Double Movement

[Trafford10]

To me it was a try.

 

[GrogDog]

Double movement for me

 

[The DoggFather]

Is it still momentum if he lifts his elbow to reach the try line? Or is momentum keeping your elbow down and sliding over the line?

Anyone know the actually ruling on this?

 

[ash160]

...short

 

[Raikkonen]

It was a try, and missed tackles lost the game.

 

[bells76]

Yes but ball did not slide across it was promoted ball was short and his elbow and ball hit the ground short then he lifted his elbow up and reached over the line.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[steeliz]

Attenpted double movement because he didn't actually ground the ball.

Each way bet by the refs to keep Canberra in contention for the Top 8

 

[Wolfmother]

Raiders 2nd last try was a double movement every day of the week. He still had defenders on him and you can not promote the ball and he did, bunker is shit!

did he stop ?

 

[dogluva]

If ref had called "no try" it may have been disallowed by the bunker, but it was on the line, and his body was in motion - ref called "try"; and bunker didn't have enough evidence to turn the call around.

Was that the one where Atkins actually stood there for about thirty seconds deciding whether to say try or no try??

 

[dogluva]

Is it still momentum if he lifts his elbow to reach the try line? Or is momentum keeping your elbow down and sliding over the line?

Anyone know the actually ruling on this?

For what it is worth this is what the rule book says but as we all know the NRL never lets anything get in the way of a good story.....

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2018.pdf


Double Movement A try will be awarded if: ‘a tackled player’s momentum carries him into the opponents’ in-goal where he grounds the ball even if the ball has first touched the ground in the field of play’.
Section 6 (3) (c) In the process of scoring a try a player in possession must not promote the ball from the position the ball has been grounded. If the momentum of the player in possession carries him into the opponents in goal area, it will not be a double movement if the ball would have finished over the goal line regardless of any subsequent movement of the ball or the arm carrying the ball.

 

[The DoggFather]

For what it is worth this is what the rule book says but as we all know the NRL never lets anything get in the way of a good story.....

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2018.pdf


Double Movement A try will be awarded if: ‘a tackled player’s momentum carries him into the opponents’ in-goal where he grounds the ball even if the ball has first touched the ground in the field of play’.
Section 6 (3) (c) In the process of scoring a try a player in possession must not promote the ball from the position the ball has been grounded. If the momentum of the player in possession carries him into the opponents in goal area, it will not be a double movement if the ball would have finished over the goal line regardless of any subsequent movement of the ball or the arm carrying the ball.

If I understood correctly, going by the letter of the law, wouldn't lifting the ball carrying elbow deem it a no try?

OR is it a grey area on purpose to assist the refs rigging results?

 

[dogluva]

If I understood correctly, going by the letter of the law, wouldn't lifting the ball carrying elbow deem it a no try?

OR is it a grey area on purpose to assist the refs rigging results?

This is exactly why the rule book needs to be written without the ability to INTERPRET it needs to be cut and dried.

 

[The DoggFather]

This is exactly why the rule book needs to be written without the ability to INTERPRET it needs to be cut and dried.

It's funny, previously I would of been called a conspiracy theorist, recently, more and more people are asking the same questions and waking up to the clear rorting or "manipulation" of results.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

If I understood correctly, going by the letter of the law, wouldn't lifting the ball carrying elbow deem it a no try?

OR is it a grey area on purpose to assist the refs rigging results?

Nah. It states "Must not promote the ball from the position the ball has been grounded". This means if your arm extends forward then you're promoting the ball forward. If your arm doesn't move forward but your body moves forward by momentum then you're not promoting it.

Basically put, if you make any movement to make the ball go forward after it's grounded (and you have a player on you) then it's a double movement. If you travel forward by momentum or the opposition player drags you into goals then it doesn't matter if you lifted the football or not, it's still a try.

This was definitely a try by the rules. But even if it wasn't a try, we shouldn't have lost. The problem here was bad reffing or even bad luck, it was just that we panicked and we lost.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

No grey area here unfortunately. Promoting the ball means you need to physically move the ball forward. That said, there is definitely corruption in the NRL. It's just that it didn't show itself in this game. Probably 'cause neither team was worth betting on.

 

[Wahesh]

Raiders 2nd last try was a double movement every day of the week. He still had defenders on him and you can not promote the ball and he did, bunker is shit!

Momentum didn't stop, it was a fair try. Don't be a sore loser. The better team won. We played for 78 minutes. The Raiders played for 80 minutes.

 

[The DoggFather]

Nah. It states "Must not promote the ball from the position the ball has been grounded". This means if your arm extends forward then you're promoting the ball forward. If your arm doesn't move forward but your body moves forward by momentum then you're not promoting it.

Basically put, if you make any movement to make the ball go forward after it's grounded (and you have a player on you) then it's a double movement. If you travel forward by momentum or the opposition player drags you into goals then it doesn't matter if you lifted the football or not, it's still a try.

This was definitely a try by the rules. But even if it wasn't a try, we shouldn't have lost. The problem here was bad reffing or even bad luck, it was just that we panicked and we lost.

Na, im not letting them off the hook for buckling and losing the near unlosable.

I just genuinely wanted to know how the nrl rig, I mean rule it.

 

[Novdoggie]

Cop it sweet. Try. Shouldn't have been in that position anyway. Need to learn how to close out a game which will come with experience.

 

[Shanked]

thread needs a negative rating

 

[Haslerhasworms]

The NRL and Greenturd need to look at pretty much everything regarding the "rules".
Double movement ruling against tits yesterday was puzzling as well.
Can anyone remember the last time the ref pulled up a DELIBERATE forward pass?
That's still a rule, isn't it?
I used to love the game of rugby league but it is beyond a joke now. If not for the doggies, I would have given up following he game a long time ago.