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I wish the site had a "not sure" button, this could work and really, what have we got to lose?Would have to be Blake Ferguson to the Chooks.
They should have held him down and vacinated him live on tv, biggest oxygen theif ever.For once Mundine does something right.
He's a dick head but you shouldn't want to kill himThey should have held him down and vaccinated him live on tv, biggest oxygen thief ever.
Vaccine isn't going to kill him, I've had my first shot and am still alive. ???He's a dick head but you shouldn't want to kill him
What a joke is this. If Storm signed TPG or re-signed Finucane it would have been just as big news as it was for the Dogs or Sharks. When you look at the calibre of the signing they have made, they haven't gone about it quietly, in fact, they've gotten more press for this signing than most 25 year olds signing a minimum wage contract get.It’s typical of the way Melbourne Storm does business in signing little known players before developing them into outstanding footballers.
Yep but 50,000 Americans have died & 500,000 have had very serious side affects from it so there's that according to the CDC website & according to a Harvard study they (CDC) are recording between 1-10% of "adverse reactions" Something to think about when taking a "vaccine" that is still being trialled.Vaccine isn't going to kill him, I've had my first shot and am still alive. ???
I've had a shot I im still alive, i didn't want to, but eventually if you don't you won't be allowed anywhere and will end up umemployable, people who have so called recovered from virus still don't feel right 12 months later. For country to start up, not worth worrying about the slightest chance dying 6 in 1 million from vaccine, should worry more about getting the covid desease and spreading it. Some people need to take there aluminium foil hats off.Yep but 50,000 Americans have died & 500,000 have had very serious side affects from it so there's that according to the CDC website & according to a Harvard study they (CDC) are recording between 1-10% of "adverse reactions" Something to think about when taking a "vaccine" that is still being trialled.
So the CDC website & Harvard University are conspiracy theorists now? Why should I take it. 1 there has been 1 case where I am in a year. 2. I don't know any body who has had it & I don't know anybody who knows anybody who has had it in Australia. 3. The "vaccine" (if you want to call it that even though it doesn't fit the definition until a few weeks ago) is still in Emergency use only" mode. It has not been fully tested. 4. Why aren't they fully explaining & giving out information sheets on what the possible adverse affects can be? 5. Why did the inventor of this process say that it shouldn't have been used for this purpose? 6. There have been more adverse affects with this "vaccine" than all the other vaccines used in the World over the past 20 years. 7. The inventor of this procedure has said that it can take up to 6 months to fully see the affects of this "vaccine". 8. What do you say to the people who have died from the "vaccine" or are now permanently disabled because of the "vaccine". 8. Under the Nuremberg code it is illegal to force someone to take a vaccine when there are other effective treatments available & there are in this instance. 9. Why should I believe these leaders who tell us one thing & do another themselves? 10. Why should I believe these leaders who constantly lie to us & expect us to believe that this time they are telling the truth? 11. Virology 1.01 tells you that at the end of a virus' life, they are more infectious & less deadly like the current strain. 12. How can they possibly tell us what strain is what when the PCR test (according to the CDC https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/...-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html) cannot tell the difference between COVID & the normal flu which is why they are ending this test at the end of the year).I've had a shot I im still alive, i didn't want to, but eventually if you don't you won't be allowed anywhere and will end up umemployable, people who have so called recovered from virus still don't feel right 12 months later. For country to start up, not worth worrying about the slightest chance dying 6 in 1 million from vaccine, should worry more about getting the covid desease and spreading it. Some people need to take there aluminium foil hats off.
I understand what your saying, i only got it cause sooner or later it will be required for work. I had my first shot at 11am, at 9.30pm my head neck and chest felt like I was on fire, i was shivering jumped in bed fully clothed shaking thinking I was freezing, lucky wife made me cool down, day 2 bit light headed tired lethargic, day 3 same, 4th day not to bad. If your out of Sydney metro area I wouldn't want to get it either.But you would have to be careful it isn't passed onto someone in your town, which is hard to stop.So the CDC website & Harvard University are conspiracy theorists now? Why should I take it. 1 there has been 1 case where I am in a year. 2. I don't know any body who has had it & I don't know anybody who knows anybody who has had it in Australia. 3. The "vaccine" (if you want to call it that even though it doesn't fit the definition until a few weeks ago) is still in Emergency use only" mode. It has not been fully tested. 4. Why aren't they fully explaining & giving out information sheets on what the possible adverse affects can be? 5. Why did the inventor of this process say that it shouldn't have been used for this purpose? 6. There have been more adverse affects with this "vaccine" than all the other vaccines used in the World over the past 20 years. 7. The inventor of this procedure has said that it can take up to 6 months to fully see the affects of this "vaccine". 8. What do you say to the people who have died from the "vaccine" or are now permanently disabled because of the "vaccine". 8. Under the Nuremberg code it is illegal to force someone to take a vaccine when there are other effective treatments available & there are in this instance. 9. Why should I believe these leaders who tell us one thing & do another themselves? 10. Why should I believe these leaders who constantly lie to us & expect us to believe that this time they are telling the truth? 11. Virology 1.01 tells you that at the end of a virus' life, they are more infectious & less deadly like the current strain. 12. How can they possibly tell us what strain is what when the PCR test (according to the CDC https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/...-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html) cannot tell the difference between COVID & the normal flu which is why they are ending this test at the end of the year).
Please by all means convince me otherwise. The last time I took a flu vaccine I suffered the affects from it for more than 20 years so forgive me for being cautious.
The leaders all around the world had their own pandemic plans & threw them out the window as soon as things hit the fan. It has certainly shown who are leaders & who aren't. I don't think it's like the polio vaccine though, this one hasn't been fully tested yet for starters. They aren't taking into account people who have had it either so they shouldn't have to be vaccinated either. I had all the kids vaccines when I was young but still got measles, German measles & chicken pox. The latter at 25 & was hospitalised, so vaccines aren't necessarily a panacea.I understand what your saying, i only got it cause sooner or later it will be required for work. I had my first shot at 11am, at 9.30pm my head neck and chest felt like I was on fire, i was shivering jumped in bed fully clothed shaking thinking I was freezing, lucky wife made me cool down, day 2 bit light headed tired lethargic, day 3 same, 4th day not to bad. If your out of Sydney metro area I wouldn't want to get it either. But you would have to be careful it isn't passed onto someone in your town, which is hard to stop.
More of a worry are people that are immunocompromised. Sooner or later it will be in a child's immunization. Imagine if we all rejected getting polio vaccine, how would that go.
And no I don't like anything forced on me either.
You should have a choice.. everyones body is different & reacts differently..So the CDC website & Harvard University are conspiracy theorists now? Why should I take it. 1 there has been 1 case where I am in a year. 2. I don't know any body who has had it & I don't know anybody who knows anybody who has had it in Australia. 3. The "vaccine" (if you want to call it that even though it doesn't fit the definition until a few weeks ago) is still in Emergency use only" mode. It has not been fully tested. 4. Why aren't they fully explaining & giving out information sheets on what the possible adverse affects can be? 5. Why did the inventor of this process say that it shouldn't have been used for this purpose? 6. There have been more adverse affects with this "vaccine" than all the other vaccines used in the World over the past 20 years. 7. The inventor of this procedure has said that it can take up to 6 months to fully see the affects of this "vaccine". 8. What do you say to the people who have died from the "vaccine" or are now permanently disabled because of the "vaccine". 8. Under the Nuremberg code it is illegal to force someone to take a vaccine when there are other effective treatments available & there are in this instance. 9. Why should I believe these leaders who tell us one thing & do another themselves? 10. Why should I believe these leaders who constantly lie to us & expect us to believe that this time they are telling the truth? 11. Virology 1.01 tells you that at the end of a virus' life, they are more infectious & less deadly like the current strain. 12. How can they possibly tell us what strain is what when the PCR test (according to the CDC https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/...-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html) cannot tell the difference between COVID & the normal flu which is why they are ending this test at the end of the year).
Please by all means convince me otherwise. The last time I took a flu vaccine I suffered the affects from it for more than 20 years so forgive me for being cautious.
4.Why aren't they fully explaining & giving out information sheets on what the possible adverse affects can be?
I fully understand your nervousness and your opinion does matter, you know the old saying different strokes for different folks? That is true and no one should ever dismiss what you feel or think.7. The inventor of this procedure has said that it can take up to 6 months to fully see the affects of this "vaccine". 8. What do you say to the people who have died from the "vaccine" or are now permanently disabled because of the "vaccine".
For the moment, see how you feel after the second shot alters your DNA, there’s a very good reason that vaccines take over 10 years to properly formulate and you’ve just put something in your body that was developed in 12 months and is synthetic! Bloody fools letting the government injecting you with fuck knows what’s in it! Useful lemmings, all following one another of a cliff face led by the clown politicians lmfaoVaccine isn't going to kill him, I've had my first shot and am still alive. ???
Vaccinations can work, but they should be fully tested first. The people in power & the media have scared people silly over this COVID-19 which have a survivability rate of over 99%. The shutting down of treatments that work, like Ivermectin & Hydroxychloroquine that have proven more effective against COVID than the vaccine & with little or no side affects, is criminal. Also the shutting down of any speech with views differing from the people in power even from World renowned virologists & front line doctors is an utter disgrace.I fully understand your nervousness and your opinion does matter, you know the old saying different strokes for different folks? That is true and no one should ever dismiss what you feel or think.
No 4: Do you mean as in problems with the vaccine or the reaction itself to the actual jab?
If it is the second they give you a sheet with all the known side effects and if you are nervous can see your GP beforehand to voice any concerns and get a physical checkup as I did.
If it is the first, with a lot of medical interventions ALL side effects are not known until the vaccine or whatever has been in use for many years. Investigation and developing the vaccine used data and research from SARS in 2002 and MERS in 2012 on which there had been considerable work done , giving researchers a head start so has been in the pipeline for considerably longer than six months. I guess from the time it became apparent that there was an issue late 2019 and early 2020 the clock was ticking on development of something to combat the virus.
Imagine if the polio vaccine for example was pulled after this happened ( and this probably addresses your point s 7& 8) Hells bells I remember lining up for the polio jab at our local council chambers and I was scared silly. I would have been about 6 or 7 and the line in front of me snaked for seemed like miles....
The great polio vaccine mess and the lessons it holds about federal coordination for today's COVID-19 vaccination effort
Massive vaccine distribution efforts take a lot of coordination. The rollout of the Salk polio vaccine in the US in 1955 holds lessons for those delivering COVID-19 shots today.theconversation.com
I nervously fell into a long line of fellow first graders in the gymnasium of St. Louis’ Hamilton Elementary School in the spring of 1955. We were waiting for our first injection of the new polio vaccine.
The National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis – with money raised through its annual March of Dimes campaign – had sponsored field tests for a vaccine developed by Jonas Salk. The nonprofit had acquired sufficient doses to inoculate all the nation’s first and second graders through simultaneous rollouts administered at their elementary schools. The goal was to give 30 million shots over three months.
Now, more than six decades later, attention focuses on the rollout of two COVID-19 vaccines, following their emergency use authorization by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. States have begun to administer them in a rocky and frustratingly slow delivery process – while hundreds of thousands of new cases continue to be diagnosed daily in the U.S.
While not necessarily comforting, it is useful to recognize that the early days and weeks of mass distribution of a new medication, particularly one that is intended to address a fearful epidemic, are bound to be frustrating. Only after examining the complex polio vaccine distribution process as documented in papers collected in the Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library did I come to understand how partial my childhood memories actually were.
Vaccine distribution, 65 years ago
After I received my polio shot, I remember my parents’ relief.
The polio virus causes flu-like symptoms in most people who catch it. But in a minority of those infected, the brain and spinal cord are affected; polio can cause paralysis and even death. With the distribution of Salk’s vaccine, the much-feared stalker of children and young adults had seemingly been tamed. Within days, however, the initial mass inoculation program went off the rails.
The world initially rejoiced as Salk’s vaccine came online. He declined to patent it, to make it available to all. PhotoQues/Archive Photos via Getty Images
Immediately following the government’s licensing of the Salk vaccine, the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis contracted with private drug companies for US$9 million worth of vaccine (around $87 million today) – about 90% of the stock. They planned to provide it free to the country’s first and second graders. But just two weeks after the first doses were administered, the Public Health Service reported that six inoculated children had come down with polio.
As the number of such incidents grew, it became clear that some of the shots were causing the disease they were meant to prevent. A single lab had inadvertently released adulterated doses.
After considerable fumbling and outright denial, Surgeon General Leonard Steele first pulled all tainted vaccine off the market. Then, less than a month after the initial inoculations, the U.S. shut down distribution entirely. It wasn’t until the introduction of a new polio vaccine in 1960, created by Albert Sabin, that public trust returned.
History’s lessons for 2021
This story offers several lessons relevant to the COVID-19 vaccine distribution just now getting rolling.
First, federal coordination of an emergent lifesaving medical product is critical.
The federal government had declined to play an active oversight and coordination role for the polio vaccine, but still wanted the credit. The federal Department of Health, Education and Welfare (now Health and Human Services) offered no plan for distribution beyond the privately funded school-based program.
The department waited a full month after the vaccine was first administered before bringing together a permanent scientific clearance panel. That delay had less to do with formal procedures than with the ideological opposition of Health, Education and Welfare Secretary Oveta Culp Hobby.
Hobby was a political appointee who had taken office just months before the vaccine was approved. Her reluctance to involve the federal government in matters that she believed were best left in private hands – and her oft-stated fear of “socialized medicine” – meant that safety checks would be left to the private labs producing the vaccine. The results immediately caused dire problems and even avoidable deaths.
Second, the polio vaccine distribution process demonstrated how vital it is for the federal government to act in ways deserving of public trust.
In those hopeful first few weeks of the polio vaccine distribution, those of us lining up for shots had little to fear beyond the sting of an injection. That changed quickly.
Once some children had in fact been harmed by the shot, obfuscation by government officials, clumsy explanations and delayed responses engulfed the entire production and distribution process in confusion and suspicion. Trust in the government and the vaccine eroded accordingly. Gallup polls found that by June 1955, almost half of the parents who responded said they would not take any further vaccine shots – and the full regimen of polio inoculation required three doses. In 1958, some drug companies halted production, citing “public apathy.” It wasn’t surprising to see a startling upsurge in polio in 1959, doubling cases from the previous year.
Today, with COVID-19 already highly politicized – polls suggest that a minority of Americans will decline to take any vaccine – it is critical to administer an effective vaccine delivery program in a manner that builds trust rather than undermines it.
Scattered reports of allergic reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine have generated not the denials of the Eisenhower administration but rather honest and realistic responses from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Particularly for vaccines that require multiple inoculations – both Pfizer and Moderna vaccines require two shots administered with a 21- or 28-day gap – mass inoculations will require not just an initial willingness to get the first dose but the maintenance of trust sufficient to get people back for the follow up.
There are significant differences in the social-political contexts of the era in which the polio vaccine was distributed and today, including the nature and threat of the two diseases and the technologies of the vaccines. But time and again, the COVID-19 pandemic has revealed disconcerting parallels with mistakes made in the past. The good news is vaccination works – no case of polio has originated in the U.S. since 1979.