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How did the club turn the 2008 wooden spooners into minor premiers in 1 year? We should have been minor premiers,the NRL were wrong when we were deducted 2pts for that minor interchange violation.
Coaching and squad changes, playing style, player's fitness, rule changes, off field club problems and participation in representative teams are all important facts to help draw a conclusion. A comparison with representative teams is a quick way to evaluate the squad's level and standard.

The coach:
Steve Folkes retired and Kevin Moore took over in 2009.To definitively conclude whether the new coach had an extraordinary impact,playing styles need to be evaluated,unless squad changes can provide the answer.

The squad:

Players retained for 2009 (bold = regular 1st team members):

Chris Arnit; Ben Barba; Hazem El Masri; Jarrad Hickey; Daniel Holdsworth; Jamal Idris; John Kite;
Charlie Leaeno; Daryl Millard; Brad Morrin; Luke Patten; Ben Roberts; Andrew Ryan;
Michael Sullivan; Lee Te Maari; Matt Utai; Gary Warburton; Tim Winitana;
Heka Nanai
(missed whole of 2009); Danny Williams (missed whole of 2009);

Players signed for 2009:

Greg Eastwood (Brisbane); Michael Ennis (Brisbane); Bryson Goodwin (Cronulla); Yileen Gordon (Souths); Ben Hannant (Brisbane); Michael Hodgson (Titans); Brett Kimmorley (Cronulla);
Josh Morris (St. George); David Stagg (Brisbane);

Regular 1st team selected players not retained for 2009:
1st number denotes games played for Bulldogs;2nd number games played 2008.

Fred Briggs (released) 17; 10; Corey Hughes (Cronulla) 213; 22; Nick Kouparitsas (Easts) 34; 13;
Reni Maitua (Cronulla) 100; 14; Willie Tonga (Nth Q'land) 81; 7; Sonny Bill Williams (Union) 73; 11;

Squad players not retained for 2009 (bold = signed by other clubs):
1st number denotes games played for Bulldogs;2nd number games played 2008.

Reece Blaney (released) 2; 2; Kane Cleal (released) 19; 4; Brent Crisp (released) 7; 7;
Andrew Emelio (Penrith) 21; 2; Aaron Groom (Super League) 6; 6; Lorenzo Ma'afu (released) 2; 2; Cameron Phelps (Super League); Arana Taumata (Nth Q'land) 5; 5; Justin Tsoulos (released) 5; 5;
Joe Williams (released) 2; 2; Frank Winterstein (Super League) 5; 5;
Nick Youngquest
(Super League) 4; 4;

Summary:

Players retained for 2009...............................: 20 (10 regular 1st team members; 10 squad members)
Players signed for 2009..................................: 9 (All players were regular 1st team members)
Regular 1st team selected players not retained: 6
Squad players not retained.............................: 12

Good contractual management and recruitment enabled the club to climb from last to 1st.
The above numbers paint a clear picture and no further facts are required.
After releasing 6 regular 1st team and 12 squad members the size of the squad was reduced from 38 to 29.The club went on a huge rebuilding spree signing 9 established 1st grade quality players to compliment the 10 that were already in the team.
That should give us hope! I'm a man of law and I recognize a precedent. Grahams's $500k will also be available next year and the salary cap should increase by at least $700k.

These are the players off contract (bold = good chance of releasing):

1st team selected players: Greg Eastwood; Jeremy Marshall-King; Brett Morris; Josh Morris;
Squad members..............:Lachlan Burr; Tom Carr; Mason Cerruto; Josh Cleeland; Asipeli Fine; Matt Frawley; Lachlan Lewis; Rhyse Martin; Clay Priest; Zac Woolford;

But can the club achieve what they did in 2009?
Even if we're as tight as a fish's arse and only use Graham's money to resign and upgrade our young guns.Steal a few of uncle Nick's brown paper bags (he's upgraded to environmental friendly now),clean Frawley up,and work him on Canterbury Road, run a few chuck raffles,buy Woods a ukulele and send him basking, join the Hari Krishna and grow some weed, bribe Greenberg with a transvestite to smuggle in a mil on top of our 2019 cap, the club would not get close to what they did in 2009.
It wouldn't be of no surprise, if those long contracts Des finalized during his last few years at the club are back ended and will eat our salary cap increases for next year and beyond.
The triple D's, Dib 'the slime ball', Des 'the honker' and Dog face Raelene have farted and left us chocking in foul stench.But as Charlie Chaplin once said
"nothing is permanent in this wicked world not even our troubles".
 

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Difference between 2008/9 and now
Once mason sbw and maitua were gone we had no players on big money in our squad
I highly doubt general bobcat and elmasri were on anything above 300k at the time

We have atm foran woods klemmer jackson mbye tolman (unfortunately) who are signed long term on big money
There is no way we can replicate what happened in 09
 

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What a fuckin downer it is not being able to clean house and buy a heap of talent....
I was doin the math at the start of the year and was thinking we would have about 2mil to spend once we move the off contracted players on......
This is fucked beyond belief
 

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Difference between 2008/9 and now
Once mason sbw and maitua were gone we had no players on big money in our squad
I highly doubt general bobcat and elmasri were on anything above 300k at the time

We have atm foran woods klemmer jackson mbye tolman (unfortunately) who are signed long term on big money
There is no way we can replicate what happened in 09
In 2008 the Salary cap was $4m with a min wage of $55k.
In 2007 we lost Mason,O'Meiley and Sherwin.
In 2008 we signed 12 players on min wage of $55k/each, 3 bench players/low games for $65k/each, Idris was slightly higher for $70k.

Using the same % of salary cap as in 2018,a good prop/2nd row is valued $800k/$9.1m = 8.79% Mason & O'Meiley both signed 3y contract in 2005 ($3.664m x 8.79% = $322k).
In 2004 Sherwin signed 4 yr contact using % of 2018 salary cap $800k/$9.1m = 8.79% (3.3m x 8.79% = $290k).Tonga & Matua signed 5y contracts $700k/$9.1m=7.69% (3.3 x 7.69%= $253).

Salary cap calculation :
Mason+O'Meiley+ Sherwin $322k x 2 + $290k..............................= $ 934k .......Fred Briggs & Nick Kouparitsas $65k/each...= $.130k.......Hazem El Masri $225k Andrew Ryan $250K = $475k
12 players at $55k/each + 3 bench players $65k/each + idris $70k = $ 925k.......Corey Hughes (same as Sherwin) $290k......= $.290k........Luke Patten $175k Ben Roberts $165k........= $340k
Money not spent in 2008..............................................................= $.....9k.......Willie Tonga & Reni Maitua $253k/each........= $.506k.......Gary Warburton & Jamal Idris $70k/each.....= $140k
plus Salary cap increase 2009.......................................................= $ 100k.......Sonny Bill Williams (had to pay Dogs $750k).= $.750k........4 benchplayers $65k/each..........................= $260k
money leftover from 2008 + increase in cap..................................= $.109k.......12 players at $55k/each...............................= $.660k........8 players at $55k/each...............................= $440k
total money from players not signed end 2008..............................= $2336k
.....total money from players not signed end 2008.=$2336k........Total for existing 2009 contracts.................=$1655k
Available Total to spend for 2009..........................................= $2445k
Total of existing 2009 contracts....................................................= $1655k....Salary cap in 2009 was $4.1m, $2.445m available is 59.63% ($2.445m/$4.1) of total cap. Assuming the
Salary cap for 2009......................................................................= $4100k....Salary cap in 2019 increases to $9.8m,$2.445m in 2009 is equal to $5.84m ($9.8m x 59.63%) in 2019. lol

The big difference wasn't money from Mason, O'Meiley and Sherwin because we signed 16 players with that money and only had $9k left (see column 1).
It was Sonny Bill Williams's contract worth $750k,the clearing of 12 players on min wage for a total of $660k, plus money from 2 bench players total value $130k for a grand total of $1540k that gave us the cash (see column 2). Otherwise it would have left us with $796k + $100k (salary cap increase) + money not spent $9k = for a total of $905k.If you take Sonny Bill William's money out,the available money would be $1695k that's 1695/4100 = 41%,expand it to 2019 money that's $4.018m.So apart from Sonny Bill William, by getting rid of 12 min wage + 2 bench players + Hughes + Tonga + Maitua we had enough money to sign at least 7 players out of 9.We trimmed the squad down from 38 to 27 exchanging quality for quantity.We started planning it in 2007 by clearing the big money contracts and executed it in 2009 .I hope the above figures help to clarify things.
 

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No we cant replicate 2009 but the basic lessons are still there. I think the most important signings at this time where Brett Kimmorley and Michael Ennis - halfback and hooker respectively. We need to be patient, it will probably take a few years. We need to shed players as they come off contract until we can afford a quality half and hooker.
 

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From what I gather reading other posts on here, people keep missing the point that many of the contracts of our current players have a clause which means their salary increases relative to the salary cap increases, so extra money in the cap is eaten up by these clauses and not by new signings. This wouldn't be affected by contracts expiring like Grahams, but that extra 700K in the cap increase may as well not even be there.
 

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In 2008 the Salary cap was $4m with a min wage of $55k.
In 2007 we lost Mason,O'Meiley and Sherwin.
In 2008 we signed 12 players on min wage of $55k/each, 3 bench players/low games for $65k/each, Idris was slightly higher for $70k.

Using the same % of salary cap as in 2018,a good prop/2nd row is valued $800k/$9.1m = 8.79% Mason & O'Meiley both signed 3y contract in 2005 ($3.664m x 8.79% = $322k).
In 2004 Sherwin signed 4 yr contact using % of 2018 salary cap $800k/$9.1m = 8.79% (3.3m x 8.79% = $290k).Tonga & Matua signed 5y contracts $700k/$9.1m=7.69% (3.3 x 7.69%= $253).

Salary cap calculation :
Mason+O'Meiley+ Sherwin $322k x 2 + $290k..............................= $ 934k .......Fred Briggs & Nick Kouparitsas $65k/each...= $.130k.......Hazem El Masri $225k Andrew Ryan $250K = $475k
12 players at $55k/each + 3 bench players $65k/each + idris $70k = $ 925k.......Corey Hughes (same as Sherwin) $290k......= $.290k........Luke Patten $175k Ben Roberts $165k........= $340k
Money not spent in 2008..............................................................= $.....9k.......Willie Tonga & Reni Maitua $253k/each........= $.506k.......Gary Warburton & Jamal Idris $70k/each.....= $140k
plus Salary cap increase 2009.......................................................= $ 100k.......Sonny Bill Williams (had to pay Dogs $750k).= $.750k........4 benchplayers $65k/each..........................= $260k
money leftover from 2008 + increase in cap..................................= $.109k.......12 players at $55k/each...............................= $.660k........8 players at $55k/each...............................= $440k
total money from players not signed end 2008..............................= $2336k
.....total money from players not signed end 2008.=$2336k........Total for existing 2009 contracts.................=$1655k
Available Total to spend for 2009..........................................= $2445k
Total of existing 2009 contracts....................................................= $1655k....Salary cap in 2009 was $4.1m, $2.445m available is 59.63% ($2.445m/$4.1) of total cap. Assuming the
Salary cap for 2009......................................................................= $4100k....Salary cap in 2019 increases to $9.8m,$2.445m in 2009 is equal to $5.84m ($9.8m x 59.63%) in 2019. lol

The big difference wasn't money from Mason, O'Meiley and Sherwin because we signed 16 players with that money and only had $9k left (see column 1).
It was Sonny Bill Williams's contract worth $750k,the clearing of 12 players on min wage for a total of $660k, plus money from 2 bench players total value $130k for a grand total of $1540k that gave us the cash (see column 2). Otherwise it would have left us with $796k + $100k (salary cap increase) + money not spent $9k = for a total of $905k.If you take Sonny Bill William's money out,the available money would be $1695k that's 1695/4100 = 41%,expand it to 2019 money that's $4.018m.So apart from Sonny Bill William, by getting rid of 12 min wage + 2 bench players + Hughes + Tonga + Maitua we had enough money to sign at least 7 players out of 9.We trimmed the squad down from 38 to 27 exchanging quality for quantity.We started planning it in 2007 by clearing the big money contracts and executed it in 2009 .I hope the above figures help to clarify things.
Wow. You really have a lot of time on your hands. Lol
 

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I still cant comprehend how we ended up with all these back ended deals when we had no rock star fullback, no rocks star halves, no rock star hooker, who the fuck we spent all the cap on? and not only that we spent the future cap as well? its not like we had origin and Australian reps playing across every position from 2013 -2017 that we had to do back ended deals to keep them.

I always thought we had left over money in the cap every year as we were waiting for our rockstar fullback and halves.
 

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In 2008 the Salary cap was $4m with a min wage of $55k.
In 2007 we lost Mason,O'Meiley and Sherwin.
In 2008 we signed 12 players on min wage of $55k/each, 3 bench players/low games for $65k/each, Idris was slightly higher for $70k.

Using the same % of salary cap as in 2018,a good prop/2nd row is valued $800k/$9.1m = 8.79% Mason & O'Meiley both signed 3y contract in 2005 ($3.664m x 8.79% = $322k).
In 2004 Sherwin signed 4 yr contact using % of 2018 salary cap $800k/$9.1m = 8.79% (3.3m x 8.79% = $290k).Tonga & Matua signed 5y contracts $700k/$9.1m=7.69% (3.3 x 7.69%= $253).

Salary cap calculation :
Mason+O'Meiley+ Sherwin $322k x 2 + $290k..............................= $ 934k .......Fred Briggs & Nick Kouparitsas $65k/each...= $.130k.......Hazem El Masri $225k Andrew Ryan $250K = $475k
12 players at $55k/each + 3 bench players $65k/each + idris $70k = $ 925k.......Corey Hughes (same as Sherwin) $290k......= $.290k........Luke Patten $175k Ben Roberts $165k........= $340k
Money not spent in 2008..............................................................= $.....9k.......Willie Tonga & Reni Maitua $253k/each........= $.506k.......Gary Warburton & Jamal Idris $70k/each.....= $140k
plus Salary cap increase 2009.......................................................= $ 100k.......Sonny Bill Williams (had to pay Dogs $750k).= $.750k........4 benchplayers $65k/each..........................= $260k
money leftover from 2008 + increase in cap..................................= $.109k.......12 players at $55k/each...............................= $.660k........8 players at $55k/each...............................= $440k
total money from players not signed end 2008..............................= $2336k
.....total money from players not signed end 2008.=$2336k........Total for existing 2009 contracts.................=$1655k
Available Total to spend for 2009..........................................= $2445k
Total of existing 2009 contracts....................................................= $1655k....Salary cap in 2009 was $4.1m, $2.445m available is 59.63% ($2.445m/$4.1) of total cap. Assuming the
Salary cap for 2009......................................................................= $4100k....Salary cap in 2019 increases to $9.8m,$2.445m in 2009 is equal to $5.84m ($9.8m x 59.63%) in 2019. lol

The big difference wasn't money from Mason, O'Meiley and Sherwin because we signed 16 players with that money and only had $9k left (see column 1).
It was Sonny Bill Williams's contract worth $750k,the clearing of 12 players on min wage for a total of $660k, plus money from 2 bench players total value $130k for a grand total of $1540k that gave us the cash (see column 2). Otherwise it would have left us with $796k + $100k (salary cap increase) + money not spent $9k = for a total of $905k.If you take Sonny Bill William's money out,the available money would be $1695k that's 1695/4100 = 41%,expand it to 2019 money that's $4.018m.So apart from Sonny Bill William, by getting rid of 12 min wage + 2 bench players + Hughes + Tonga + Maitua we had enough money to sign at least 7 players out of 9.We trimmed the squad down from 38 to 27 exchanging quality for quantity.We started planning it in 2007 by clearing the big money contracts and executed it in 2009 .I hope the above figures help to clarify things.
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I think the biggest difference between 08 and 09 was attitude.
The new recruits brought a new attitude and reinvigorated a team that had quite a few low moments in the years previous.
 

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I think the biggest difference between 08 and 09 was attitude.
The new recruits brought a new attitude and reinvigorated a team that had quite a few low moments in the years previous.
I agree mate, attitude and competitiveness.

That's what people didn't see when we lost Ennis, Graham and JR. Although not everyone's cup of tea, these three have that trait of doing everything possible to win.
 

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I agree mate, attitude and competitiveness.

That's what people didn't see when we lost Ennis, Graham and JR. Although not everyone's cup of tea, these three have that trait of doing everything possible to win.
Spot on. You don’t see Jackson yelling and screaming at the players on or before taking the field like Ennis or Graham did! Jackson says it himself, that he leads by example. He needs to fire the fk up and make them accountable.
 
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I see you failed kindergarten and simple arithmetic or algebra confuses you.
Did you run out out of fingers and toes?
Too busy chasing boys were we?
But I'm glad because a man only becomes wise when he begins to calculate the approximate the depth of another's ignorance.
Never mind you wouldn't have a clue about informal logic anyway.
 

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No we cant replicate 2009 but the basic lessons are still there. I think the most important signings at this time where Brett Kimmorley and Michael Ennis - halfback and hooker respectively. We need to be patient, it will probably take a few years. We need to shed players as they come off contract until we can afford a quality half and hooker.
We could have easily done it as we would have ended up with $5000k to spend.

With Mason's O'Meiley's and Sherwin's money,they invested it into 12 minimum wage players (on 1 year contract) + 3 bench players/+ Idris (on 2 year contracts).
End 2009 squad was cut by 12 minimum wage players ($55K X 12) + 2 Bench players ($65k x2) + Hughes ($290k) +Tonga and Matua ($506k) + salary cap increase $100k.
Simple maths that gave them $1686 add SBW who was $750 =$2.436k that's $2436/$4100 salary cap = 59%

If they did the same,sign all lower grade players on min wage ($100k) + 2 bench players ($150k) on 1 year deal instead of 2years.
In 2019 we could have got rid of 12 min wage and keep best ($100k x 12) + 2 bench players ($150k x2 ) + $1500k (Morris twins) + $800k (Eastwood).
That gives us $3800k + $500k (Graham) + $700k (Sal cap inc) = $5000k, that's $5000/$9800k salary cap = 51%. (it's darn close to 59%)

That's all that was needed,but these idiots signed too many unknown players for longer then 1 year.Easts,Manly,Brisbane and Storm been doing it for years.They clear unwanted min wage + bench players and a few 1st grade.Easts dumped 4 unto Knights this year.Manly got rid of 15 min wage players,was in the paper (goggle it).Every other team got high paid players,same as us,but we are idiots tied ISP and lower grades on long contracts.
 

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Long version:
How did the club turn the 2008 wooden spooners into minor premiers in 1 year? We should have been minor premiers,the NRL were wrong when we were deducted 2pts for that minor interchange violation.
Coaching and squad changes, playing style, player's fitness, rule changes, off field club problems and participation in representative teams are all important facts to help draw a conclusion. A comparison with representative teams is a quick way to evaluate the squad's level and standard.

The coach:
Steve Folkes retired and Kevin Moore took over in 2009.To definitively conclude whether the new coach had an extraordinary impact,playing styles need to be evaluated,unless squad changes can provide the answer.

The squad:

Players retained for 2009 (bold = regular 1st team members):

Chris Arnit; Ben Barba; Hazem El Masri; Jarrad Hickey; Daniel Holdsworth; Jamal Idris; John Kite;
Charlie Leaeno; Daryl Millard; Brad Morrin; Luke Patten; Ben Roberts; Andrew Ryan;
Michael Sullivan; Lee Te Maari; Matt Utai; Gary Warburton; Tim Winitana;
Heka Nanai (missed whole of 2009); Danny Williams (missed whole of 2009);

Players signed for 2009:

Greg Eastwood (Brisbane); Michael Ennis (Brisbane); Bryson Goodwin (Cronulla); Yileen Gordon (Souths); Ben Hannant (Brisbane); Michael Hodgson (Titans); Brett Kimmorley (Cronulla);
Josh Morris (St. George); David Stagg (Brisbane);

Regular 1st team selected players not retained for 2009:
1st number denotes games played for Bulldogs;2nd number games played 2008.

Fred Briggs (released) 17; 10; Corey Hughes (Cronulla) 213; 22; Nick Kouparitsas (Easts) 34; 13;
Reni Maitua (Cronulla) 100; 14; Willie Tonga (Nth Q'land) 81; 7; Sonny Bill Williams (Union) 73; 11;

Squad players not retained for 2009 (bold = signed by other clubs):
1st number denotes games played for Bulldogs;2nd number games played 2008.

Reece Blaney (released) 2; 2; Kane Cleal (released) 19; 4; Brent Crisp (released) 7; 7;
Andrew Emelio (Penrith) 21; 2; Aaron Groom (Super League) 6; 6; Lorenzo Ma'afu (released) 2; 2; Cameron Phelps (Super League); Arana Taumata (Nth Q'land) 5; 5; Justin Tsoulos (released) 5; 5;
Joe Williams (released) 2; 2; Frank Winterstein (Super League) 5; 5;
Nick Youngquest (Super League) 4; 4;

Summary:

Players retained for 2009...............................: 20 (10 regular 1st team members; 10 squad members)
Players signed for 2009..................................: 9 (All players were regular 1st team members)
Regular 1st team selected players not retained: 6
Squad players not retained.............................: 12

Good contractual management and recruitment enabled the club to climb from last to 1st.
The above numbers paint a clear picture and no further facts are required.
After releasing 6 regular 1st team and 12 squad members the size of the squad was reduced from 38 to 29.The club went on a huge rebuilding spree signing 9 established 1st grade quality players to compliment the 10 that were already in the team.
That should give us hope! I'm a man of law and I recognize a precedent. Grahams's $500k will also be available next year and the salary cap should increase by at least $700k.

These are the players off contract (bold = good chance of releasing):

1st team selected players: Greg Eastwood; Jeremy Marshall-King; Brett Morris; Josh Morris;
Squad members..............:Lachlan Burr; Tom Carr; Mason Cerruto; Josh Cleeland; Asipeli Fine; Matt Frawley; Lachlan Lewis; Rhyse Martin; Clay Priest; Zac Woolford;

But can the club achieve what they did in 2009?
Even if we're as tight as a fish's arse and only use Graham's money to resign and upgrade our young guns.Steal a few of uncle Nick's brown paper bags (he's upgraded to environmental friendly now),clean Frawley up,and work him on Canterbury Road, run a few chuck raffles,buy Woods a ukulele and send him basking, join the Hari Krishna and grow some weed, bribe Greenberg with a transvestite to smuggle in a mil on top of our 2019 cap, the club would not get close to what they did in 2009.
It wouldn't be of no surprise, if those long contracts Des finalized during his last few years at the club are back ended and will eat our salary cap increases for next year and beyond.
The triple D's, Dib 'the slime ball', Des 'the honker' and Dog face Raelene have farted and left us chocking in foul stench.But as Charlie Chaplin once said
"nothing is permanent in this wicked world not even our troubles".
Short version:
Des happened
 

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From what I gather reading other posts on here, people keep missing the point that many of the contracts of our current players have a clause which means their salary increases relative to the salary cap increases, so extra money in the cap is eaten up by these clauses and not by new signings. This wouldn't be affected by contracts expiring like Grahams, but that extra 700K in the cap increase may as well not even be there.
Mate the cap only goes up by $200k a year so if you cut that between say 5 top tier players its a $40k pay rise a year. It's not the problem - it's peanuts. Especially when you think that 3 of them are off contract this year.
 

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I see you failed kindergarten and simple arithmetic or algebra confuses you.
Did you run out out of fingers and toes?
Too busy chasing boys were we?
But I'm glad because a man only becomes wise when he begins to calculate the approximate the depth of another's ignorance.
Never mind you wouldn't have a clue about informal logic anyway.
Michael faraday also failed at school/ arithmetic/ algebra . It’s a bit rich when you talk about logic. Lol
 

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Michael faraday also failed at school/ arithmetic/ algebra . It’s a bit rich when you talk about logic. Lol
Faraday is 1 in 100 million and surely doesn't apply to you.Farraday is hailed as a genius and although he never received any formal education,he read heaps of scientific,philosophical and legal books and attended lectures conducted by Humphrey Davy,the best chemist of his time.Oxford university awarded him an honorary Doctorate in civil law.
In Philosophy that is called the 'Sweeping generalization fallacy' that leads to 'fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses' or 'false dichotomy'.Logic can be inductive or deductive and breaks down with logical fallacies.Rich when I use logic? I belong to the philosophy society of NSW,I have a Doctorate in philosophy and Theology,which I obtained before I was appointed to the bar.
On a serious note,because I'd rather this humor becomes productive and might help you in life.
Study the laws of logic and logical fallacies.Learn about Plato's approach to epistemology.
Socrates moral arguments and ethical traditions of thought,Aristotle's analysis of problem solving and Pythagoras's application of mathematics into logic.
Make sure you read about the argument between Heraclitus and Parmenides on ontology and metaphysics and pick a side.
Understand Confucius's relationships of society and family,Laozi's Daoism belief systems and Niccolo Machiavelli's writings on political science.
Once you got a basic understanding of classical philosophy,move to the 13th century work of Thomas Aquinas 'Disputed Questions on Truth'.
Move to modern 17th century western philosophy and Rene Descartes's revolutionary ideas of logic and the discovery of infinitesimal calculus and analysis.
Gottfried Leibniz's modern logic and analytic philosophy,Baruch Spinoza's modern conceptions of self and universe and rationalism and Voltaire's concepts of satirical polemicist.
Spend some time on 18th century David Hume and fully understand systems of philosophical empiricism,skepticism and naturalism and John Locke's explanation of consciousness,the mind,innate ideas,sense perception and introspection.Then progress to the 19th century Immanuel Kant's ideas on structure,human experience and reason.
Move to modern philosophy and understand George Hughes's introduction to Modal Logic and Vaughan Pratt's semantics of natural languages,reasoning and the behaviour of computer programs called Dynamic logic.
This accumulated knowledge will assist you to understand Gilles Deleuze's work on practical applications of the key concepts of metaphysics, ethics, aesthetics, and political philosophy.
Finally move to today's philosophers,Kwame Appiah,Alain Badiou,Simon Blackburn,Robert Brandom,Tyler Burge,Judith Butler,Nancy Cartwright and David Chalmers.
I don't know your age,whether you're interested or got time,nor do I know your ambition in life,but if you want to succeed,the above body of work is a guaranteed path to success.
Take your time don't put yourself under undue stress.I've seen broken criminals (it's an example,no suggestion you are) that have turned their life to become very wealthy businessmen.
Once your brain is able to understand logical arguments and deduce fallacies,it will change your whole outlook on life and trust me the sky the limit.
 

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Faraday is 1 in 100 million and surely doesn't apply to you.Farraday is hailed as a genius and although he never received any formal education,he read heaps of scientific,philosophical and legal books and attended lectures conducted by Humphrey Davy,the best chemist of his time.Oxford university awarded him an honorary Doctorate in civil law.
In Philosophy that is called the 'Sweeping generalization fallacy' that leads to 'fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses' or 'false dichotomy'.Logic can be inductive or deductive and breaks down with logical fallacies.Rich when I use logic? I belong to the philosophy society of NSW,I have a Doctorate in philosophy and Theology,which I obtained before I was appointed to the bar.
On a serious note,because I'd rather this humor becomes productive and might help you in life.
Study the laws of logic and logical fallacies.Learn about Plato's approach to epistemology.
Socrates moral arguments and ethical traditions of thought,Aristotle's analysis of problem solving and Pythagoras's application of mathematics into logic.
Make sure you read about the argument between Heraclitus and Parmenides on ontology and metaphysics and pick a side.
Understand Confucius's relationships of society and family,Laozi's Daoism belief systems and Niccolo Machiavelli's writings on political science.
Once you got a basic understanding of classical philosophy,move to the 13th century work of Thomas Aquinas 'Disputed Questions on Truth'.
Move to modern 17th century western philosophy and Rene Descartes's revolutionary ideas of logic and the discovery of infinitesimal calculus and analysis.
Gottfried Leibniz's modern logic and analytic philosophy,Baruch Spinoza's modern conceptions of self and universe and rationalism and Voltaire's concepts of satirical polemicist.
Spend some time on 18th century David Hume and fully understand systems of philosophical empiricism,skepticism and naturalism and John Locke's explanation of consciousness,the mind,innate ideas,sense perception and introspection.Then progress to the 19th century Immanuel Kant's ideas on structure,human experience and reason.
Move to modern philosophy and understand George Hughes's introduction to Modal Logic and Vaughan Pratt's semantics of natural languages,reasoning and the behaviour of computer programs called Dynamic logic.
This accumulated knowledge will assist you to understand Gilles Deleuze's work on practical applications of the key concepts of metaphysics, ethics, aesthetics, and political philosophy.
Finally move to today's philosophers,Kwame Appiah,Alain Badiou,Simon Blackburn,Robert Brandom,Tyler Burge,Judith Butler,Nancy Cartwright and David Chalmers.
I don't know your age,whether you're interested or got time,nor do I know your ambition in life,but if you want to succeed,the above body of work is a guaranteed path to success.
Take your time don't put yourself under undue stress.I've seen broken criminals (it's an example,no suggestion you are) that have turned their life to become very wealthy businessmen.
Once your brain is able to understand logical arguments and deduce fallacies,it will change your whole outlook on life and trust me the sky the limit.

tldr
 

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One single word sums this post up ! Answers all questions, and today’s word is..

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