Mother of Broncos star Payne Haas jailed for violent assault at casino

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That's a tragic accident that easily could have been avoided. Thoughts go out to the families of the deceased..

It makes no sense why the police didn't pursue them though if they tried to flag them down earlier and they didn't stop.. Since when do cops not pursue in that situation?
Because their government is as weak as piss. All the young punks up there no, and steal cars whenever they want. No one will chase them
 

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Because their government is as weak as piss. All the young punks up there no, and steal cars whenever they want. No one will chase them
Chasing them isn't going to stop them. Also Section 51B of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) makes police pursuits an offence. So they are illegal in NSW as well.
 
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Im only going to judge Payne on what Payne does, i know you cant choose your relatives. Ive got/had a few shockers in my own family. Hopefully Payne can break away from that culture in his family for his sake. Time will tell if his mothers inevitable jailing will affect him this year. Hes on overs now, so he has to perform.
 

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That's a tragic accident that easily could have been avoided. Thoughts go out to the families of the deceased..







It makes no sense why the police didn't pursue them though if they tried to flag them down earlier and they didn't stop.. Since when do cops not pursue in that situation?


It's abit like these Russian oligarchs that mysteriously fall out of windows to their death....



It happens.
 

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Chasing them isn't going to stop them. Also Section 51B of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) makes police pursuits an offence. So they are illegal in NSW as well.
Blah blah. It’s common knowledge, of course chasing them would cut down the rate of car theft etc. The whole states a mess with youth crime, and has been for years now.
 

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That's a tragic accident that easily could have been avoided. Thoughts go out to the families of the deceased..

It makes no sense why the police didn't pursue them though if they tried to flag them down earlier and they didn't stop.. Since when do cops not pursue in that situation?
Maybe I'm just an old cynic but I've read far too many stories about cops discontinuing a pursuit, then five minutes later the car they"weren't" pursuing ends up crashing anyway. I suspect that somebody in police HQ has worked out that a car crashing during active pursuit is a bad optic and could have legal ramifications, so they instruct their officers to pretend the pursuit had been discontinued prior to the crash.
 

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Maybe I'm just an old cynic but I've read far too many stories about cops discontinuing a pursuit, then five minutes later the car they"weren't" pursuing ends up crashing anyway. I suspect that somebody in police HQ has worked out that a car crashing during active pursuit is a bad optic and could have legal ramifications, so they instruct their officers to pretend the pursuit had been discontinued prior to the crash.

It happens...
 

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Im only going to judge Payne on what Payne does, i know you cant choose your relatives. Ive got/had a few shockers in my own family. Hopefully Payne can break away from that culture in his family for his sake. Time will tell if his mothers inevitable jailing will affect him this year. Hes on overs now, so he has to perform.
Just don't stand on his new sneakers.
 

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Sounded to me like she got lit up and either had something on her, or was driving whilst suspended (or something else that would have breached her parole), so did a runner instead.
 

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Still shouldn’t have any impact on Payne continuing in NRL. What he’s family does, has nothing to do with himself. He probably needs the game now more than ever to be honest
 

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caught up with a mate yesterday having a chat it came up the car crash and payne hass mother, different cases I know but have the sickly feeling he may be right.
i don't want to make this sound less serious than it already is, but my mate said these exact words

just like that **** Brett Finch this fucking mole will likely use the mental health card claiming society contributed to her issues as a likely excuse

I feel so bad for the family of those that were sadly killed
there should be no forgiveness
 

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Chasing them isn't going to stop them. Also Section 51B of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) makes police pursuits an offence. So they are illegal in NSW as well.
Bullshit (it's been a common adjective I have had to utilise this pre season), police are trained in high speed pursuit and tested regularly, whilst the pursued are almost always not. As a result it would be extremely difficult to prove recklessness or endangerment in regards to the personnel trained in high speed pursuit. The said they abort the pursuit what that is applicable.

I think you need to reread Section 51B, it refers to the pursued not the pursuer.

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Maybe I'm just an old cynic but I've read far too many stories about cops discontinuing a pursuit, then five minutes later the car they"weren't" pursuing ends up crashing anyway. I suspect that somebody in police HQ has worked out that a car crashing during active pursuit is a bad optic and could have legal ramifications, so they instruct their officers to pretend the pursuit had been discontinued prior to the crash.
There would usually be a hell of a lot of witnesses so I don't know how they'd get away with that TBH.
 

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There would usually be a hell of a lot of witnesses so I don't know how they'd get away with that TBH.
My best guess - and it is only a guess - is that they begin a pursuit by following close behind a suspect vehicle with lights flashing and sirens going. Most people will pull over but the odd one will try to outrun them. For those, they will continue to follow but a couple of hundred metres back, maybe switching off lights and siren. This keeps the pressure on the suspect and so an accident is still likely, but it allows the cops to claim they have abandoned the chase.

If you are an eye witness to the crash, you don't see cops chasing, you see them arrive quickly after the accident, which would seem perfectly normal.
 
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