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Napa can’t play bigger minutes, never has been able to....
 

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Ogden should start.. Tolman needs to stay because of his work rate and defence, Naps is good off the bench as cant play enough mins at the moment..!!

As it stands, until we find better replacements we need Tolman there, he is starting to get past it YES,but it is what it is.
 

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Dont just drop, SELL!!!

If Tolman and Jacko are on a combined price of 1.6mil next yr then pull the plug on both. Start playing RT, Kalache and a few other young guys to see what we really need to purchase. Plenty of young talent out there that could do a much better job for much less.
 

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Didn't realise twelvies were now permitted on the kennel.

Stupid thread. Would agree we need to use him better, but drop? lol okay.

Not every prop has to give "Impact", or be a big body. If he gets the job done, makes us metres, makes first contact, and steadies our middle D - then he stays. And he is ticking those boxes at the moment.

There is a reason Pay has him in the team - it's because he is the best we have, and consistently has the output.

And most importantly, he plays round 12 and is in my supercoach team. So fuck right off with that bs!
 

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I'd love for Ogden to start but even if he comes off the bench, there's no reason he still can't play 40-50 minutes.
He plays big minutes in Canterbury Cup. He was killing it in the second half ,only played 12 minutes made a great run and won a penalty and was taken off. He sprinted off and didn't even look tired. I have been trying to support Pay but should never of taken him off at that point. Seems to only have a plan A with his rotations. He and Danny had Knights on the back foot at that point. Unfortunately he replaced the wrong person.
 

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Napa can’t play bigger minutes, never has been able to....
He played somewhere near to 70min if i'm not mistaken once this yr... His got it in him. Bloke is a leader..
 

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Didn't realise twelvies were now permitted on the kennel.

Stupid thread. Would agree we need to use him better, but drop? lol okay.

Not every prop has to give "Impact", or be a big body. If he gets the job done, makes us metres, makes first contact, and steadies our middle D - then he stays. And he is ticking those boxes at the moment.

There is a reason Pay has him in the team - it's because he is the best we have, and consistently has the output.

And most importantly, he plays round 12 and is in my supercoach team. So fuck right off with that bs!
His been in my team every year since 2012... Most consistent mofo out there for years but tbh, its time to go. Reality is no coach is going to come here when your 3 highest paid players and counting are a no impact workhorse prop, a busted backrower and a porcelain half. These guys got my respect but if we want to move forward its time to clear the decks, no matter the cost. I hate saying it but its the reality of it unless your enjoying Pay's coaching.
 

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Tolman on bench for first 15-20. Play out the rest off the match once coming on.
Need Ogden to start as we aren't a good enough side to try chase points when losing the ruck early on. We need to bend the line and win the early battle, you can generally watch a Dogs game and tell wether we are going to win or lose in the first 5-10mins... this needs to change.
 

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Tolman on bench for first 15-20. Play out the rest off the match once coming on.
Need Ogden to start as we aren't a good enough side to try chase points when losing the ruck early on. We need to bend the line and win the early battle, you can generally watch a Dogs game and tell wether we are going to win or lose in the first 5-10mins... this needs to change.
From kick-off actually
 

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He played somewhere near to 70min if i'm not mistaken once this yr... His got it in him. Bloke is a leader..
not a lot of difference between the two, except Tolman has a better work rate in defence

Napa

rd1. 43mins 78m 22 tackles (4 missed) 0 errors
rd2. 52mins 182m 23 tackles (4 missed) 0 errors
rd3. 52mins 116m 31 tackles (2 missed) 0 errors
rd4. 16mins 20m 11 tackles (4 missed) 0 errors
rd8. 37mins 104m 24 tackles (1 missed) 0 errors
rd9. 51mins 185m 19 tackles (4 missed) 2 errors

Tolman
rd1. 52mins 158m 36 tackles (1 missed) 0 errors
rd2. 48mins 154m 25 tackles (0 missed) 0 errors
rd3. 55mins 128m 40 tackles (2 missed) 0 errors
rd4. 74mins 159m 47 tackles (2 missed) 0 errors
rd8. 50mins 99m 36 tackles (1 missed) 1 error
rd9. 65mins 148m 38 tackles (2 missed) 1 error
 

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Don't drop him just give Ogden some of his minutes
 

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not a lot of difference between the two, except Tolman has a better work rate in defence

Napa

rd1. 43mins 78m 22 tackles (4 missed) 0 errors
rd2. 52mins 182m 23 tackles (4 missed) 0 errors
rd3. 52mins 116m 31 tackles (2 missed) 0 errors
rd4. 16mins 20m 11 tackles (4 missed) 0 errors
rd8. 37mins 104m 24 tackles (1 missed) 0 errors
rd9. 51mins 185m 19 tackles (4 missed) 2 errors

Tolman
rd1. 52mins 158m 36 tackles (1 missed) 0 errors
rd2. 48mins 154m 25 tackles (0 missed) 0 errors
rd3. 55mins 128m 40 tackles (2 missed) 0 errors
rd4. 74mins 159m 47 tackles (2 missed) 0 errors
rd8. 50mins 99m 36 tackles (1 missed) 1 error
rd9. 65mins 148m 38 tackles (2 missed) 1 error
Defended Tolman for a long time whilst being shat on by many... I know what Tolman is all about and would preferably be my capatain but I'm done. For as long as his here his still one of my props but I wouldn't be disappointed if the money his on goes elsewhere.
 

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When your team isnt firing everyone starts looking poor.. the same players that are in the roosters team now looked terrible in 2016..
 

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I don't see Tolman pushing teammates out of the way to do all the tackling and supporting the few breaks we make. Unfortunately he is the only one with Jackson the other little midget forward who puts up their hands to do some work. What we need is more forwards willing to put their hand up and do more than just look good with the occasional big hit or line break and then sit back for 10 mins before trying again.
 
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