News Former NRL star Brett Finch reveals rock bottom

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No I am not, the farker was unbalanced, demented and just plain sick in the head doing what he did, the question I have is was it the coke posting or is he like that undrugged?
He'd be like that with or without drugs. No one has ever used coke and all of a sudden felt like going on paedophile chat groups out of nowhere.
 

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He acknowledged that he did not actually ask for drugs in any of the messages.

On Wednesday, Judge Phillip Mahony said Finch’s plan was “plainly absurd” and had no hope of success, but accepted that Finch’s motivation was a desire for drugs.
God protect the children...
Because Judge Phillip Mahony and his likes wouldn't :rage:
 

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I would think it's pretty rare for someone to engage in child abuse conversations if it is not you real thoughts. Most of the population would not do this. Access to coke is not difficult and he would have multiple dealers in his circle and associates he scores with. How did he find out about the pedo chat room? Only other pedos would have told him about that.Talking about having sex with kids is the entry point to having sex with kids or engaging other people to have sex with kids for his perverted fantasies. Hope the sick fuck is monitored because a pedo or someone with pedo thoughts rarely stops and it is in the nature of pedos to groom and manipulate everyone.
The sentence I can understand because I assume there was a lack of evidence but the judge deciding to not release what the sick fuck said in his pedo conversations is an odd one. The world should know what this sick fuck said.
Way too many holes in this report...
His whole defence was based on his desperation to obtain drugs for his terrible habit...
Yet it is reported he has never once asked for drugs, very strange !!!
 

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If this is true, it leaves a damning question mark on the outcome :rage:
The problem with our society is that many in high positions are all part of some inner circle. Not saying they are pedo at all, I have no proof.
But they will protect each other.

Would an average guy, a battler get the same treatment? Or made an example of.
 

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The problem with our society is that many in high positions are all part of some inner circle. Not saying they are pedo at all, I have no proof.
But they will protect each other.

Would an average guy, a battler get the same treatment? Or made an example of.
I think we all know the answer to that.
Even for minor charges standing in court, if you cant afford representation you cop it worse than someone that can.
Its all a twisted game.
 

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The problem with our society is that many in high positions are all part of some inner circle. Not saying they are pedo at all, I have no proof.
But they will protect each other.

Would an average guy, a battler get the same treatment? Or made an example of.
We have to protect innocence
We should always believe in the Innocent until proven guilty !!!
But never ever look for excuses for the guilty !!!
As for corruption in high places, an individual is hopeless in making a difference,
Good people from around the world must unite in facing the EVIL !!!
 
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TBH, from what I have read, I believe his actual goal was to score drugs. Not saying that what he said wasn't disgusting. Addicts will do fucked up things to try and get their next fix.

Unless there is some evidence of him with kiddy porn or actually trying to groom children that I'm not ware of.
 

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I dont understand how being an addict means he gets off. Somebody robs someone to pay for drugs they dont get lighter punishment.
Dude this has been an issue for years. People getting off for things because they were drunk, or on drugs, or addicted to drugs etc. It is an absolute joke. Unless someone physically shoved that shit down your throat against your will that is absolutely no excuse.

Unfortunately this is how society is these days. No one is responsible for their own actions..
 

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That full Crikey article (without having to give up your email address :grinning:

Opinion / Justice
When the law fails to take fantasies of child sexual abuse seriously, it fails victims
The courts accepted Brett Finch's explanation for why he used an online platform frequented by paedophiles. What does that say to victims?
MICHAEL BRADLEY
NOV 24, 2022
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The Downing Centre District Court of NSW in Sydney (Image: AAP Image/Mick Tsikas)
THE DOWNING CENTRE DISTRICT COURT OF NSW IN SYDNEY (IMAGE: AAP IMAGE/MICK TSIKAS)
I will explain this carefully. Brett Finch, a 41-year-old former NRL player, pleaded guilty to one count of using a carriage service to transmit or publish child abuse material. He had engaged in seven conversations on an online messaging platform frequented by paedophile predators, where he shared fantasies about wanting to have sex with young boys.
Finch told District Court judge Phillip Mahony that his “depraved” messages were deliberate lies. He said he was addicted to cocaine at the time, and concocted a “plainly absurd” plan to go on the platform because he thought it would be a good way to find other drug users, making it easier for him to source supply for himself. He didn’t ask for, or mention, drugs in any of his messages.
The judge accepted Finch’s story and his protestation that he has no sexual interest in children. He also considered of relevance the fact that Finch’s offending did not involve any actual children, and that he has insight into his drug addiction.
Consequently, the judge handed Finch a two-year “sentence in the community” under conditions including that he continue seeing a psychologist. Unless he steps out of line, he will do no prison time.
It’s legitimate to raise an eyebrow at the plausibility of Finch’s explanation, but we are obliged to accept the factual findings of the court. The judge was in a position to make them, and we were not. So that is the end of that part of the conversation.
However, what does accepting it say? To the community, to predators and to their victims?


The notion that any action related to child sex abuse material can ever be victimless is abhorrent. I’m sorry, but “actual” children were or will be hurt by Finch’s actions. The paedophile world is a constantly running sewer, populated by subterranean beings who are sociopathic, predatory, opportunistic and pliable.
These platforms and networks exist because these creatures encourage, inspire and enable one another. They share, constantly, in massive volumes of gross depravity. The psychological mechanics of this sexual offending are well known. They involve risk-taking, addictive behaviours. It is wrong to suggest that you can pick out any single act from this fetid swamp of inhuman degradation and say, “Oh, this one is harmless.” It isn’t. Ever.
The thing about child sexual abusers, as Grace Tame has been shouting very loudly for two years now, is they don’t just groom their victims; they groom everyone. They operate without shame. That must be so, because nobody with a microgram of shame would sexually abuse a child. They exploit our ambivalence in believing this horror could exist in our ordered world, and our unwillingness to believe children.
These vile men work us over, co-opting the institutional environments in which they thrive. They are insidious. When caught out, they lie, pretend, feign and distract. They manipulate us into diminishing their violations, blaming their victims, accepting their crap like it has some credibility.
If this is the law — that a man who consciously participated in the creation and sharing of child abuse material, adding to the ever-growing mountain of that material, gets a non-custodial sentence because he didn’t really mean what he was writing, and that is seen as an appropriate outcome — then the law is failing the victims of child sexual abuse.
I’m not a crime and punishment advocate. I don’t believe prison rehabilitates anyone, and I don’t believe in mandatory sentencing. But working with child sexual abuse survivors has made me realise there is no hope for their abusers — and that we, as a society, are not taking their crimes seriously enough.
These men exist. They’re not monsters of our imagination or, more particularly, our children’s. Our tolerance of their crimes is overdue for a reckoning.
Survivors of abuse can find support by calling Bravehearts at 1800 272 831 or the Blue Knot Foundation at 1300 657 380. The Kids Helpline is 1800 55 1800. In an emergency, call 000.
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ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Michael Bradley — Legal Correspondent

Michael Bradley
LEGAL CORRESPONDENT @MARQUELAWYERS
Michael Bradley is a freelance writer and managing partner at Sydney firm Marque Lawyers, which was created in 2008 with the singular ambition of completely changing the way law is practised.
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