Pay Free Pass 2018?

What indicates unacceptable performance by Pay as head coach in 2018?

  • Free pass, wooden spoon OK

    Votes: 10 11.9%
  • Wooden spoon not OK, should be replaced

    Votes: 7 8.3%
  • Bottom 4 not OK, should be replaced

    Votes: 8 9.5%
  • Bottom 4 OK, so long as game Managment & player development improves

    Votes: 59 70.2%

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CrittaMagic69

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Whats laughable is you acting like you have never blamed a ref for a loss... Stop while your ahead champ.
Yh we're missing 4 wins because of the refs, has absolutely nothing to do with Pay's poor tactics, poor bench rotations, poor game management, lack of opportunities created, etc. All teams get shit calls, fans just act like there clubs get a shit deal all the time.
 

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I'd take

You have a PRO opinion about Pay but anyone who disgarees is basically being abused by you ... IF we weren't sitting near dead last maybe your argument would have some substance. He has a squad of late ex internationals and state of origin players, we should not be sitting so close to last place Parramatta.
I am not Pro Pay however I'm not on here whinging and carrying on like many who are clearly prejudiced in the way they think and who can't hit the pause button and assess the predicament that the club is in. We have lost a host of games by less that 6 points. We copped bad decisions in the 78th minute in both the South's and Broncos games when we should have won. We played poorly v Canberra and have beaten the team coming equal first. If the last pass sticks v Storm in Perth we are 24 - 22 with a kick to come. Abbo Carr intercepts and runs the length of the field to win. V Rorters game one Faulolo gets ball stripped when we should have scored to stay in the contest. That is what I see.

You hit the nail on the head....ex international's with 2 of them over 31 and one busted. One playing poorly.

Does Pay deserve to be be called a **** like some call him. Dies he deserve the flack? No he doesn't. If he fails in 2 or 3 years then I will pass judgment.

As for Des....you can all call him what you like. He deserves it.
 

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Not pays fault. Take penalty goals out of the NRL and we win atleast 4 of those games.
 

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Really? They came out firing and put 2 tries on us... We battled back into the game and stunned them. Once again if the refs didn't step in to help the opposition we would have won.
HAHAHAHA “they came out firing” ... they went through us due to one on one missed tackles and poor defensive reads, they didn’t do anything spectacular. There was nothing “came out firing” about the dragons. The referees helped us as much as they helped the dragons and we as fans need to stop blaming referees every time we lose a game. We need to take more ownership. That starts with Pay at the moment.
 

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HAHAHAHA “they came out firing” ... they went through us due to one on one missed tackles and poor defensive reads, they didn’t do anything spectacular. There was nothing “came out firing” about the dragons. The referees helped us as much as they helped the dragons and we as fans need to stop blaming referees every time we lose a game. We need to take more ownership. That starts with Pay at the moment.
Remember how we got a penalty when Jackson was clearly interfering with the ruck? If that situation was reversed there would be a whole thread on it with people carrying on and saying how much of a game changer it was hahaha
 

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Jackson also has the most try assists for us this year hahahaha
Honestly he legit has one of the best chips in our team, need to throw the ball to him on the 5th every now and then and see if it's all a fluke or if he does have an accurate chip. Could get us a lot of repeat sets and tries. If he sucks just stop doing it lol, but everytime he puts a chip in I'm more confident than if Hoppa or Mbye or Frawley does it
 

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Not pays fault. Take penalty goals out of the NRL and we win atleast 4 of those games.
Can't say that.. we were in half those games due to our penalty goals.

I'll refer more towards momentum killers, points against and potential point scoring opportunities such as Sakho's knock on and getting penalised for dragging Dufty back yesterday. These change the whole landscape of the game and even resulted to us losing the game
 

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HAHAHAHA “they came out firing” ... they went through us due to one on one missed tackles and poor defensive reads, they didn’t do anything spectacular. There was nothing “came out firing” about the dragons. The referees helped us as much as they helped the dragons and we as fans need to stop blaming referees every time we lose a game. We need to take more ownership. That starts with Pay at the moment.
2 tries to nil isn't good enough for you huh?? Maybe teams should score 3 times to acknowledged as a good start LMAO!

Sack a coach 15 games into a rabble of a season... I think u need to sack yourself with that attitude.
 

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Remember how we got a penalty when Jackson was clearly interfering with the ruck? If that situation was reversed there would be a whole thread on it with people carrying on and saying how much of a game changer it was hahaha
Are you saying Mcinnes didn't intentionally pass the ball into him??
 

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Are you saying Mcinnes didn't intentionally pass the ball into him??
Jackson was cleary in the way and made absolutely no effort to get out of the way, should have been a clear penalty against us. This is nothing like the Milford and Luke instances where they throw the ball no where near the receiver.
 

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Do0pn't know if he should get the sack or not but IMO Pay has been bog average.

My biggest worry is he gets HIS team and they end up being bog average still. Then the next coach has to come in and clean up again.
 

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Jackson was cleary in the way and made absolutely no effort to get out of the way, should have been a clear penalty against us. This is nothing like the Milford and Luke instances where they throw the ball no where near the receiver.
So your saying Mcinnes didn't intentionally pass it into Jackson...
 

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So your saying Mcinnes didn't intentionally pass it into Jackson...
Haha fucking hell, you're actually trying to argue this was the right call. Absolutely amazing.
 

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Ivan Cleary, an experienced coach, had almost a full season with the Tigers before this year. He was able to do a fair bit if recruiting to start to build a team he wants. They started well but now struggling. I cant see them making the finals. They have done reasonably well and should end up a bit better than last season. I think this shows the time it takes to turn things around. Dean Pay needs a few seasons to be fairly judged. We lack quality in the spine. Forwards our best asset atm. Backs fairly ordinary apart from the Morris's. He cant bring in players from outside the top 30 so he is restricted in he who can use from ISP. Salary cap issues means we cant be chasing top line players. We need to start with young up and comers who cant get a start at their own clubs, eg Cogger, or players from our own lower grades. I hope we can avoid the wooden spoon. Anything higher would be a plus. We have played well in most games getting beat by a few points by top sides.
 

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Haha fucking hell, you're actually trying to argue this was the right call. Absolutely amazing.
Could have gone either way BUT considering the NRL has JUST CHANGED the rule you would be stupid to INTENTIONALLY pass the ball into a player anywhere near the ruck. Could he have passed the ball without hitting Jackson, YES. Didn't he intentionally pass it into him, YES. So you would be silly to argue the call.
 
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Could have gone either way and considering the NRL has JUST CHANGED the rule you would be stupid to INTENTIONALLY pass the ball into a player anywhere near the ruck. Could he have passed the ball without hitting Jackson, YES. Didn't he intentionally pass it into him, YES. So why is it the wrong call again??
Absolutely ridiculous. Jackson was clearly in an offside position and influenced the play, it's a penalty. Why the fuck should a hooker have to go out of his way to get around a player that shouldn't have been there? Mcinnes wastes an extra second trying to pass around Jackson and Hunt is gets tackled on thr last by rushing defence or gets a shit kick away because od the pressure.

The fact that you want to argue this shows how full of bullshit you actually are. Crying about the refs like a little fucking bitch after every game. Just laughable. No wonder other fans hate our fans the most.
 

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His selections concern me alot. When you keep picking Montoya in the side, Clay Priest over and over, Holland on the bench.

This year is over, next year can't also be an experiment, he needs to try things this year, but not stupid things like he's been doing.
 
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