Consolidated Leagues Club Board Election Thread (Coorey Chairman P29)

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People banging their saucepan that Peponis will destroy the club if he gets back in... please...

He's chaired the Leagues Club board since 2002. He's worked with other Bulldogs Football Club Boards, sat with multiple other Club Boards (including chairing NSWRL), and he knows his shit. He's a man of integrity, and loves the club and only holds it's bests interests at stake.

The reason for concern (and why he has acted to appoint 2 more directors now) is that previously the layout of Football Club board could be trusted with the balance of control. The current layout cannot, else they would not endorse people to the board who clearly cannot be trusted with money, based on passed discretions.

It's akin to giving a bank robber the keys to a bank vault and saying "please don't steal anything whilst we turn the cameras off and leave you alone overnight".

If people can't see this (and what we are heading towards if the Football Club Board get there way) then god help us.

Lets just hope the voting members saw this a mile away, and voted for stability over change, because one pro Football Club board member being elected swings them the balance of power on the board.



Eh? Michael Milton (our most successful winter paralympic in history) won our first ever Gold Medal for Australia in the 1992 Winter Paralympics for Alpine Skiing.


Dib isn't even standing for re election.


Why are people getting Dib and Peponis confused. The two are NOT technically linked.

Dib was appointed to the Leagues Club board via the Football Club. He was never a voted in member (by members), and has never had an integral role on the Leagues Club board.

When he lost his spot on Footbal Club board, he was removed from Leagues Club board as well (as the endorsement stops).

This is why Dib is not standing for re-election to the Leagues Club.
Hey if the facts aren’t on your side, just make them up :grinning: hhaha
 

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He's chaired the Leagues Club board since 2002. He's worked with other Bulldogs Football Club Boards, sat with multiple other Club Boards (including chairing NSWRL), and he knows his shit. He's a man of integrity, and loves the club and only holds it's bests interests at stake.

The reason for concern (and why he has acted to appoint 2 more directors now) is that previously the layout of Football Club board could be trusted with the balance of control. The current layout cannot, else they would not endorse people to the board who clearly cannot be trusted with money, based on passed discretions
so luckily we have peponis at the club who can decide who is trustworthy or not, his new title should be king of the bulldogs

king peponis
 

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People going on about Iemma being a Dragons supporter/member.

Marroun who the Football Club endorsed to the Leagues Club board is not only a Tigers supporter/member, but also a player sponsor for them.

I know it’s the leagues club. Why are they wanting to add extra people on the board? It’s never been done in our history. Why’s this clown trying to change it? And it’s only the most successful club around because people in the area are chronic gamblers. That has fuck all to do with any of the board members.
Previously they haven't needed to add additional people to the board, because the Football Club Board could be trusted with money, the assets, and the balance of power on Leagues Club board.

But when you (as a football club board) are:
- endorsing and giving board positions to people who have previously been bankrupt and been banned from junior games (and then lie and try to avoid answering why).
- promoting votes for someone who has been banned for life from trading as a motor dealer by DFT.
- promoting votes for someone who has previously cost the club $500,000 in fines, a compete season, and $5 million in legal fees, whilst making (reportedly) $1 million personally off the fiasco.
- endorsing someone who had knowledge of the salary cap rort and ignored it.

it creates genuine concern for not only your ability to govern a board properly, but how you will handle money/assets/balance of power in the future.

Not withstanding that last time some of the names associated and promoted by Football Club Board were at the club, they employed family into roles and paid them handsomely for it.

Peponis has made the call on this to make it harder for Football Club Board to gain a majority vote on the board by default.

As it stood, with 7 board members and 4 endorsed by Football Club, there was a 4 to 3 majority regardless of the election results.

With the new changes there is now 9 board members. 2 fixed, 4 endorsed, and 3 up for vote. That means currently there is only 4 majority. If the Football Club was to win majority voting rights, they would need to legitimately win 1/3 member elected positions on the board.

If the members decide "nope" and vote for say Arthur Coorey/Peponis/McMahon/Mortimer (and you'd have to assume Mortimer and Peponis have the numbers), then it becomes potentially a split board.

My understanding (and I am happy to stand corrected) is that the 2 directors appointed don't have voting rights per se on issues, and are more there for governance. However given the imbalance between 4 endorsed and 3 member elected votes, the appointed 2 directors can step in and vote accordingly to balance out a decision.

If that makes sense.
 

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Previously they haven't needed to add additional people to the board, because king peponis decided the Football Club Board could be trusted with money, the assets, and the balance of power on Leagues Club board
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Once again shows how ametuer lyn Anderson is,mouthing off in her statement they think it’s illegal what has been done when its not and she clearly doesnt know her stuff
If its not illegal, why did both parties choose to get legal advice/
 

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What it boils down to is Peponis not accepting the democratic voting result of the football club members and hijacking and manipulating for his own purposes the Leagues Club vote.

Not something to be admired....would expect it of Trump or Kim Wotisname but I guess this a high stakes power grabbing and no holds barred....very sad.

The Club and its reputation the loser once again. This will not blow over as reputations and egos have been sullied and bruised. It will be more ongoing rubbish till the next elections with all the parties agitating and back stabbing each other till the next elections. Neither will go quietly...Dr George has manipulated the true will of the members by his actions.

For one faction to succeed they have to bring down and trample the other and that can't be good for the Club.
 

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People going on about Iemma being a Dragons supporter/member.

Marroun who the Football Club endorsed to the Leagues Club board is not only a Tigers supporter/member, but also a player sponsor for them.


Previously they haven't needed to add additional people to the board, because the Football Club Board could be trusted with money, the assets, and the balance of power on Leagues Club board.

But when you (as a football club board) are:
- endorsing and giving board positions to people who have previously been bankrupt and been banned from junior games (and then lie and try to avoid answering why).
- promoting votes for someone who has been banned for life from trading as a motor dealer by DFT.
- promoting votes for someone who has previously cost the club $500,000 in fines, a compete season, and $5 million in legal fees, whilst making (reportedly) $1 million personally off the fiasco.
- endorsing someone who had knowledge of the salary cap rort and ignored it.

it creates genuine concern for not only your ability to govern a board properly, but how you will handle money/assets/balance of power in the future.

Not withstanding that last time some of the names associated and promoted by Football Club Board were at the club, they employed family into roles and paid them handsomely for it.

Peponis has made the call on this to make it harder for Football Club Board to gain a majority vote on the board by default.

As it stood, with 7 board members and 4 endorsed by Football Club, there was a 4 to 3 majority regardless of the election results.

With the new changes there is now 9 board members. 2 fixed, 4 endorsed, and 3 up for vote. That means currently there is only 4 majority. If the Football Club was to win majority voting rights, they would need to legitimately win 1/3 member elected positions on the board.

If the members decide "nope" and vote for say Arthur Coorey/Peponis/McMahon/Mortimer (and you'd have to assume Mortimer and Peponis have the numbers), then it becomes potentially a split board.

My understanding (and I am happy to stand corrected) is that the 2 directors appointed don't have voting rights per se on issues, and are more there for governance. However given the imbalance between 4 endorsed and 3 member elected votes, the appointed 2 directors can step in and vote accordingly to balance out a decision.

If that makes sense.
and lets not forget having to most probably pay up to a million for a coach who doesn't coach us any more, another million nearly for a couple of players who play against us now, wonder who is to blame for them?
 

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But seriously, from an outsider looking in, ie: not a leagues or football club member another couple of smart business heads overseeing how the money is spent can't hurt after what's happened recently
 

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For a brief summary and equivalent of this, it’s like one party winning an election but not having house majority. The club aren’t going to be able to do anything because they’re bootstrapped by the leagues club. At this point I’d rather peponis and dib have nothing to do with the club or leagues club in any capacity
 

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and lets not forget having to most probably pay up to a million for a coach who doesn't coach us any more, another million nearly for a couple of players who play against us now, wonder who is to blame for them?
Paying out a coach $2 million for a mistake (which hasn't happened yet mind you), is far cheaper than paying out $5.5 million for a salary cap breach + millions in lost sponsorship + reportedly a million in your own pocket in legal fees you charge the club for a problem you created yourself.

For a brief summary and equivalent of this, it’s like one party winning an election but not having house majority. The club aren’t going to be able to do anything because they’re bootstrapped by the leagues club. At this point I’d rather peponis and dib have nothing to do with the club or leagues club in any capacity
No, the perfect analogy for this is:

Being elected the Premier of (for example) NSW and then demanding control over the federal budget and any decision in federal government. Then trying to promote your own candidate as prime minister to challenge for leadership, knowing that if they get in it'll be for your own personal agendas.

...

Lets put it this way... if the current Leagues club board, or previous Football club board had any agendas we'd have seen it already right?

I'm happy to be quoted in the near future as saying, people who blindly support the current Football Club board having full control over the Leagues Clubs assets and money.... have absolutely no idea what they are actually supporting.

If they get control of the Leagues Club as well it will be the greatest mistake this club has ever made.

Only a fool brings back the past to try and repair the future.... just like the old saying goes:
'fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me'

The sheer fact the Football Club can:
a) endorse someone who has been bankrupt, and banned from junior league for 6 years.
b) endorse someone who brought our club to it's knees whilst employing his family and allowing others families.
c) endorse someone who knew about the salary cap breaches.

is mindblowing.

If anything it's negligent on their part, and not in the best interests of the club moving forward.

If it was flipped and this was the Leagues Club board acting in such a way, there would be grounds to have the directors removed under the Registered Clubs Act, as not being fit for the role of Director.

I'm near certain if some parties the Football Club want to get in, actually get in, the result could be challenged under the RCA 1976 Section 30 in the courts.

This could also explain the idea behind Iemma and Kanaan being added as Directors.


What's done is done though... all we can do is hope that unlike (what is slowly becomming apparent as a mistake electing the Football Club board), that the same doesn't reoccur on a League Club election level, because the ramifications of such a mistake will be unlike anything the club has seen before.
 

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Paying out a coach $2 million for a mistake (which hasn't happened yet mind you), is far cheaper than paying out $5.5 million for a salary cap breach + millions in lost sponsorship + reportedly a million in your own pocket in legal fees you charge the club for a problem you created yourself.


No, the perfect analogy for this is:

Being elected the Premier of (for example) NSW and then demanding control over the federal budget and any decision in federal government. Then trying to promote your own candidate as prime minister to challenge for leadership, knowing that if they get in it'll be for your own personal agendas.

...

Lets put it this way... if the current Leagues club board, or previous Football club board had any agendas we'd have seen it already right?

I'm happy to be quoted in the near future as saying, people who blindly support the current Football Club board having full control over the Leagues Clubs assets and money.... have absolutely no idea what they are actually supporting.

If they get control of the Leagues Club as well it will be the greatest mistake this club has ever made.

Only a fool brings back the past to try and repair the future.... just like the old saying goes:
'fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me'

The sheer fact the Football Club can:
a) endorse someone who has been bankrupt, and banned from junior league for 6 years.
b) endorse someone who brought our club to it's knees whilst employing his family and allowing others families.
c) endorse someone who knew about the salary cap breaches.

is mindblowing.

If anything it's negligent on their part, and not in the best interests of the club moving forward.

If it was flipped and this was the Leagues Club board acting in such a way, there would be grounds to have the directors removed under the Registered Clubs Act, as not being fit for the role of Director.

I'm near certain if some parties the Football Club want to get in, actually get in, the result could be challenged under the RCA 1976 Section 30 in the courts.

This could also explain the idea behind Iemma and Kanaan being added as Directors.


What's done is done though... all we can do is hope that unlike (what is slowly becomming apparent as a mistake electing the Football Club board), that the same doesn't reoccur on a League Club election level, because the ramifications of such a mistake will be unlike anything the club has seen before.
$5.5 million??? Where the hell did you get that figure from? There’s so many wrong facts and wild allegations you have been making that you’d think being a moderator you’d be more careful.
 

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I know it’s the leagues club. Why are they wanting to add extra people on the board? It’s never been done in our history. Why’s this clown trying to change it? And it’s only the most successful club around because people in the area are chronic gamblers. That has fuck all to do with any of the board members.
Mate, all of this has been covered in the previous 300 posts in this thread. Yes gambling is the key component of their profits - just like every other registered club in the country, but they also make money through food, beverages, merchandising, functions, entertainment and a range of other activities. You might also like to know that they bailed a couple of other smaller clubs out that were going broke - not to make a profit but to give the local oldies a chance to keep going to their local club. If it was only about gambling then it would be like Vegas where you can hit the pokies in the airport and on the streets. If you really think that just buying a truck load of pokies and plugging them in guarantees turnover in the hundreds of millions then you really have no idea how registered clubs operate.
 

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He might have resigned but he still came back to get into bed with Dib which wasn’t such a good idea.
As history will record, but it was still the same floor he was on.....some might argue he was just going back home!
 

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Paying out a coach $2 million for a mistake (which hasn't happened yet mind you), is far cheaper than paying out $5.5 million for a salary cap breach + millions in lost sponsorship + reportedly a million in your own pocket in legal fees you charge the club for a problem you created yourself.


No, the perfect analogy for this is:

Being elected the Premier of (for example) NSW and then demanding control over the federal budget and any decision in federal government. Then trying to promote your own candidate as prime minister to challenge for leadership, knowing that if they get in it'll be for your own personal agendas.

...

Lets put it this way... if the current Leagues club board, or previous Football club board had any agendas we'd have seen it already right?

I'm happy to be quoted in the near future as saying, people who blindly support the current Football Club board having full control over the Leagues Clubs assets and money.... have absolutely no idea what they are actually supporting.

If they get control of the Leagues Club as well it will be the greatest mistake this club has ever made.

Only a fool brings back the past to try and repair the future.... just like the old saying goes:
'fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me'

The sheer fact the Football Club can:
a) endorse someone who has been bankrupt, and banned from junior league for 6 years.
b) endorse someone who brought our club to it's knees whilst employing his family and allowing others families.
c) endorse someone who knew about the salary cap breaches.

is mindblowing.

If anything it's negligent on their part, and not in the best interests of the club moving forward.

If it was flipped and this was the Leagues Club board acting in such a way, there would be grounds to have the directors removed under the Registered Clubs Act, as not being fit for the role of Director.

I'm near certain if some parties the Football Club want to get in, actually get in, the result could be challenged under the RCA 1976 Section 30 in the courts.

This could also explain the idea behind Iemma and Kanaan being added as Directors.


What's done is done though... all we can do is hope that unlike (what is slowly becomming apparent as a mistake electing the Football Club board), that the same doesn't reoccur on a League Club election level, because the ramifications of such a mistake will be unlike anything the club has seen before.
The football club has always had a majority over the leagues club, why do you ride the dick of dib and peponis so much? They’re causing just as much shit for the club if not more so, and their agenda is obviously they don’t want to give up control of the club
 

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$5.5 million??? Where the hell did you get that figure from? There’s so many wrong facts and wild allegations you have been making that you’d think being a moderator you’d be more careful.
Oh sorry you wanted facts... here you go then mate.

Perhaps speak to Kate McClymont (whom if she hits gold will destroy this Football Club board and force them all to step down), or any other league journo out there who are busy at work looking.

I can tell you they are all on the hunt and all it takes is one person, one snippet of information, and it's all over. When they find that information and it hits the media, the entire board will have no choice but to step down.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...un-wealthy-bulldogs-club-20180315-p4z4k2.html

MARROUN - Endorsed by Football Club Board to Leagues Club Board.
A Fairfax Media investigation can also reveal that Mr Marroun, a former carpenter and builder, was bankrupted in 2009. According to this bankruptcy records, Mr Marroun is also known as Jabbour and Gabby.

In 2011 his bankruptcy was extended for a further three years after he failed to provide his bankruptcy trustee with information about his property interests and income. He was discharged from bankruptcy in 2015.

“I didn’t flee the country, I didn’t do a [Salim] Mehajer, I was in the trenches for a long time,” said Mr Marroun of his bankruptcy.

He said he had “learned a lot from the experience” and now has a national recruitment business which has contracts with organisations such as ANZ Stadium and The Star casino.

He also has $30,000 sponsorships with both the Bulldogs and West Tigers.

Mr Marroun, 39, is currently involved in property development with Bulldogs player Michael Lichaa and Josh Reynolds, who left the Bulldogs for West Tigers. Mr Marroun’s wife Enass is a director of MGJ Developments with the two footballers.

All the above in ADDITION to the banning from Junior League
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ANDERSONS AND THE MCINTYRE CONNECTION - Endorsed by Football Club Board to Leagues Club Board.

Controversially, Mrs Anderson and her husband Chris, a former successful coach with the club, are backing the return of Gary McIntyre, who has the number one position on the ticket.

Mr McIntyre was the driving force behind the club’s salary cap scandal which say the premiership favourites relegated to last place after Fairfax Media exposed his involvement in making secret payments to players.

Not only was the club fined $500,000, it also lost close to $5 million in legal fees, settlement with the Australian Tax Office and penalty payments to Liquor and Gaming.

Although the position on the leagues club board did not attract a salary, the Herald revealed he and his family had collected close to a million dollars as Mr McIntyre, a suburban lawyer, was charging the football club hefty legal fees.

His wife Christine was employed by the league club in administration, his son-in-law was head of maintenance, and his son David was the financial director of the entity behind the controversial Oasis development, a joint project between the Liverpool Council and the Bulldogs.

In his pitch to “make the Bulldogs great again,” Mr McIntyre spoke of this “great relationship” with Lynne and Chris Anderson.


BALLESTY AND HIS SALARY CAP AWARENESS - Endorsed by Football Club Board to Leagues Club Board.
He said he was also “fuelled with enthusiasm by the return of his previous CEO John Ballesty.” Mr Ballesty, who has previously admitted he was aware of the scheme to breach the salary cap, was recently elected to the football club board and is one of the four nominated to the league club board.

The football club has always had a majority over the leagues club, why do you ride the dick of dib and peponis so much? They’re causing just as much shit for the club if not more so, and their agenda is obviously they don’t want to give up control of the club
Can you blame them after reading the above?

Can you hand on heart honestly say you are 100% confident in the above people after reading the above (and that's before one talks about others)?

I think a LOT will depend on what happens on Weds election results.

If before then journos strike gold and publish what they find, then members better prepare for voting again.
 

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Oh sorry you wanted facts... here you go then mate.

Perhaps speak to Kate McClymont (whom if she hits gold will destroy this Football Club board and force them all to step down), or any other league journo out there who are busy at work looking.

I can tell you they are all on the hunt and all it takes is one person, one snippet of information, and it's all over. When they find that information and it hits the media, the entire board will have no choice but to step down.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...un-wealthy-bulldogs-club-20180315-p4z4k2.html

MARROUN - Endorsed by Football Club Board to Leagues Club Board.
A Fairfax Media investigation can also reveal that Mr Marroun, a former carpenter and builder, was bankrupted in 2009. According to this bankruptcy records, Mr Marroun is also known as Jabbour and Gabby.

In 2011 his bankruptcy was extended for a further three years after he failed to provide his bankruptcy trustee with information about his property interests and income. He was discharged from bankruptcy in 2015.

“I didn’t flee the country, I didn’t do a [Salim] Mehajer, I was in the trenches for a long time,” said Mr Marroun of his bankruptcy.

He said he had “learned a lot from the experience” and now has a national recruitment business which has contracts with organisations such as ANZ Stadium and The Star casino.

He also has $30,000 sponsorships with both the Bulldogs and West Tigers.

Mr Marroun, 39, is currently involved in property development with Bulldogs player Michael Lichaa and Josh Reynolds, who left the Bulldogs for West Tigers. Mr Marroun’s wife Enass is a director of MGJ Developments with the two footballers.

All the above in ADDITION to the banning from Junior League
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ANDERSONS AND THE MCINTYRE CONNECTION - Endorsed by Football Club Board to Leagues Club Board.

Controversially, Mrs Anderson and her husband Chris, a former successful coach with the club, are backing the return of Gary McIntyre, who has the number one position on the ticket.

Mr McIntyre was the driving force behind the club’s salary cap scandal which say the premiership favourites relegated to last place after Fairfax Media exposed his involvement in making secret payments to players.

Not only was the club fined $500,000, it also lost close to $5 million in legal fees, settlement with the Australian Tax Office and penalty payments to Liquor and Gaming.

Although the position on the leagues club board did not attract a salary, the Herald revealed he and his family had collected close to a million dollars as Mr McIntyre, a suburban lawyer, was charging the football club hefty legal fees.

His wife Christine was employed by the league club in administration, his son-in-law was head of maintenance, and his son David was the financial director of the entity behind the controversial Oasis development, a joint project between the Liverpool Council and the Bulldogs.

In his pitch to “make the Bulldogs great again,” Mr McIntyre spoke of this “great relationship” with Lynne and Chris Anderson.


BALLESTY AND HIS SALARY CAP AWARENESS - Endorsed by Football Club Board to Leagues Club Board.
He said he was also “fuelled with enthusiasm by the return of his previous CEO John Ballesty.” Mr Ballesty, who has previously admitted he was aware of the scheme to breach the salary cap, was recently elected to the football club board and is one of the four nominated to the league club board.


Can you blame them after reading the above?

Can you hand on heart honestly say you are 100% confident in the above people after reading the above (and that's before one talks about others)?

I think a LOT will depend on what happens on Weds election results.

If before then journos strike gold and publish what they find, then members better prepare for voting again.
Is this the same McClymont who claimed she got the Cowboys rorting the cap, Manly rorting the cap and putting out several false allegations about Foran. She only ever got the Dogs info because it was served up to her on a platter and is still milking it years later because she’s exposed nothing since. Her agenda is to hype this for all its worth and it’s pretty easy to see.
 

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Is this the same McClymont who claimed she got the Cowboys rorting the cap, Manly rorting the cap and putting out several false allegations about Foran. She only ever got the Dogs info because it was served up to her on a platter and is still milking it years later because she’s exposed nothing since. Her agenda is to hype this for all its worth and it’s pretty easy to see.
and your factual information (of which you have offered up NOTHING to date) comes from where exactly?

I'm getting fed information from multiple sources, and strangely they all say the same things. Surely if this was all made up and ficticious that wouldn't be the case right?
 
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