Never said he wasn't a great manager. He is. But history doesn't lie, with Dortmund he *almost* won the Champions League. He *almost* won the Europa league with Liverpool. He *almost* won an FA Cup (knocked out by Aston Villa in the semis who then got walloped by Arsenal in the Final). He *almost* won a CL with Liverpool. And he'll *almost* win the Premier League this season. Liverpool have improved so much, but they still cannot get over the hump in their peak, and I'd be worried as a Liverpool fan. Not winning anything, despite playing as well as they are, is still underachieving. They brought Klopp to win trophies, and almost winning them does not count.