Opinion SOS Shane Flanagan

[DinkumDog]

Bring in Tim Sheens

Saw Tim recently.
Looked quite frail.
Imagine what the Tigers are doing to his health.
Don’t think that’s what we need…

 

[D- voice]

Saw Tim recently.
Looked quite frail.
Imagine what the Tigers are doing to his health.
Don’t think that’s what we need…

I thought it was meant as a joke

 

[Rassayri]

By SOS do you mean Sell Our Souls? I'll pass on the coach that oversaw a doping program for his team thanks..

If it means winning premierships I’ll sell my soul to the devil

 

[DinkumDog]

I thought it was meant as a joke

I think it was, but I was surprised at how frail he looked up close. I guess he’s in his 70’s now so not knocking him but wondering why he’d want the stress of what he’s taken on at Concord - can’t be good for you!

 

[dogbone]

We have to be patient, I am not one to throw anyone under the bus but acknowledge that this trend can't continue,
Gus would and should know if TBaz is the right man for the job, if not I am sure he will act accordingly !!!

No sorry my patience with Trent ended when he dropped Averillo in round 3. He had Wakeham, Averillo and Flanagan all there last season. He knew Burton was our 5/8th in 2022. He should have gone into this season 100% behind his first choice halfback. He picked Averillo against most peoples advice and then flicked him for Wakeham who has been no better. It's just bloody disappointing. I mean this guy was one of the best halves in the comp not long ago, you would think he'd have a clue and if the did we would have seen it by now.

 

[Spoonman84]

Why are some so convinced that Shane Flanagan will get us winning anyway? Putting his baggage to one side he hasn’t been a head coach since 2018 and has been a on and off again assistant without much success. That’s a hell of a long time to be away from the game with so much change happening. I can’t see him being much a attraction for players. I just don’t see the appeal.

 

[D- voice]

No sorry my patience with Trent ended when he dropped Averillo in round 3. He had Wakeham, Averillo and Flanagan all there last season. He knew Burton was our 5/8th in 2022. He should have gone into this season 100% behind his first choice halfback. He picked Averillo against most peoples advice and then flicked him for Wakeham who has been no better. It's just bloody disappointing. I mean this guy was one of the best halves in the comp not long ago, you would think he'd have a clue and if the did we would have seen it by now.

I totally agree on the Halfback point and the need to listen to people that know better !

 

[AlzzBulldog]

Why are some so convinced that Shane Flanagan will get us winning anyway? Putting his baggage to one side he hasn’t been a head coach since 2018 and has been a on and off again assistant without much success. That’s a hell of a long time to be away from the game with so much change happening. I can’t see him being much a attraction for players. I just don’t see the appeal.

We’ve taken risks already with pay and Barrett as assistants and it’s flopped… it’s only right to take a punt on an experienced Flanagan

 

[EXPLORER]

I don’t care as long as we win. Simple. I’m pretty every person in the kennel would put up with Kyle playing if it meant we were winning games. Straight out

Can you guarantee we will win more games with Shane as coach and Kyle as half back.

I'm not so sure myself..
One thing I am sure of is Reed Mahoney and Kik coming next year will improve our squad 10 fold.
The one thing I really want in a decent half-back.
We add a decent half-back to next year's quad and instantly we are a better team.

Then we can talk coaches.
If Barrett can't get a winning game plan with next year's squad including a top tier half-back, then yes he should be sacked.

But if you think adding the Flanagan coach and son as half-back will improanything, you are wrong. It's that simple.

 

[Spoonman84]

We’ve taken risks already with pay and Barrett as assistants and it’s flopped… it’s only right to take a punt on an experienced Flanagan

What NRL experience does he have recently?

 

[DinkumDog]

We’ve taken risks already with pay and Barrett as assistants and it’s flopped… it’s only right to take a punt on an experienced Flanagan

Barrett was a head coach prior to Penrith so by that rationale how can you say ‘assistants flopped’?

No, it’s not ‘right’ and why would you take a ‘punt’ on anyone? If we are to change coaches again (and I don’t think Baz will be sacked anytime soon) it must be a clearly defined move for very clear reasons, not just ‘that bloke won a comp 6 years ago’ - and doubly so when questions remain about ‘that blokes’ baggage.

 

[dogbone]

All I can say about Flanagan is he got the best out of his players. Look at what he did with Ennis and Barba for example. You go through his team and ask yourself how many of those players have played better under other coaches? He did a good job at the Sharks and built them steadily from a dour team into a premiership force. I'll put it this way, I don't want to see him end up at the Dragons or Tigers as I dislike them both and believe he would do a good job at either. He would also have a point to prove. Anyway I don't really like him to be honest and would love to see Barrett turn the club around. If he doesn't I don't see him ever getting a coaching job again at NRL level.

 

[DinkumDog]

What NRL experience does he have recently?

Assistant at St. Merge, yet the logic of @AlzzBulldog is to not hire any assistants. Go figure .

 

[craigo]

Barrett is clueless

 

[NPC83]

Assistant at St. Merge, yet the logic of @AlzzBulldog is to not hire any assistants. Go figure .

They are travelling about as good as us honestly mate just desperados that want Flanagan.

 

[From the area]

Can you guarantee we will win more games with Shane as coach and Kyle as half back.

I'm not so sure myself..
One thing I am sure of is Reed Mahoney and Kik coming next year will improve our squad 10 fold.
The one thing I really want in a decent half-back.
We add a decent half-back to next year's quad and instantly we are a better team.

Then we can talk coaches.
If Barrett can't get a winning game plan with next year's squad including a top tier half-back, then yes he should be sacked.

But if you think adding the Flanagan coach and son as half-back will improanything, you are wrong. It's that simple.

But can you guarantee it won’t make us better by adding Shane? I’m sure if Kyle is not performing he won’t stick with Kyle just cause. Shane as coach makes us instantly better. Training and plays. We will be a better squad for it. If we don’t get him then someon likebthebTigers will. Then we will be bottom feeders for a long time. We have no structur. No direction and a voiceless captain. So fucken over it.

 

[AlzzBulldog]

But can you guarantee it won’t make us better by adding Shane? I’m sure if Kyle is not performing he won’t stick with Kyle just cause. Shane as coach makes us instantly better. Training and plays. We will be a better squad for it. If we don’t get him then someon likebthebTigers will. Then we will be bottom feeders for a long time. We have no structur. No direction and a voiceless captain. So fucken over it.

Gus needs to be ruthless and make the big decisions right now.. it’s unacceptable to continue like this

 

[DogSince67]

What about Paul Green?

 

[DinkumDog]

Gus needs to be ruthless and make the big decisions right now.. it’s unacceptable to continue like this

Have you considered that it’s not 100% Gus’ decision? Why do you think his time at Penrith ended? Because he had a handshake deal with Bennett to coach but when he took it to the Panthers board he was out-voted as they wanted Cleary. His role was then untenable because he’d had Cleary sacked previously. The Bulldogs board would have to approve such a move and it also has to take into consideration Barrett’s payout among other things like optics. It’s not just ‘snap your fingers and change the coach’.

 

[GrogDog]

Blank cheque to Bellamy followed by Flanno Snr. Don't care about Flanno anymore, I welcome him to fill our guy's full of drugs!