Andrew Hill facing a very different challenge at Canterbury Bulldogs

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Andrew Hill, during his stint at Greater Western Sydney, did not have to deal with salary cap pressures.

In his role as academies manager of the fledgling franchise, Hill was handed a blank cheque to build a team ahead of its inaugural year in the AFL. If the Giants were to make an inroad into traditional league heartland, it would take more than just blokes capable of taking a hanger or a handball. So Hill, armed with a war chest and limited only by his imagination, drew up a hit list of his top three ring-ins – Jarryd Hayne, Michael Jennings and Israel Folau.

History will show GWS, not content with finding the next Folau, snared the current one. While he never made a real impression on the field, it prompted a cross-code war that more than paid for itself in the promotional stakes.

Hill's next gig, as the chief executive at Canterbury, is everything the GWS role was not. At Belmore, the cap doesn't fit. He will inherit a roster comprised of players on inflated and back-ended contracts and will answer to a board that may be removed shortly after his arrival. His first duty, after getting his feet under the desk, could well be to spear one of the modern game's best coaches and then trying to find a capable replacement.

Whatever the future holds for Des Hasler and the current board, one thing is certain – Hill will not be able to buy his way out of trouble. A new cap on football spending will prevent Canterbury's rich leagues club from blindly signing cheques to appease the coach. Regardless of where the NRL and the RLPA land on a salary cap, the Bulldogs will be well over it. Upon completing his commitments as the boss of the Rugby League World Cup, Hill will have just a few months to ensure the blue and whites are cap compliant for the 2018 season. This will be no mean feat. Canterbury have signed Kieran Foran and Aaron Woods at a time when their biggest names are coming to the most lucrative year of their contracts. Save for Melbourne-bound Sam Kasiano, attempts to offload players have so far come to nought. Rival clubs are waiting for the fire sale that is inevitably coming.


Hill has experience working in challenging environments. His life-long dream was to play for Parramatta and, in August of 1993, he got his chance. Eels coach Mick Cronin chose a clash at Bruce Stadium with Canberra – against a side including Ricky Stuart, Laurie Daley, Mal Meninga, Brad Clyde, Gary Belcher and Brett Mullins – as the time to blood the rookie. By the time the full-time hooter mercifully sounded, the Green Machine had racked up 68 unanswered points in what remains the heaviest defeat in Parramatta's history. Hill, wearing the No.16 jersey, never got a another crack in the top grade.

He did, however, spend about a decade in Parramatta's front office. "Hilly" was the protege of Denis Fitzgerald, an association that initially advanced his career but ultimately cost him the chance to replace the "Emperor'' long term. When Fitzgerald was sensationally ousted at the ballot box, Hill was a victim of the politics engulfing the blue and golds at the time. The Eels are poorer for it. One of their many subsequent CEOs, Scott Seward, was bullied into presiding over the mess that became the salary cap scandal. It wouldn't have happened had Hill been at the helm.

Hill has held executive roles across all four professional football codes. It is that experience that made him stand out from the 2600 other applicants clamouring for the job.

"Andrew was appointed from a very strong list of candidates and has exceptional experience in the game of rugby league," said Bulldogs chairman Ray Dib.

"We thought it was important that we got a person who had a strong background in the game and understood the culture and ethos of our club"

Hill will start his new job just as his old one comes to an end. The timing for Manly isn't as fortuitous. Hill had been shortlisted as a potential CEO replacement for Tim Cleary. The Silvertails will need to look elsewhere to find their ninth chief executive in the post-Northern Eagles era.


Maybe he can bring Folau, that would be an awesome start!
 

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Sounds like we should brace ourselves to read the inevitable headlines about where Jackson and Klemmer are playing next year; and resign ourselves to the fact that the plodders will be our main force for the next few seasons. Hill will have a real job if he is to lift us above "ordinary" standard.
 

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He clearly signed on for the cash money, nobody in their right mind would want to be associated with the abortion our club currently is for any other reason
 

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What a mess he will inherit.
 
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Another corporate bought in to run it like a business, would prefer an ocker who goes for Canterbury who can have a beer with the team after the game.
Here goes, good luck Mr Hill.
 

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Another corporate bought in to run it like a business, would prefer an ocker who goes for Canterbury who can have a beer with the team after the game.
Here goes, good luck Mr Hill.
That might work if any of the team or administration lived locally. A pub in the Eastern Suburbs or Peninsular might work ,though.
 

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At least he's a rugby league person who's played the game and knows how the politics of clubs work.

He's been used to the drama and circus at Parramatta for all of those years so he'll be well prepared for the mess at Canterbury!

Hopefully he has some balls and stands his ground with Dib and whatever coach replaces Hasler.
 

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At least he's a rugby league person who's played the game and knows how the politics of clubs work.

He's been used to the drama and circus at Parramatta for all of those years so he'll be well prepared for the mess at Canterbury!

Hopefully he has some balls and stands his ground with Dib and whatever coach replaces Hasler.
We need a complete review/overhaul during the offseason much like the Roosters did in the 2013 off season when they signed Trent Robinson, Maloney, Jennings, Williams etc.
 

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Andrew Hill, during his stint at Greater Western Sydney, did not have to deal with salary cap pressures.

In his role as academies manager of the fledgling franchise, Hill was handed a blank cheque to build a team ahead of its inaugural year in the AFL. If the Giants were to make an inroad into traditional league heartland, it would take more than just blokes capable of taking a hanger or a handball. So Hill, armed with a war chest and limited only by his imagination, drew up a hit list of his top three ring-ins – Jarryd Hayne, Michael Jennings and Israel Folau.

History will show GWS, not content with finding the next Folau, snared the current one. While he never made a real impression on the field, it prompted a cross-code war that more than paid for itself in the promotional stakes.

Hill's next gig, as the chief executive at Canterbury, is everything the GWS role was not. At Belmore, the cap doesn't fit. He will inherit a roster comprised of players on inflated and back-ended contracts and will answer to a board that may be removed shortly after his arrival. His first duty, after getting his feet under the desk, could well be to spear one of the modern game's best coaches and then trying to find a capable replacement.

Whatever the future holds for Des Hasler and the current board, one thing is certain – Hill will not be able to buy his way out of trouble. A new cap on football spending will prevent Canterbury's rich leagues club from blindly signing cheques to appease the coach. Regardless of where the NRL and the RLPA land on a salary cap, the Bulldogs will be well over it. Upon completing his commitments as the boss of the Rugby League World Cup, Hill will have just a few months to ensure the blue and whites are cap compliant for the 2018 season. This will be no mean feat. Canterbury have signed Kieran Foran and Aaron Woods at a time when their biggest names are coming to the most lucrative year of their contracts. Save for Melbourne-bound Sam Kasiano, attempts to offload players have so far come to nought. Rival clubs are waiting for the fire sale that is inevitably coming.


Hill has experience working in challenging environments. His life-long dream was to play for Parramatta and, in August of 1993, he got his chance. Eels coach Mick Cronin chose a clash at Bruce Stadium with Canberra – against a side including Ricky Stuart, Laurie Daley, Mal Meninga, Brad Clyde, Gary Belcher and Brett Mullins – as the time to blood the rookie. By the time the full-time hooter mercifully sounded, the Green Machine had racked up 68 unanswered points in what remains the heaviest defeat in Parramatta's history. Hill, wearing the No.16 jersey, never got a another crack in the top grade.

He did, however, spend about a decade in Parramatta's front office. "Hilly" was the protege of Denis Fitzgerald, an association that initially advanced his career but ultimately cost him the chance to replace the "Emperor'' long term. When Fitzgerald was sensationally ousted at the ballot box, Hill was a victim of the politics engulfing the blue and golds at the time. The Eels are poorer for it. One of their many subsequent CEOs, Scott Seward, was bullied into presiding over the mess that became the salary cap scandal. It wouldn't have happened had Hill been at the helm.

Hill has held executive roles across all four professional football codes. It is that experience that made him stand out from the 2600 other applicants clamouring for the job.

"Andrew was appointed from a very strong list of candidates and has exceptional experience in the game of rugby league," said Bulldogs chairman Ray Dib.

"We thought it was important that we got a person who had a strong background in the game and understood the culture and ethos of our club"

Hill will start his new job just as his old one comes to an end. The timing for Manly isn't as fortuitous. Hill had been shortlisted as a potential CEO replacement for Tim Cleary. The Silvertails will need to look elsewhere to find their ninth chief executive in the post-Northern Eagles era.


Maybe he can bring Folau, that would be an awesome start!
Tell you what Manly, I know of a CEO that will fit really well at your club. Her name is Raelene.
 

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I've long said we are in for a tough adjustment period to get out of Haslers mess. My estimate would be 2018 and 2019 will be lean years before the back ended duds are out of the system. We will realistically be in a position to challenge for the title from 2020 onwards with a clean slate.

The best idea for now would be to buy young players with huge upside and do a complete rebuild like the Knights have. Players like Stone Levi King Fitzgibbon Barnett Lamb will be good first graders well before their time on lower contracts. We need to do similar.
Mbye & Tolman are contracted to 2020 so it may be 2021!
 

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They say you should always leave your last job in a better position than when you started it.

This place is burning so this **** will shit it in.
 

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They say you should always leave your last job in a better position than when you started it.

This place is burning so this **** will shit it in.
Yet Castle is still getting talked up as a great operator in the media...........
 

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At least Des will be gone before he starts
 

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he has a real challenge a head of him I don't know how he sleeps at night but I wish you luck
your first job is to get rid of the dickheads that have put us in this position DES THE SUPER COACH MUST GO
 

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All I know is if he gets Des out of our club before 2018 starts then he will go up 1 notch in my book, which will put him at notch 1
 
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