87kg. Jai Field - 22yrs, 5ft11, 85kg. OR promote a junior.

5. Danny Fualalo - Replaced By - Christian Welch 25yrs Prop 6ft5, 110kg "2020 KEY Signing" (1yr option at Storm) he is even taking the salary of 2 current players (IMO) & promote a junior.

6. Francis Tualau (gone) - Replaced By - promote a junior.

If Welch decides to take up his 1-year Storm option for 2020 then I would chase him for 2021.

MY 2020 TEAM

1. Nick Meany

2. Remis Smith

3. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak

4. Will Hopoate

5. Jayden Okunbor

6. Kieran Foran

7. Jack Cogger

8. Aiden Tolman

9. Jayden Brailey

10. Christian Welch OR If we can’t get him then – Ogden

11. Corey Harawira-Naera

12. Joe Stimpson

13. Josh Jackson


14. Lachlan Lewis OR JMK

15. Ofahiki Ogden

16. Dylan Napa

17. Renouf Tooamaga

Reserves

Jed Cartwright

Connor Tracey

PLUS other current contracted players


18 OFF CONTRACT PLAYERS FOR 2021 (NB: Age is at the start of season 2021)

My Must Keep Off Contract Players To Resign are – Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Remis Smith, Brandon Wakeham, Renouf To’omaga.

My Maybe Keep Off Contract Players are – Josh Jackson (will be 30yrs old & on around 700k ish, can no longer handle the edge – so maybe not), Jack Cogger (IMO he will make a great utility/9 – reminds me of Polla-Mounter), Lachlan Lewis, Jeremy Marshall-King, Jarred Anderson (I don’t know him).

My Off-Contract Players To Let Go are – Kieran Foran 30yrs. Aiden Tolman 32yrs. Will Hopoate 28yrs. Raymond Faitala-Mariner 27yrs, Adam Elliott 26yrs, Kerrod Holland 28yrs, Marcelo Montoya 25yrs, Chris Smith 27yrs, Sauaso Sue 28yrs.

With so many off contract, rather than individually swapping players I just tried to start from scratch.

MY 2021 TEAM

1. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 25yrs 6ft1, 97kg. Other Options –Tom Trbojevic 24yrs 6ft4, 102kg. Latrell Mitchell 23 yrs 6ft4, 102kg (big bucks = must play 1). Ryan Papenhuyzen 21 yrs 5ft11, 80kg. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad 25yrs 5ft11, 94kg

2. Remis Smith 23yrs 6ft5, 97kg.

3. Zac Lomax 21yrs 6ft3, 94kg (Goal Kicker) “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options (include below) – Dallin Watene-Zelezniak. Latrell Mitchell 23 yrs 6ft4, 102kg.

4. Nick Cotric 22yrs 6ft1, 98kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options (include above) – Joseph Manu Centre 24yr 6ft4, 98kg. Jesse Ramien 24yrs 6ft, 98kg. Kotoni Staggs 22 yrs 6ft1, 92kg.

5. Jayden Okunbor – 24yrs 6ft5, 108kg.

6. Jake Clifford 23yrs 6ft, 95kg (Goal Kicker) “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Lachlan Lewis 24yrs 6ft3, 90kg. Jaemon Salmon 22yrs 6ft2, 98kg.

7. Brodie Croft 23yrs 5ft10, 86kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Jake Clifford. Jack Cogger. Brandon Wakeham.

8. Thomas Flegler 21yrs 6ft3, 108kg. Other Options – Ofahiki Ogden 24yrs 6ft4, 106kg. Jake Trbojevic 27yrs 6ft1, 107kg. Hermen Ese’ese 26yrs Prop 6ft1, 107kg. Alex Twal 24yrs 6ft3, 104kg. Corey Horsburgh 23yrs 6ft2, 100kg.

9. Jayden Brailey 24yrs 5ft10 88kg.

10. Christian Welch – 26yrs 6ft5, 110kg. Other Options (see props listed above).

11. Corey Harawira-Naera 24yrs 6ft2, 96kg.

12. Joe Stimpson 23yrs 6ft2, 104kg.

13. David Fafita 21 yrs 6ft1, 107kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Josh Jackson 30yrs 5ft11, 99kg. Jai Arrow 25yrs 6ft2 101kg. Renouf Tooamaga 26yrs 6ft3, 110kg.


14. Jack Cogger 23yrs 5ft9, 83kg. Other Options – Connor Tracey 22yrs 6ft, 87kg. Jed Cartwright 23yrs 6ft4, 104kg. Jeremy Marshall King 25yrs 6ft1, 83kg. Brandon Wakeham 22yrs 5ft8, 78kg

15. Ofahiki Ogden 24yrs 6ft4 106kg.

16. Dylan Napa 28yrs 6ft6 113kg.

17. Renouf Tooamaga 26yrs 6ft3, 110kg.

Reserves

Jed Cartwright

Connor Tracey

Brandon Wakeham

Pus other contracted & Promoted Juniors


Conclusion

After winning the spoon in 2008, in 2009 we made 5 major Key Signings which immediately turned us around. David Stagg, Ben Hannant, Michael Ennis, Brett Kimmorley & Josh Morris. With 24 players off contract in the next 2 seasons, I believe we have the ability to be even more pro-active in buying. I have nominated 2 major “KEY Signings” for 2020 & 5 major “KEY Signings for 2021.

Rather than pour 1 million bucks into each of a few players I’ve gone for a more balanced squad. At this stage of their careers, I wouldn’t see any of these players exceed around the 8 to 900k mark.

I think you can see that there will be some good options for us to build a decent team to challenge for the top 4 moving forward from 2021. To me, it makes more sense to go harder for the limited good halves available rather than throw everything at the Trbojevic boys or Latrell Mitchell. We all got opinions on who we should target moving forward, this was mine – now for yours.

What an effort!! Good stuff joe

 

[Papa Joe]

I was speaking to an ex- NRL player about NRL coaches and he specifically told me players from all clubs talk to each other all the time when they have offers to sign up to a new club.
One of the major talking points between players is who the head coach is? is he any good? can players communicate with them? is he smart? etc etc...

I left a coach out of the team because this is a whole separate argument.
I've got no idea about their abilities as a coach and if players like being coached by them, but if I was gonna take a guess at who might replace Dean Pay next year (if that's the way they are leanning towards & with most the good coaches currently contracted) it would be between the following -

Trent Barrett
Kevin Walters
Adam O'Brien (highly rated Roosters assistant coach)
Jim Dymock
Justin Hoolbrook (super League, but not sure of his contract).

Unless of course they stick with Pay OR have another coach be released from their existing contract.

 

[_G-Dog_]

Bring Thurston out of retirement..

 

[_G-Dog_]

PUT SIMPLY - WE NEED TO REBUILD................... (yeah, no shit right).

I would replace all 6 off contract players for 2020. There is also a rumor that we got a spare 600k (triple M).

I looked at all off contract players for the next 2 years according to "Zero Tackle" and tried to create a plan for our squad to improve without knowing their exact salaries.

We can’t buy every superstar under the cap & I have only nominated off contract players or those free to negotiate. I would have liked someone such as Kyle Flanagan but he can’t move until 2022.

I think we are too small & ineffective in our middle forwards, not creative from dummy half, weak in the centres & lack that strike back you need to be the difference in the halves or at fullback. (basically we r f'd)

My nominated new players are based on Age, Size, Potential (IMO) & within the budget. I avoided players over the age of 27 to build a long-term squad & have given all available options that I thought are worth consideration in my opinion. You will all have & be entitled to yours.

OUR OFF-CONTRACT PLAYERS & THEIR REPLACEMENTS For 2020 (NB: Age is 2020 season start)

1. Michael Liccha - Replaced By - Jayden Brailey 23yrs Hooker 5ft.10 88kg “2020 KEY Signing” (free to negotiate). Other options - Jake Turpin 22yrs - Reece Robson 20yrs, Jacob Liddle 22 yrs

2. Rhyse Martin – (gone) Replaced By - Joe Stimpson 6ft2, 104kg.

3. John Olive - Replaced By - Jed Cartwright 22yrs 6ft4, 104kg. Other options - Jesse Arthars 21yrs 6ft2, 88kg. OR promote a junior.

4. Fa'amanu Brown - Replaced By - Connor Tracey 22yrs 6ft, 87kg. Other options - Cade Cust 21 yrs 5ft11, 87kg. Jai Field - 22yrs, 5ft11, 85kg. OR promote a junior.

5. Danny Fualalo - Replaced By - Christian Welch 25yrs Prop 6ft5, 110kg "2020 KEY Signing" (1yr option at Storm) he is even worth taking the salary of 2 current players (IMO) & promote a junior.

6. Francis Tualau (gone) - Replaced By - promote a junior.

If Welch decides to take up his 1-year Storm option for 2020 then I would chase him for 2021.

MY 2020 TEAM

1. Nick Meany

2. Remis Smith

3. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak

4. Will Hopoate

5. Jayden Okunbor

6. Kieran Foran

7. Jack Cogger

8. Aiden Tolman

9. Jayden Brailey

10. Christian Welch OR If we can’t get him then – Ogden

11. Corey Harawira-Naera

12. Joe Stimpson

13. Josh Jackson


14. Lachlan Lewis OR JMK

15. Ofahiki Ogden

16. Dylan Napa

17. Renouf Tooamaga

Reserves

Jed Cartwright

Connor Tracey

PLUS other current contracted players


18 OFF CONTRACT PLAYERS FOR 2021 (NB: Age is at the start of season 2021)

My Must Keep Off Contract Players To Resign are – Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Remis Smith, Brandon Wakeham, Renouf To’omaga.

My Maybe Keep Off Contract Players are – Josh Jackson (will be 30yrs old & on around 700k ish, can no longer handle the edge – so maybe not), Jack Cogger (IMO he will make a great utility/9 – reminds me of Polla-Mounter), Lachlan Lewis, Jeremy Marshall-King, Jarred Anderson (I don’t know him).

My Off-Contract Players To Let Go are – Kieran Foran 30yrs. Aiden Tolman 32yrs. Will Hopoate 28yrs. Raymond Faitala-Mariner 27yrs, Adam Elliott 26yrs, Kerrod Holland 28yrs, Marcelo Montoya 25yrs, Chris Smith 27yrs, Sauaso Sue 28yrs.

With so many off contract, rather than individually swapping players I just tried to start from scratch.

MY 2021 TEAM

1. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 25yrs 6ft1, 97kg. Other Options –Tom Trbojevic 24yrs 6ft4, 102kg. Latrell Mitchell 23 yrs 6ft4, 102kg (big bucks = must play 1). Ryan Papenhuyzen 21 yrs 5ft11, 80kg. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad 25yrs 5ft11, 94kg

2. Remis Smith 23yrs 6ft5, 97kg.

3. Zac Lomax 21yrs 6ft3, 94kg (Goal Kicker) “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options (include below) – Dallin Watene-Zelezniak. Latrell Mitchell 23 yrs 6ft4, 102kg.

4. Nick Cotric 22yrs 6ft1, 98kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options (include above) – Joseph Manu Centre 24yr 6ft4, 98kg. Jesse Ramien 24yrs 6ft, 98kg. Kotoni Staggs 22 yrs 6ft1, 92kg.

5. Jayden Okunbor – 24yrs 6ft5, 108kg.

6. Jake Clifford 23yrs 6ft, 95kg (Goal Kicker) “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Lachlan Lewis 24yrs 6ft3, 90kg. Jaemon Salmon 22yrs 6ft2, 98kg.

7. Brodie Croft 23yrs 5ft10, 86kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Jake Clifford. Jack Cogger. Brandon Wakeham.

8. Thomas Flegler 21yrs 6ft3, 108kg. Other Options – Ofahiki Ogden 24yrs 6ft4, 106kg. Jake Trbojevic 27yrs 6ft1, 107kg. Hermen Ese’ese 26yrs Prop 6ft1, 107kg. Alex Twal 24yrs 6ft3, 104kg. Corey Horsburgh 23yrs 6ft2, 100kg.

9. Jayden Brailey 24yrs 5ft10 88kg.

10. Christian Welch – 26yrs 6ft5, 110kg. Other Options (see props listed above).

11. Corey Harawira-Naera 24yrs 6ft2, 96kg.

12. Joe Stimpson 23yrs 6ft2, 104kg.

13. David Fafita 21 yrs 6ft1, 107kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Josh Jackson 30yrs 5ft11, 99kg. Jai Arrow 25yrs 6ft2 101kg. Renouf Tooamaga 26yrs 6ft3, 110kg.


14. Jack Cogger 23yrs 5ft9, 83kg. Other Options – Connor Tracey 22yrs 6ft, 87kg. Jed Cartwright 23yrs 6ft4, 104kg. Jeremy Marshall King 25yrs 6ft1, 83kg. Brandon Wakeham 22yrs 5ft8, 78kg

15. Ofahiki Ogden 24yrs 6ft4 106kg.

16. Dylan Napa 28yrs 6ft6 113kg.

17. Renouf Tooamaga 26yrs 6ft3, 110kg.

Reserves

Jed Cartwright

Connor Tracey

Brandon Wakeham

Pus other contracted & Promoted Juniors


Conclusion

After winning the spoon in 2008, in 2009 we made 5 major Key Signings which immediately turned us around. David Stagg, Ben Hannant, Michael Ennis, Brett Kimmorley & Josh Morris. With 24 players off contract in the next 2 seasons, I believe we have the ability to be even more pro-active in buying. I have nominated 2 major “KEY Signings” for 2020 & 5 major “KEY Signings for 2021.

Rather than pour 1 million bucks into each of a few players I’ve gone for a more balanced squad. At this stage of their careers, I wouldn’t see any of these players exceed around the 8 to 900k mark.

I think you can see that there will be some good options for us to build a decent team to challenge for the top 4 moving forward from 2021. To me, it makes more sense to go harder for the limited good halves available rather than throw everything at the Trbojevic boys or Latrell Mitchell. We all got opinions on who we should target moving forward, this was mine – now for yours.

Send this to Lynne.. it looks more thorough and detaied than her plan to rebuild with a good prop & goalkicker ..

 

[Papa Joe]

Send this to Lynne.. it looks more thorough and detaied than her plan to rebuild with a good prop & goalkicker ..

Have you got her email address??? I could do with a job right now

 

[The_Chimpster]

Jackson is only worth 700k if he can get it elsewhere. I think we could keep him for 500k. We could also keep Tolman for 400k (200k with veteran allowance).

700k is way too much for Jackson, I can't see any other clubs offering anywhere near that amount for what he brings (which Is experience, I don't see him as much of a leader on field)

That's just me though

 

[Scoooby]

700k is way too much for Jackson, I can't see any other clubs offering anywhere near that amount for what he brings (which Is experience, I don't see him as much of a leader on field)

That's just me though

Derp derp !!

 

[Blue&whiteAxe]

PUT SIMPLY - WE NEED TO REBUILD................... (yeah, no shit right).

I would replace all 6 off contract players for 2020. There is also a rumor that we got a spare 600k (triple M).

I looked at all off contract players for the next 2 years according to "Zero Tackle" and tried to create a plan for our squad to improve without knowing their exact salaries.

We can’t buy every superstar under the cap & I have only nominated off contract players or those free to negotiate. I would have liked someone such as Kyle Flanagan but he can’t move until 2022.

I think we are too small & ineffective in our middle forwards, not creative from dummy half, weak in the centres & lack that strike back you need to be the difference in the halves or at fullback. (basically we r f'd)

My nominated new players are based on Age, Size, Potential (IMO) & within the budget. I avoided players over the age of 27 to build a long-term squad & have given all available options that I thought are worth consideration in my opinion. You will all have & be entitled to yours.

OUR OFF-CONTRACT PLAYERS & THEIR REPLACEMENTS For 2020 (NB: Age is 2020 season start)

1. Michael Liccha - Replaced By - Jayden Brailey 23yrs Hooker 5ft.10 88kg “2020 KEY Signing” (free to negotiate). Other options - Jake Turpin 22yrs - Reece Robson 20yrs, Jacob Liddle 22 yrs

2. Rhyse Martin – (gone) Replaced By - Joe Stimpson 6ft2, 104kg.

3. John Olive - Replaced By - Jed Cartwright 22yrs 6ft4, 104kg. Other options - Jesse Arthars 21yrs 6ft2, 88kg. OR promote a junior.

4. Fa'amanu Brown - Replaced By - Connor Tracey 22yrs 6ft, 87kg. Other options - Cade Cust 21 yrs 5ft11, 87kg. Jai Field - 22yrs, 5ft11, 85kg. OR promote a junior.

5. Danny Fualalo - Replaced By - Christian Welch 25yrs Prop 6ft5, 110kg "2020 KEY Signing" (1yr option at Storm) he is even worth taking the salary of 2 current players (IMO) & promote a junior.

6. Francis Tualau (gone) - Replaced By - promote a junior.

If Welch decides to take up his 1-year Storm option for 2020 then I would chase him for 2021.

MY 2020 TEAM

1. Nick Meany

2. Remis Smith

3. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak

4. Will Hopoate

5. Jayden Okunbor

6. Kieran Foran

7. Jack Cogger

8. Aiden Tolman

9. Jayden Brailey

10. Christian Welch OR If we can’t get him then – Ogden

11. Corey Harawira-Naera

12. Joe Stimpson

13. Josh Jackson


14. Lachlan Lewis OR JMK

15. Ofahiki Ogden

16. Dylan Napa

17. Renouf Tooamaga

Reserves

Jed Cartwright

Connor Tracey

PLUS other current contracted players


18 OFF CONTRACT PLAYERS FOR 2021 (NB: Age is at the start of season 2021)

My Must Keep Off Contract Players To Resign are – Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Remis Smith, Brandon Wakeham, Renouf To’omaga.

My Maybe Keep Off Contract Players are – Josh Jackson (will be 30yrs old & on around 700k ish, can no longer handle the edge – so maybe not), Jack Cogger (IMO he will make a great utility/9 – reminds me of Polla-Mounter), Lachlan Lewis, Jeremy Marshall-King, Jarred Anderson (I don’t know him).

My Off-Contract Players To Let Go are – Kieran Foran 30yrs. Aiden Tolman 32yrs. Will Hopoate 28yrs. Raymond Faitala-Mariner 27yrs, Adam Elliott 26yrs, Kerrod Holland 28yrs, Marcelo Montoya 25yrs, Chris Smith 27yrs, Sauaso Sue 28yrs.

With so many off contract, rather than individually swapping players I just tried to start from scratch.

MY 2021 TEAM

1. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 25yrs 6ft1, 97kg. Other Options –Tom Trbojevic 24yrs 6ft4, 102kg. Latrell Mitchell 23 yrs 6ft4, 102kg (big bucks = must play 1). Ryan Papenhuyzen 21 yrs 5ft11, 80kg. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad 25yrs 5ft11, 94kg

2. Remis Smith 23yrs 6ft5, 97kg.

3. Zac Lomax 21yrs 6ft3, 94kg (Goal Kicker) “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options (include below) – Dallin Watene-Zelezniak. Latrell Mitchell 23 yrs 6ft4, 102kg.

4. Nick Cotric 22yrs 6ft1, 98kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options (include above) – Joseph Manu Centre 24yr 6ft4, 98kg. Jesse Ramien 24yrs 6ft, 98kg. Kotoni Staggs 22 yrs 6ft1, 92kg.

5. Jayden Okunbor – 24yrs 6ft5, 108kg.

6. Jake Clifford 23yrs 6ft, 95kg (Goal Kicker) “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Lachlan Lewis 24yrs 6ft3, 90kg. Jaemon Salmon 22yrs 6ft2, 98kg.

7. Brodie Croft 23yrs 5ft10, 86kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Jake Clifford. Jack Cogger. Brandon Wakeham.

8. Thomas Flegler 21yrs 6ft3, 108kg. Other Options – Ofahiki Ogden 24yrs 6ft4, 106kg. Jake Trbojevic 27yrs 6ft1, 107kg. Hermen Ese’ese 26yrs Prop 6ft1, 107kg. Alex Twal 24yrs 6ft3, 104kg. Corey Horsburgh 23yrs 6ft2, 100kg.

9. Jayden Brailey 24yrs 5ft10 88kg.

10. Christian Welch – 26yrs 6ft5, 110kg. Other Options (see props listed above).

11. Corey Harawira-Naera 24yrs 6ft2, 96kg.

12. Joe Stimpson 23yrs 6ft2, 104kg.

13. David Fafita 21 yrs 6ft1, 107kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Josh Jackson 30yrs 5ft11, 99kg. Jai Arrow 25yrs 6ft2 101kg. Renouf Tooamaga 26yrs 6ft3, 110kg.


14. Jack Cogger 23yrs 5ft9, 83kg. Other Options – Connor Tracey 22yrs 6ft, 87kg. Jed Cartwright 23yrs 6ft4, 104kg. Jeremy Marshall King 25yrs 6ft1, 83kg. Brandon Wakeham 22yrs 5ft8, 78kg

15. Ofahiki Ogden 24yrs 6ft4 106kg.

16. Dylan Napa 28yrs 6ft6 113kg.

17. Renouf Tooamaga 26yrs 6ft3, 110kg.

Reserves

Jed Cartwright

Connor Tracey

Brandon Wakeham

Pus other contracted & Promoted Juniors


Conclusion

After winning the spoon in 2008, in 2009 we made 5 major Key Signings which immediately turned us around. David Stagg, Ben Hannant, Michael Ennis, Brett Kimmorley & Josh Morris. With 24 players off contract in the next 2 seasons, I believe we have the ability to be even more pro-active in buying. I have nominated 2 major “KEY Signings” for 2020 & 5 major “KEY Signings for 2021.

Rather than pour 1 million bucks into each of a few players I’ve gone for a more balanced squad. At this stage of their careers, I wouldn’t see any of these players exceed around the 8 to 900k mark.

I think you can see that there will be some good options for us to build a decent team to challenge for the top 4 moving forward from 2021. To me, it makes more sense to go harder for the limited good halves available rather than throw everything at the Trbojevic boys or Latrell Mitchell. We all got opinions on who we should target moving forward, this was mine – now for yours.

Enjoyed your thread, good read and well thoughtout. Good attention to detail...want a job?

 

[Horse]

Good research, and you've found some promising names worth pursuing.

But sadly in reality the end product is the work of pure fantasy.

To even remotely suggest we can discard 6 hacks at the end of this year and then somehow lure 10 of the game's brightest talents to the club by 2021 is pretty farfetched.

 

[bullanth]

PUT SIMPLY - WE NEED TO REBUILD................... (yeah, no shit right).

I would replace all 6 off contract players for 2020. There is also a rumor that we got a spare 600k (triple M).

I looked at all off contract players for the next 2 years according to "Zero Tackle" and tried to create a plan for our squad to improve without knowing their exact salaries.

We can’t buy every superstar under the cap & I have only nominated off contract players or those free to negotiate. I would have liked someone such as Kyle Flanagan but he can’t move until 2022.

I think we are too small & ineffective in our middle forwards, not creative from dummy half, weak in the centres & lack that strike back you need to be the difference in the halves or at fullback. (basically we r f'd)

My nominated new players are based on Age, Size, Potential (IMO) & within the budget. I avoided players over the age of 27 to build a long-term squad & have given all available options that I thought are worth consideration in my opinion. You will all have & be entitled to yours.

OUR OFF-CONTRACT PLAYERS & THEIR REPLACEMENTS For 2020 (NB: Age is 2020 season start)

1. Michael Liccha - Replaced By - Jayden Brailey 23yrs Hooker 5ft.10 88kg “2020 KEY Signing” (free to negotiate). Other options - Jake Turpin 22yrs - Reece Robson 20yrs, Jacob Liddle 22 yrs

2. Rhyse Martin – (gone) Replaced By - Joe Stimpson 6ft2, 104kg.

3. John Olive - Replaced By - Jed Cartwright 22yrs 6ft4, 104kg. Other options - Jesse Arthars 21yrs 6ft2, 88kg. OR promote a junior.

4. Fa'amanu Brown - Replaced By - Connor Tracey 22yrs 6ft, 87kg. Other options - Cade Cust 21 yrs 5ft11, 87kg. Jai Field - 22yrs, 5ft11, 85kg. OR promote a junior.

5. Danny Fualalo - Replaced By - Christian Welch 25yrs Prop 6ft5, 110kg "2020 KEY Signing" (1yr option at Storm) he is even worth taking the salary of 2 current players (IMO) & promote a junior.

6. Francis Tualau (gone) - Replaced By - promote a junior.

If Welch decides to take up his 1-year Storm option for 2020 then I would chase him for 2021.

MY 2020 TEAM

1. Nick Meany

2. Remis Smith

3. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak

4. Will Hopoate

5. Jayden Okunbor

6. Kieran Foran

7. Jack Cogger

8. Aiden Tolman

9. Jayden Brailey

10. Christian Welch OR If we can’t get him then – Ogden

11. Corey Harawira-Naera

12. Joe Stimpson

13. Josh Jackson


14. Lachlan Lewis OR JMK

15. Ofahiki Ogden

16. Dylan Napa

17. Renouf Tooamaga

Reserves

Jed Cartwright

Connor Tracey

PLUS other current contracted players


18 OFF CONTRACT PLAYERS FOR 2021 (NB: Age is at the start of season 2021)

My Must Keep Off Contract Players To Resign are – Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Remis Smith, Brandon Wakeham, Renouf To’omaga.

My Maybe Keep Off Contract Players are – Josh Jackson (will be 30yrs old & on around 700k ish, can no longer handle the edge – so maybe not), Jack Cogger (IMO he will make a great utility/9 – reminds me of Polla-Mounter), Lachlan Lewis, Jeremy Marshall-King, Jarred Anderson (I don’t know him).

My Off-Contract Players To Let Go are – Kieran Foran 30yrs. Aiden Tolman 32yrs. Will Hopoate 28yrs. Raymond Faitala-Mariner 27yrs, Adam Elliott 26yrs, Kerrod Holland 28yrs, Marcelo Montoya 25yrs, Chris Smith 27yrs, Sauaso Sue 28yrs.

With so many off contract, rather than individually swapping players I just tried to start from scratch.

MY 2021 TEAM

1. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 25yrs 6ft1, 97kg. Other Options –Tom Trbojevic 24yrs 6ft4, 102kg. Latrell Mitchell 23 yrs 6ft4, 102kg (big bucks = must play 1). Ryan Papenhuyzen 21 yrs 5ft11, 80kg. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad 25yrs 5ft11, 94kg

2. Remis Smith 23yrs 6ft5, 97kg.

3. Zac Lomax 21yrs 6ft3, 94kg (Goal Kicker) “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options (include below) – Dallin Watene-Zelezniak. Latrell Mitchell 23 yrs 6ft4, 102kg.

4. Nick Cotric 22yrs 6ft1, 98kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options (include above) – Joseph Manu Centre 24yr 6ft4, 98kg. Jesse Ramien 24yrs 6ft, 98kg. Kotoni Staggs 22 yrs 6ft1, 92kg.

5. Jayden Okunbor – 24yrs 6ft5, 108kg.

6. Jake Clifford 23yrs 6ft, 95kg (Goal Kicker) “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Lachlan Lewis 24yrs 6ft3, 90kg. Jaemon Salmon 22yrs 6ft2, 98kg.

7. Brodie Croft 23yrs 5ft10, 86kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Jake Clifford. Jack Cogger. Brandon Wakeham.

8. Thomas Flegler 21yrs 6ft3, 108kg. Other Options – Ofahiki Ogden 24yrs 6ft4, 106kg. Jake Trbojevic 27yrs 6ft1, 107kg. Hermen Ese’ese 26yrs Prop 6ft1, 107kg. Alex Twal 24yrs 6ft3, 104kg. Corey Horsburgh 23yrs 6ft2, 100kg.

9. Jayden Brailey 24yrs 5ft10 88kg.

10. Christian Welch – 26yrs 6ft5, 110kg. Other Options (see props listed above).

11. Corey Harawira-Naera 24yrs 6ft2, 96kg.

12. Joe Stimpson 23yrs 6ft2, 104kg.

13. David Fafita 21 yrs 6ft1, 107kg “2021 KEY Signing”. Other Options – Josh Jackson 30yrs 5ft11, 99kg. Jai Arrow 25yrs 6ft2 101kg. Renouf Tooamaga 26yrs 6ft3, 110kg.


14. Jack Cogger 23yrs 5ft9, 83kg. Other Options – Connor Tracey 22yrs 6ft, 87kg. Jed Cartwright 23yrs 6ft4, 104kg. Jeremy Marshall King 25yrs 6ft1, 83kg. Brandon Wakeham 22yrs 5ft8, 78kg

15. Ofahiki Ogden 24yrs 6ft4 106kg.

16. Dylan Napa 28yrs 6ft6 113kg.

17. Renouf Tooamaga 26yrs 6ft3, 110kg.

Reserves

Jed Cartwright

Connor Tracey

Brandon Wakeham

Pus other contracted & Promoted Juniors


Conclusion

After winning the spoon in 2008, in 2009 we made 5 major Key Signings which immediately turned us around. David Stagg, Ben Hannant, Michael Ennis, Brett Kimmorley & Josh Morris. With 24 players off contract in the next 2 seasons, I believe we have the ability to be even more pro-active in buying. I have nominated 2 major “KEY Signings” for 2020 & 5 major “KEY Signings for 2021.

Rather than pour 1 million bucks into each of a few players I’ve gone for a more balanced squad. At this stage of their careers, I wouldn’t see any of these players exceed around the 8 to 900k mark.

I think you can see that there will be some good options for us to build a decent team to challenge for the top 4 moving forward from 2021. To me, it makes more sense to go harder for the limited good halves available rather than throw everything at the Trbojevic boys or Latrell Mitchell. We all got opinions on who we should target moving forward, this was mine – now for yours.

U forgot one very important thing ,someone that can coach

 

[Kiwipup]

We have our halfback for 2021 and that is Brandon Wakeham

 

[Papa Joe]

Enjoyed your thread, good read and well throughout. Good attention to detail...want a job?

Hi Blue & White Axe, thanks for your comments. It took me a while to put together.
What do you have in mind???

 

[Scoooby]

U forgot one very important thing ,someone that can coach

Ohhhh you got an optimistic from horse

 

[Papa Joe]

Good research, and you've found some promising names worth pursuing.

But sadly in reality the end product is the work of pure fantasy.

To even remotely suggest we can discard 6 hacks at the end of this year and then somehow lure 10 of the game's brightest talents to the club by 2021 is pretty farfetched.

Oh but you forgot Horse, In this world - All Things Are Possible.............. at least that's what I'm praying for.

 

[Papa Joe]

We have our halfback for 2021 and that is Brandon Wakeham

You could be right Kiwi Pup, that's why I put him there as one of our options.

 

[Mr Invisible]

I could do with a job right now

Hand or Rim?

 

[Horse]

Hand or Rim?

I’ve heard @Realist90 offers men these kind of services.

 

[maroondog72]

Turpin for stimpson for mine and Clifford will be lucky to be still playing first grade in 2021 big no thanks from me

 

[Turvey Chip and Chase]

Great post, very well detailed
For me

Target hard

* Welch
* Either Staggs/Xerri/Lomax/Cotric
Only 1 though. Can’t afford more
* either B Smith or Robinson
* 1 gun half. I don’t have an answer, but they must be a gun

Unless of course we are a realistic chance of Trbojevic bros then reassess after that.

Team 2020

DWZ
Smith
Staggs/Xerri/Lomax/Cotric
Hoppa
Okunbor/Meaney
Cogger / Lewis / Wakeman
Foran
Tolman
Smith
Welch
Stimpson
CHN
Jackson

Napa
Ogden
RFM/To’omaga
Cogger/Lewis/Wakeman

Team 2021

Turbo
Smith
DWZ
Staggs/Xerri/Lomax/Cotric
Okunbor (another year experience)
Cogger / Lewis / Wakeman
Foran (reduced offer)
Ogden (should be a starting prop then)
Smith
Welch
Jackson(reduced offer)
CHN
Jake Trbojevic

Napa
To’omaga
Stimpson
Cogger/Lewis/Wakeman