Is it the coach? Is it the players? Certainly a combination of both. If we stick with Pay the roster needs to be turned over , we cant continue on the way it is going. Yes Pay makes some mind blowing decisions on selections that we don't understand or support. My question is are they players not even trying? Or don't care? They drop the ball, the kick poorly, thy cant score more than 12 points a game. Is it the game plan?. poor coaching? Shit squad? Coach lost players respect? Either way massive changed are needed, I don't mind getting beaten by 30 plus if we have a young team who are playing with passion and improving. We had that in the last 6 rounds of last year. We have gone backwards over the footy we were playing at the end of 2018. Pick a team and play the players in right positions and stick with the fn team. Moving and dropping players every week is not the answer. Meaney is not a winger. Montoya cant tackle. Tolman cant attack. Jacko looks injured. We are going around in circles and have not taken any steps forward in the last 8 weeks or more. Us long time fans can see these things then why cant the coach? So Pay must accept full responsibility in that area. But who is the answer at coach??