Matty Johns launches blistering NRL attack

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Gotta laugh my arse off at these ex-playing commentary guru's who just months ago were calling us dogs fans over the top etc for saying what they have have miraculously learnt since Saturday. Took Matty Johns 5 minutes to know we wouldn't score a point, hell Matty some of us tipped it 3 years ago.
 

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True, but this is the team Des built and he is responsible for this predicament so he should also be turfed.
Perhaps but its not as if he didn't try and bring in a quality half. Went hard after foran and Thurston...I think the board also play a part in assisting recruitment of players, so they can share the blame too.
 

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You are kidding yourself if you think Des can land any decent signings

He hasn't done that it 5 years with us

In that 5 years plenty of quality players have moved around from club to club
Roosters lost RTS and got Michael Gordon straight away as a decent replacement

We are looking for ours for last 5 years.

#notdessfault
 

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like we did with ennis ...what a great hooker he was under Des

oh wait.
You're wrong , Ennis had vision and creativity even in shackles.


Matty made a very good observation

Mbye , Lichaa abbey are not creative footballers

However reynolds is an outstanding support player.

And Hoppa is a talented centre who is almost on par with what Perrett was at fullback.
 

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Roosters lost RTS and got Michael Gordon straight away as a decent replacement

We are looking for ours for last 5 years.

#notdessfault
Exactly
If abbey was so good, why did warriors sign RTS

We needed a fullback
How did warriors get RTS and we didn't

Then as a result we sign abbey

Fuck me dead
 

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Exactly
If abbey was so good, why did warriors sign RTS

We needed a fullback
How did warriors get RTS and we didn't

Then as a result we sign abbey

Fuck me dead

no one wants to come to the Kancer Kareer Killer
 

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no one wants to come to the Kancer Kareer Killer
And I don't blame them for that

Hence why
Des has to go now
The sooner we re build the better

I'm still pissed our club didn't include the Des clause in Mbye contract

That useless **** can fuck off with Des as far as I'm concerned

I want Reynolds to stay.

I just want a real halfback in the team
 

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You are kidding yourself if you think Des can land any decent signings

He hasn't done that it 5 years with us

In that 5 years plenty of quality players have moved around from club to club
How many quality halves have moved clubs since hodkinson left us?
 

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You're wrong , Ennis had vision and creativity even in shackles.


Matty made a very good observation

Mbye , Lichaa abbey are not creative footballers

However reynolds is an outstanding support player.

And Hoppa is a talented centre who is almost on par with what Perrett was at fullback.

what if the vision, creativity and organising skills have been sucked out of these players?

Ennis had a shocking kicking game with us and had no confidence whenever he kicked...look at him how the game changed at sharks.

Reynolds has been playing under Des for 5 years

Mbye and Liccha for 3 years

that is enough time for any junior to lose all 3 qualities I have mentioned

they have been turned into brainless robots who only praise Des and follow his structures and never have a plan B when plan A doesnt work.
 

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Because we basically are. Des has overcoached the team and we are to set in our structures to do anything different. Ennis made comments about it this year...we just run the same plays over and over regardless of what the defence is doing.
Over coached suggests he's out there coaching , I think the problem lies with des sitting on his hands and getting the players to just follow his instructions from 2012. Training session after training session .. He's a lazy coach
 

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Sack Des, bring in whoever and tell firsts if they don't perform, they're in reserves. No exceptions.

Doing the same shit ain't gonna improve anything, time to rattle the cages.
 

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Problem is we are fucked for the next few years as we have signed Mbye to big money and he is shit.

The only option is for the club to set him up on a night on the town where he plays up and they can sack him.

This is the only way we can have brand new halves.
 

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Sezer, Ash Taylor, Maloney
So you're saying you wouldn't have re signed mbye based on how he was playing back in 2015? Pretty sure reynolds was still contracted at the time as well
 

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Because we basically are. Des has overcoached the team and we are to set in our structures to do anything different. Ennis made comments about it this year...we just run the same plays over and over regardless of what the defence is doing.
I agree. Feels like Des has put so much emphasis on numbers and playing the high percentage. This is reinforced in the players mind hence having very little creativity
Lots of things come to mind
  • always ranting on about high completions
  • forward dominated game i.e. inside the opposition 20m we have 4 forward hitups
  • being tackled on the 5th (last year)
  • always talking about the numbers in terms of training
  • very few grubbers into the ingoal
  • Des not letting Ennis/Lichaa run the ball much
  • Seems like he is stuck in his way with the bench rotation (someone playing the last 10min ie Halatau/Maitua/Elliot etc.)
 

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So you're saying you wouldn't have re signed mbye based on how he was playing back in 2015? Pretty sure reynolds was still contracted at the time as well

decent halves have become available every year for last 3 years.

Mbye was re- signed last year for 800k.

Having said that any other half would have ended up like Mbye under Des.
 

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lol,

Hunt, Elgey, Sezer, ashely taylor.
I doubt we've got the cap space to offer hunt what st george did, pretty sure elgey was already at the titans and re signed, taylor was a rookie who hadn't played first grade yet and we signed mbye who everyone wanted re signed back in 2015. Not saying we couldn't have done better on the player market but its easy to criticise in hindsight
 
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