Daily Telegraph/Rothfield Holbrook, Hill and Coach Consolidated Mega Thread

Noeasyday

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It wasn't an accident and I didn't leave out any players, the list was simply of young players with limited NRL experience, it was not supposed to be a list of every one of our players. The NRL graphs served that purpose, that's why I included them.

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I agree, it wasn't an accident.
You tried to convey your theory that we have a young and inexperienced forward pack by deliberately leaving out the players which were mentioned by Wendog, to ensure your stats validated your argument.
I do recall a post by someone saying how they look at data sets to form their opinion in another thread. Now, I hope that wasn't you, because if it is and this is an example of your data sets to form opinion then I hold grave concerns for your future.
 

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I think I'm a little different (not many would argue with that) from some who post on TK, I actually look at all of the data first and then arrive at a conclusion. Many arrive at a conclusion first and then go looking for data to support it, whilst ignoring the data that doesn't support it. That's how it comes about that when my view is questioned I generally have data to support how I arrived at that conclusion. Whether I am right or wrong doesn't concern me as much as being able to substantiate my views. Let's face it, most of what we waffle on about on TK is purely subjective anyway.

I'm good, but please feel free to ask anytime.

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Oh no...
 

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I agree, it wasn't an accident.
You tried to convey your theory that we have a young and inexperienced forward pack by deliberately leaving out the players which were mentioned by Wendog, to ensure your stats validated your argument.
I do recall a post by someone saying how they look at data sets to form their opinion in another thread. Now, I hope that wasn't you, because if it is and this is an example of your data sets to form opinion then I hold grave concerns for your future.
I think you need to go back and reread the thread flow, I was simply pointing out the younger inexperienced players. To achieve that I did not need to point out every player. As I said above by posting NRL graphs I achieve that, my list had an average age of just under 23 and the NRL list had an average of age of just under 23. You may well have had a point if there was large discrepancy between my list and the official NRL list but there isn't, so you don't.


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The point is our forward roster (of forwards who have fg experience and used by Pay are no younger or less experienced than at least 8 teams above us on the ladder). Which was my contention.
 

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The point is our forward roster (of forwards who have fg experience and used by Pay are no younger or less experienced than at least 8 teams above us on the ladder). Which was my contention
I bothered to take the time and post the numbers and graphs that support my view, that we do have the youngest and least experienced. By all means disagree, that's your right of course, but if you want to stick to your view then you really need to substantiate it with some data.

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Can anyone provide a list of our top 30 signed or re-signed by Pay???
According to our club:

TOP 30:
Adam Elliott, Aiden Tolman, Brandon Wakeham, Chris Smith, Christian Crichton, Corey Harawira-Naera, Danny Fualalo, Dylan Napa, Fa'amanu Brown, Francis Tualau, Jack Cogger, Jayden Okunbor, Jeremy Marshall-King, John Olive, Josh Jackson, Kerrod Holland, Kieran Foran, Lachlan Lewis, Marcelo Montoya, Michael Lichaa, Nick Meaney, Ofahiki Ogden, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Reimis Smith, Renouf To'omaga, Rhyse Martin, Sauaso Sue, Will Hopoate, Zac Saddler

DEVELOPMENT PLAYERS:
Tui Katoa, Morgan Harper, James Roumanos, Jarred Anderson

Since the above:
OUT:
Francis Tualau (mid season release).
Zac Saddler (mid season release).
Rhyse Martin (mid season release).
Jarred Anderson (mid season release).

IN:
DWZ
Morgan Harper > promoted to Top 30.
Kayne Kalache > promoted to Top 30.
James Roumanos > promoted to Top 30.
Isaiah Tass > Development Squad.
Conelly Leumelu > Development Squad.
 
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Can anyone provide a list of our top 30 signed or re-signed by Pay???
According to our club:

TOP 30:
Adam Elliott, Aiden Tolman, Brandon Wakeham, Chris Smith, Christian Crichton, Corey Harawira-Naera, Danny Fualalo, Dylan Napa, Fa'amanu Brown, Francis Tualau, Jack Cogger, Jayden Okunbor, Jeremy Marshall-King, John Olive, Josh Jackson, Kerrod Holland, Kieran Foran, Lachlan Lewis, Marcelo Montoya, Michael Lichaa, Nick Meaney, Ofahiki Ogden, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Reimis Smith, Renouf To'omaga, Rhyse Martin, Sauaso Sue, Will Hopoate, Zac Saddler

DEVELOPMENT PLAYERS:
Tui Katoa, Morgan Harper, James Roumanos, Jarred Anderson

Since the above:
OUT:
Francis Tualau (mid season release).
Zac Saddler (mid season release).
Rhyse Martin (mid season release).
Jarred Anderson (mid season release).

IN:
DWZ
Morgan Harper > promoted to Top 30.
Kayne Kalache > promoted to Top 30.
James Roumanos > promoted to Top 30.
Isaiah Tass > Development Squad.
Conelly Leumelu > Development Squad.
Roumanos is now part of the top 30, with Rhyse Martins' departure.

Also, Zac Saddler is gone, replaced by DWZ.
 

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I bothered to take the time and post the numbers and graphs that support my view, that we do have the youngest and least experienced. By all means disagree, that's your right of course, but if you want to stick to your view then you really need to substantiate it with some data.

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Des is that you?
 

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I bothered to take the time and post the numbers and graphs that support my view, that we do have the youngest and least experienced. By all means disagree, that's your right of course, but if you want to stick to your view then you really need to substantiate it with some data.

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Once again, your data was skewed because of who you excluded, presumably so your view could be substantiated.
 

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Just on NRL 360 then they said St Helens CEO is heading to Australia next week to search for a new coach as they are resigned to the fact Holbrook is gone. Holbrook is on the shortlist at the Titans but if we replace Pay then Holbrook is our only target.

Reading between the lines I think Holbrook is going to be at the Dogs next year.
 
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