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Let's agree that some climate change is happening and humans are part of the cause.

With that accepted, please tell me why 1st World Countries are being commanded into reducing our emissions (eg; Australia, USA) at great economic cost, while 2nd and 3rd World Countries (eg; India, China) are allowed to increase their emissions by multiples of what out total emissions are? It's simple maths, India will INCREASE its emissions (ie; improve their standard of living) next year by many times what we can reduce our emissions by even if we went to zero, zilch, diddly squat, SFA emissions. (ie; lower our standard of living). Plainly a socialist agenda, there is no other possible explanation.


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of course india will increase their emissions, they were the biggest buyer of nsw coal last year, buying more then china, which probably makes them the biggest investor in nsw economy in 2018 lol
 

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Yes, but you don't then turn around and introduce these extra taxes to bring values down, this hurts the person who owns property and paid big bucks for it. Mate when peoples equity gets eroded away, spending decreases, and if speading decreases, business shut down and the economy gets screwed. You try and find a solution that helps first home buyers without affecting those who have worked hard all their lives and built up their wealth through property. The Robin hood approach is what is bullshit. Steal from the rich and give to the poor.
the laws that put property investment ahead of people owning homes were designed to help ppl with money make money and created the rental peoblems we have now. Effectively rich stealing from the poor so don't see how thats any different really.
 

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the laws that put property investment ahead of people owning homes were designed to help ppl with money make money and created the rental peoblems we have now. Effectively rich stealing from the poor so don't see how thats any different really.
What!!? Did you just say the laws put property investment ahead of people owning homes? Lol, When you’re an owner occupier property owner you don’t have to pay capital gains tax when you sell but you do if you sell an investment property. What about land tax on investment properties where owner occupier homes are exempt from paying this tax as well, did you forget those taxes. What about GST on newly built investment homes you have to pay tax on if you sell before 5 years of ownership? Did you forget that one as well? Have you checked out how cheap interest rates are for owner occupier home loans compared to investment home loans?

And you want to tell me the laws are designed to put property investments ahead of owning the home you live in. Hahahahaha

Investors(Landlords) also pay council rates and water service costs that renters do not pay for while renting the property? What about LandLords insurances costs and ongoing repair and maintenance costs to the home that investors fork out? All these federal and state taxes investors pay goes to the government to improve roads, parks, train lines, buses and the rest to improve the standard of living in Australia. Builders create hundreds of thousands of jobs around the country and keep skilled people employed like engineers, architects, trades man, accountants, conveyancers, traffic controllers etc due to high demand for investment. This is what keeps the country progressing and moving.
 

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What!!? Did you just say the laws put property investment ahead of people owning homes? Lol, When you’re an owner occupier property owner you don’t have to pay capital gains tax when you sell but you do if you sell an investment property. What about land tax on investment properties where owner occupier homes are exempt from paying this tax as well, did you forget those taxes. What about GST on newly built investment homes you have to pay tax on if you sell before 5 years of ownership? Did you forget that one as well? Have you checked out how cheap interest rates are for owner occupier home loans compared to investment home loans?

And you want to tell me the laws are designed to put property investments ahead of owning the home you live in. Hahahahaha

Investors(Landlords) also pay council rates and water service costs that renters do not pay for while renting the property? What about LandLords insurances costs and ongoing repair and maintenance costs to the home that investors fork out? All these federal and state taxes investors pay goes to the government to improve roads, parks, train lines, buses and the rest to improve the standard of living in Australia. Builders create hundreds of thousands of jobs around the country and keep skilled people employed like engineers, architects, trades man, accountants, conveyancers, traffic controllers etc due to high demand for investment. This is what keeps the country progressing and moving.
pmsl i'm a tad confused now are you trying to say that there a so many costs involved in investing in property that it's not worth it? If so you must be plain stupid to invest in property. Or are you saying that it's a good investment that creates money which feeds the economy. Property investment has put house prices through the roof which in turn pumps rental prices up wich leaves ppl who don't own their own home already trapped paying through the teeth just to stay afloat. Am paying off my home but the way things are now my kids will be living with me till their farken 50 unless they become doctors or lawyers. More people unhappy with the way the country is headed now then ever before, cost of living is part of it. You looking at it for how it benifits you and your investment. Try pulling up at a job site grab a few labourers and tell them how your doing them a favour owning 2,3,4 properties lol
 

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pmsl i'm a tad confused now are you trying to say that there a so many costs involved in investing in property that it's not worth it? If so you must be plain stupid to invest in property. Or are you saying that it's a good investment that creates money which feeds the economy. Property investment has put house prices through the roof which in turn pumps rental prices up wich leaves ppl who don't own their own home already trapped paying through the teeth just to stay afloat. Am paying off my home but the way things are now my kids will be living with me till their farken 50 unless they become doctors or lawyers. More people unhappy with the way the country is headed now then ever before, cost of living is part of it. You looking at it for how it benifits you and your investment. Try pulling up at a job site grab a few labourers and tell them how your doing them a favour owning 2,3,4 properties lol
Nothing to be confused about. I'm simply replying to what you said. You said that the laws are designed to put property investment ahead of people owning their own homes.
I'm simply saying that this is not the case. It's actually easier to buy your principal place of residence(owner occupier, where you own and live in the home) than it is to buy a property as an investment. I didn't say it wasn't worth buying an investment property as an investment, but the tax exemptions and benefits of owner occupier purchases debunks your theory of "laws designed to put property investments ahead of owning your own home"

The benefits of Owner occupier home purchases:
1. No capital gains tax
2. No GST on sale of new properties
3. No Land tax
4. Lower interest rates than investment loans
5. Benefits for first home purchases(grants and stamp duty exemptions)

Australia is the land or opportunity and prosperity. Have a look at suburban Australia as it is today compared to a lot of countries around the world. It is the best country in the world thanks to it's laws. It has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the whole world.

You know Australia is a big country, no one is forcing you to live in an expensive area.

And by the way you don't have to be a doctor or a lawyer to buy your own home, unless of course your talking about living in Vaucluse.

These days kids waste their whole 20's and thousands of dollars on partying, travelling and buying cars and end up having no money to put a deposit on a house when they are in their 30's.

Sorry but this is called choice. I don't buy it and I never will.
 
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